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I think to start things off, I want to implore you to please avoid spam in the thread, and at all costs, DONT LURK. Ima bit traumatized frm nuclear mafia Also, I would like everyone to comment on this QT mechanic, and how it should be used. To answer my own question, I am of the view that the QTs should be as active as possible. Each person in the QT should gauge the reaction of their buddy and try to compare the general posting on the thread and on the QT. Its another source of information that should be used. HOWEVER, the good posts and analysis should be in the thread, where everyone can view the info. Im sure scum would much rather hide behind the QTs instead of posting out in the open, so lets try to avoid that. For clarity: Random thoughts, fluff, and other stuff = QT Cases, relevant analysis, poking and prodding = thread Thoughts/comments? | ||
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I think there is no point to the QTs if we treat people there as we would treat people here. Anonymity is much more comfortable for scum to post in because they cannot be held liable for their posts. IMO this is quite agreeable. Can you explain what you mean by "only revealing when you have dirt on them"? Do you find this to be a valid plan? @shiaoPi I disagree with you. Having someone to polish their cases with before posting it out in the open is better for scum, because it will be harder for everyone else to fish out lies and inconsistencies that would be present in the original case. However, I think discussions regarding certain people should take place before making a case, but not to the point where theh case will come from two people instead of one. Am I being clear about my meaning? What do you think? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am here. ShiaoPi what the hell? Why did you claim vt? Also everyone shoud be sharing their identity in mason QT's, the people who don't should be killed. If your mason partner does not share their identity kill them. There is no reason not to share that information. How do you think the QT should be used effectively? What do you think of my thoughts in the other post? | ||
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You seem a little disgruntled that ShiaoPi claimed VT. Why the negative reaction? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:09 FirmTofu wrote: Nono, you didn't understand what I said. I'm asking do you think we should tell the thread who our QT partners are? Oh. No, I disagree. I think that the information associated with the timing of future mason claims is relevant. TBH, I dont see the point at all to announce your partners for no reason at this stage of the game. What say you? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: The game has just started. I think the QT's at this point should be used to figure out your mason partner's alignment. Subject to change later on. You mean this post? I think there should be no random thoughts & fluff. Why do you? Also what do you mean by other stuff? At this point all analysis should be on thread. There is no reason to be not transparent. I added "fluff" in there so as to mean that there wont be fluff in the thread. But yea, the less fluff the better. Random thoughts = related to the game, but that would be disruptive in the thread. Other stuff = masterful game-ending plans to dish out scum  I agree 100% that transparency is best for now, so Im glad that on this regard we are on the same page. | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because the claim is either stupid or scum. Its a pointless claim no matter what alignment he is. However, I dislike the fact that he just waltzed into the thread with that pointless post and has not posted anything since... | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:34 Sylencia wrote: What's wrong with the part where someone from the QT posting cases made after it's been proven/given up on? As long as we still show the cases that were made, they can't hide behind anything Theres a difference between one person reading a case and 11. While one person may not find anything noteworthy in a case, some other townie might. Cases should go in thread first. | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: What do you think of Sylencia? Well, theres only like two pages of content, so theres not really much I can say. He's a little slow with the posts, but thats not alignment indicative. Anything caught your attention? | ||
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On July 24 2013 15:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my point. There is no reason he should do that as town whether or not he actually is a vt. Theres no reason he should do that as scum either. I wouldnt care for that at all if he had contributed in some more useful manner later on. Is the claim solely the biggest issue you have with shiaopi? | ||
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Glad that you are active now, and also glad you pressed on the point about rayns suspicions on you that I raised earlier. I'm curious though, you seemed pretty confident that he was scum earlier in some of your posts. On July 24 2013 22:03 ShiaoPi wrote: @rayn: We can agree to disagree on the interpretation of your posts. Still you and FirmTofu were the only persons to really react in a suspicious manner to the claim so that is the point where I am standing. Who is your lynch-choice now that you have unvoted? This post seemed a ton less aggressive. Do you still think rayn is scum? @Malongo On July 24 2013 20:29 Malongo wrote: I meant that he looks more mafioso. The way he presented his suppositions were far more suspicious than a player claiming vet day1. My first thought was that the mason pairing was random and I didnt even realize that mafia doesnt need to mason, but he went all the way a step further: he thought what was actually "good" for the mafia (1 on 1 pairings). I'd really like you to elaborate on lazermonkey, I'm not following you... are you suspicious of him because you disagree with him on the mason pairing bit? | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:24 Rainbows wrote: Can someone meta me on Dandel? Is he always like this? Z-BosoN says generic pro-town stuff, passively finger-points then goes to bed. Rainbows no like. lol, you are doing the same exact thing nay? Anyways On July 25 2013 02:52 Rainbows wrote: Important I propose that we use the mason-killing ability as a double-lynch mechanic during the day. If we have two targets that are highly suspect, the person masoned with one can kill them off so we know the flip prior to lynching. This will influence the lynch for that day. That said, I do not think we should use this pseudo double-lynch day 1. Any thoughts? I actually think this is a good idea. If Malangos kill doesn't click, we use this mechanic as a double lynch, with town votes (probably during the night phase). I also agree that it should be used later on, when there is more information on the thread, so I second this post. On July 25 2013 02:33 Rainbows wrote: I generally don't like the Tofu wagon atm. Rayn was way more vocal about the VT claim than Tofu was, I find it strange that everybody wagoned onto Tofu instead. Here you show that you feel that Tofu's wagon is not warranted using the VT claim as an argument, because rayn was more vocal about it. Do you think rayn is more suspicious? What do you think of the SHiaopi/rayn interchange? | ||
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Let's just leave the mason-kill as a vigi-shot and move on? | ||
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Here he posts asking about anonymity, demonstrating an interest in discussing such aspects of the QT mechanic. On July 24 2013 13:17 Sylencia wrote: Firm, thoughts about anonymity in the qts? However, later on, when there was some discussion about whether or not it is worth it to mass claim the mason partners, he blatantly tells us his own: On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote: Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. Explain thx. Also, Artanis is my current partner (don't think he mentioned it) This is very inconsistent, and in my experience is much more likely to come from scum. Add to that the zero amount of scumhunting he has done. All his talk is related to game mechanics, which is very easy and comfortable for scum to talk in. Thoughts? | ||
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 @Lazermonkey Fuck yea. tell me more about sylencia | ||
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On July 25 2013 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote: Hmyhea, Sylencia looks bad. No scum hunting at all. Sadely he is somewhat of a lynch bait. I managed to get him killed D1 once as scum : /. But he really need to step up his posting. I see. How would you compare his playstyle/activity in that game and in this one? | ||
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Do you have anything you want to contribute? So far you've done nothing except bury your vote on Malango. Who do you find suspicious at this start of the game? | ||
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On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. Can you elaborate your town read on Shiao? Also, I don't think three votes can hardly be considered a "wagon". I don't like how you back off a bit on your "first suspect" because of a 3-man wagon with 33 hours left to deadline... also, it was Firm that firstly expressed distaste in the vt claim, not rayn: Tell me more about rayne/tofu. | ||
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On July 25 2013 04:37 Koshi wrote: raynpelikoneet 1) Hard defening the Kenpachi claim from ShiaoPi. To a point he Rayn votes #ShiaoPi 2) After backing off from ShiaoPi, Rayn thinks FirmTofy is scummy for the reason he was discussing with ShiaoPi. (Kenpachi rule) 3) Getting "killed" by Malongo but not finding it strange that a town player would kill somebody out of the blue. (No pressure from Rayn to Malongo) 4) Leaving the thread with pointing fingers at Sylencia, who I don't find suspicious at all. (Unless Sylencia is a vet and normally finds scum within 12 hours) Malongo Killing somebody out of the blue, but then backing off because it was rayn? What's that all about. lol, did you slip? Why did you call Malong a town player if you think he's scum? | ||
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Why are you dodging my question?? Here it is for you again: On July 25 2013 04:38 Z-BosoN wrote: @Artanis Can you elaborate your town read on Shiao? Also, I don't think three votes can hardly be considered a "wagon". I don't like how you back off a bit on your "first suspect" because of a 3-man wagon with 33 hours left to deadline... also, it was Firm that firstly expressed distaste in the vt claim, not rayn: Tell me more about rayne/tofu. | ||
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On July 25 2013 02:24 Rainbows wrote: Can someone meta me on Dandel? Is he always like this? Z-BosoN says generic pro-town stuff, passively finger-points then goes to bed. Rainbows no like. Up to this point, you have not said anything else about me nor sought to pursue a person you "didn't like". I really dislike the lack of follow up to this post. Am I scum? Besides Artanis, who do you want to lynch? | ||
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On July 25 2013 04:06 Lazermonkey wrote: Hmyhea, Sylencia looks bad. No scum hunting at all. Sadely he is somewhat of a lynch bait. I managed to get him killed D1 once as scum : /. But he really need to step up his posting. And thus your vote was on stutters, because he was less of a lynch bait: On July 25 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm getting tired of this... Half of the game this far is almost entierly useless setup speculation. Sure, FT is looking bad but he is AFK right now. Stutters has 1(!) post where he scum hunts. The rest is setup talk, policy talk, defending some dudes when they were in no danger of getting lynched. And his only post worth of scum hunting is bad. I tell him to talk about something else and he continues to talk policy. My guess is that he is trying to appear contributing. He is also avoiding all conflicts by never taking arguement with anyone. ##unvote ##vote: stutters Everyone else, give your opinion on stutters please! And then you had an exchange with sylencia and now you feel he's scum, and stutters is of no interest to you anymore. But you don't want to push sylencia's lynch, saying that you think the lynch will be between FT and Artanis. Can you be specific as to why you changed your mind on stutters and can you take a stance on sylencia? You are being incredibly wishy-washy on him. | ||
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On July 26 2013 05:44 Rainbows wrote: It was suposed to be ironic. The only thing I can say about you so far is that you are playing clean. So clean that it looks too good. Im not sure if that makes sense but you're not saying stupid shit which seems deliberatly cobstructed. Unfortunetly its just a feel. Ah ok, well, I don't want to be lynched neither as townie nor as scum, so for the most part I don't post whatever the fuck comes to mind anymore (even though I used to) Can you answer the second part, on who else would you lynch besides artanis? | ||
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On July 26 2013 05:45 Lazermonkey wrote: What? You got it all wrong... I never dropped my stutters scum read Lol. Reread my filter. I'm still somewhat suspicious of Sylencia but I'm willing to give him BOTD because he is generally a lynch bait + ShiaoPi says he plays better later on. Aight. Checking artanis now | ||
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Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out. He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum. Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread. Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, he did just stick out his neck for me. Look, he stuck his neck out again! and for me! I hope you are my date tomorrow  | ||
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First of all, lynching active people day one is stupid. On the offchance that they are town, it will massively fuck up the end game. Thus, I want town to fuck off concerning these players: Lazermonkey Rainbow ShiaoPi (I'm surprised he's active, he's genrally lurky in d1) rayn That being said, here are the people I do not want to lynch because of the town vibes: Artanis (see end of page 25) Stutters (see end of this post) This leaves: Sylencia Malango Koshi FirmTofu Dandel Ion ... so who, Z-BosoN? Who? WHO??!?!?!?! 1- Dandel Dandel had some activity earlier but had to leave. Right now, he's very self-confident of his meta: On July 25 2013 03:57 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm already hard-confirmed town just based on my meta. Deal with it. But I do want to make zboson dead too. So you think it's only about the kenpachi? eyo When there is stuff, there is always stuff, you see. Some stuff is stuffier than other stuff but it's never alone. Unless it's not there, you see, but if it's not there it can't be alone either because it's not even there, you see. Artanis is also scum. And then: On July 25 2013 05:14 Dandel Ion wrote: ull notice the difference when u dont have to harddefend me (thx btw) because i wont even be up for lynch because im such an amazing work of art. my beauty knows no limits. He continued posting after these posts I quoted with, and actually changed his vote due to the fact he had to leave, last thing he did. This suggests that he's uncertain regarding his vote, despite wanting to appear confident. I view this as a townie trait, as I think a meta-aware scum dandel would most likely insist on his read. Not a strong tell, but I don't want to lynch him. 2- Stutters, right now I'm really not digging his lynch. I've played with him quite a few times before and he's always quiet but makes the occasional decent post. He's also quite non-chalant. I pressured him with concerns on the fact that he only had Malango as a scum read and nothing else, and he replied with: On July 25 2013 05:29 Stutters695 wrote: I think Mal is the best lynch currently. Not really sure otherwise. Again, not the town read of my dreams, but I want him spared. 3- FirmTofu He's my mason buddy and he is adorable, but to be honest, I feel he has a good chance of being scum. Main post that caught my attention was this: On July 26 2013 02:33 FirmTofu wrote: Probably Artanis/Malongo/Sylencia. I want to hear more from Z-Boson and Stutters who haven't contributed much yet. I'm null on Lazermonkey and Koshi. Everyone else I'm leaning town. I have been more active than him, and FAR more active than stutters. This is a sign that he's not really reading the thread. And is not really interested. Also, he had this to say in the QT: ..Probably going to sleep soon, so I may not respond for a while. I like your initial posts. I agree with you about how we should play the game going forward. Which isn't in direct contradiction with complaining about my activity, but is a slightly different tone than what I'd expect. I strongly agree that he's someone who should be looked at, but given that he's a capable player and that in nuclear mafia he really picked up activity in day 2 or day 3, I feel he's a bad lynch choice for today. He's also much more active than: 4- Malango Initially I thought the same as ShiaoPi: On July 26 2013 01:36 ShiaoPi wrote: ebwop: elaborating on malongo, what I don't believe is that scum would do such a move (publicly announcing the shot, more or less to his QT partner). It gains waaay too much attention too early in this game. why not just kill him and try explaining afterwards? On the more scummy side of malongo things we also have that "threat" thing he posted in the QT. I really did not like that. Actually I would probably be fine lynching him too (now that I am thinking more about him), but still FT sits better with me. Probably something along the lines of lynch these guys: FT -> Rayn->Rainbows/Malongo But his latest post here was absolute shit. I feel like policy lynching him because he's dead anti-town weight to the endgame, as he proved it twice. He will likely be my vote. 5 - Sylencia Really hate his play, "lynch bait" notwithstanding. Must look at filter more carefully. 6 - Koshi He's mostly here by exclusion. There's the "slip" I noted earlier but that needs to be put in contrast with the rest of his play. TBH I need to look at his filter more carefully as well. I've been very clear here and hopefully people can find this agreeable. Right now I'm interested to hear Lazermonkey respond, as it seems I gave his two top scumreads semi-town reads rofl | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote: Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless. You know your stuff, dear rayn. How do you feel about Malongo after reading my post? Killing someone who is clearly anti-town who has a decent chance of being scum is excellent. I want to propose that if Malongo doesn't show up until deadline with anything useful, we murder him. Reasons above ^^^^^^ | ||
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On July 26 2013 06:47 Koshi wrote: 1. Z-BosoN I don't want to lynch this guy, looks town to me because he didn't tunnel me after my "scumslip". I think scum would put more pressure on me after that. 2. Malongo My current number 1 lynch target. Can we let rayn masonkill him? 3. Stutters695 Really focusing a lot on Malongo. The Stutters in Nuclear didn't do that. I could see him being scum. 4. Artanis[Xp] Came out to play after trolling. yay. Can't be serious about lynching Lazer right? 5. Dandel Ion He looks like he tries to figure out the game between the trolling. 6. Raynpelikoneet I don't like you this game rayn. All the rambling about the Kenpachi rule and then saying FT is scum for that reason. I am somewhat surprised you are not killing Malongo. Why are you so afraid? 7. ShiaoPi Looks like a good addition to town. Kept his cool when I was being a drama queen. I like. 8. Rainbows Rainbows are magic. I loved our policy, we had a moment there. Wouldn't lynch. 9. Koshi Yeah... This guy is not looking too good. lynching him will make town disappointed. But not too disappointed. 10. FirmTofu Looks town. Speaks his mind. Want to see more on Day 2. 11. Lazermonkey Superactive. Agressive. Controlling. Never lynch, never surrender. 12. Sylencia I don't understand why people want to lynch lazer. Do not understand. Koshi, can you comment more on FirmTofu, especially given my last big post? | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote: There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me. Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier? Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it? | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote: Z-boson, you think Koshi and Malango are scum because their play is very bad for town. I can agree with this in some ways. However, a big part of my problems with both Koshi and Malango being scum is that their play is really bonkers if they are scum. Try to analyze their actions from scum PoV and not only town PoV and see if you see what I see! No, I think Malongo's play is very bad for town, and I haven't read koshi's filter yet. Like I said, I originially thought Malongo's play to be weird-as-fuck to make from a scum POV. However, remember Chezinu from nuclear mafia? Nuking MZ,a townie looking dude, for little reason? I thought that same thing, and disregarded any anti-town play coming up from chezinu. You can't base too much off of one action. What I do know is that Malongo's play is 100% anti-town, and thus town will benefit from killing him, regardless of his alignment. And who knows, he might actually flip scum. Think gumshoe from Nuclear, WIFOM ninja-voting. I do not regret that lynch. Same logic imo. I've played in a game once where it ended up with grush and BillMurray (two vets who are pretty trolly and useless) in the endgame, with DarthPunk as scum. It was sad to see town ignore an uncounterclaimed cop's reads leading to the endgame and then losing, despite the game already been solved. Don't you agree, ShiaoPi? (he was the cop) Anyways, my point is that D1 is likely a mislynch, so lets mislynch someone who we know is bad for town. This will be the case unless Malongo decides to post and contribute with anything useful. | ||
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On July 26 2013 07:47 Koshi wrote: Contradicting yourself is something you easily do as town when you don't have clear reads. First you think somebody is scummy, then he makes a couple good posts and suddenly you are a town read. Overall I do like FT his filter. @rayn. Put your vote on me if you like. Why are you so scared? Put it down and stop soft pointing at me. That's not the main point I want you to respond to. He's not contradicting himself. It's hints that he is not reading the thread and the changes of tonality in his views on me. | ||
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On July 26 2013 08:04 Lazermonkey wrote: I can think of several diferent reasons but I don't think it matters too much, I can't speak for Artanis. No I still really dislike him. And I find it even more interesting that he goes away RIGHT when swaped over to Artanis. Also, think of this: Look at stutters filter and take note of his recent activity. He is really arguing HARD with me. he says I'm really scummy and that he is really considering voting me. But WHERE is his vote? on Malango, and it still is? but what does he do with it? Jack shit. And then he just leaves it there. Stutters is not interested in finding scum. Actually, I think I can kill stutters instead. Someone else wantie? You're gonna have to be much more specific than that dude on him. It sounds more like you are angry at him rather than you think he's scum. All you said here is he is arguing hard against you, and yet his vote is not on you. I think you should be looking at the quality of his arguments. Do you agree with them? Are they logical or is he bullshitting? Stutters lurks as town and is very low on activity, normally, with the occasional good post. IMO his points against you don't look too bad, but I want to see if you think the same or not | ||
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On July 26 2013 08:09 Koshi wrote: So. No clear lynch target? Got to go to bed now D: Think I will leave my vote on Artanis. Came out to play only once, and he did so by attacking Lazer, meh, I don't like it. Wtf?? This post of yours came AFTER he attacked lazer: On July 26 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote: Agreed. I like it that Artanis came out to play. So much more fun. So. Let's find another target. I think I will be petty and look at rayn and Malongo for repeatedly trying to shift focus to me. Not that I can blame them, I am looking pretty bad. I still got a bad feeling about that whole shooting/not shooting thingie. Are you scared to push your own reads or something? | ||
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On July 26 2013 08:16 Lazermonkey wrote: Hmm, well I feel like going to bed as well : (. But because I am a man I will try to get up at 5:00am and play Lol. To all of you left, remember to consolidate!!! I cannot stress how important this is! The more we split our votes the more influnce you give scum votes. And if you are voting for someone who is not one of the main candidates you are indirectly voting the one who got the most votes. So do consolidate, even if it means you have to vote a lesser scum read. My lynch priority as for now! 1.Artanis 2.Stutters. 3.FT 4.Sylencia Ugh, it won't help town consolidate if we don't reach a consensus on artanis/stutters/malongo >.< | ||
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On July 26 2013 08:22 Koshi wrote: Z-Boson. I do not understand what you want from me. I didn't like Artanis his lurking/trolling. When he did come back I started to look for better targets but I can't find one. I could go for a Malongo lynch. If Lazer and you agree within 5 mins I will change. Otherwise it stays on Artanis. What I don't understand from you is your play. When I defended Artanis, you agreed and were happy that artanis came out to play, and that you wanted to switch your vote, even when he went for lazer. Now, without contributing to the artanis discussion me and lazer are having, you say you are fine with artanis (when earlier you wanted to switch from him) and you gave your reasoning based on the fact that he went for razer, when he had already done that when you expressed your intention to switch targets!!. You state you have two other reads you are contemplating of switching to, but then you don't push, don't enter the merit of discussion, and leave your vote on artanis. Your play makes zero sense. | ||
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On July 26 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: Ok, this doesn't look like you telling me to go for Malongo so I am sticking with Artanis. Um, does this look like I want you to go for malongo?? On July 26 2013 07:39 Z-BosoN wrote: You know your stuff, dear rayn. How do you feel about Malongo after reading my post? Killing someone who is clearly anti-town who has a decent chance of being scum is excellent. I want to propose that if Malongo doesn't show up until deadline with anything useful, we murder him. Reasons above ^^^^^^ And why are you waiting for people you supposedly don't know the alignment of to tell you who to vote. If you are town, your play is awful :/ Sigh | ||
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On July 26 2013 08:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Koshi Says he likes that I'm posting, wants to leave a vote on me anyway as BosoN said. That, and Lazer isn't getting lynched. I've already said why I'm not posting much right now. I see BosoN as pretty much confirmed town after defending me when I was such an easy lynch so I'm just gonna go follow his lead, and I like the reasoning. Nah, not sure I'd like koshi dead today. His play is abysmal, but I don't think it's mafia-oriented. He seems insecure as fuck and his reaction to my pressure here is a whole other ball game. Malongo is the way to go ##Vote Malongo | ||
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Artanis will be a mislynch. | ||
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Shiao, read this, part on Malango: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422180¤tpage=26#518 THen this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422180¤tpage=27#529 And tell me why you don't approve this lynch. His latest post all but confirms he doesn't give a shit... | ||
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Right now I'm super satisfied with malango | ||
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On July 26 2013 12:28 Lazermonkey wrote: And not giving a shit is indicative of what alignment, Z-boson? Does scum not want to stay alive at this point or what? Sylencia's last post is really bad though not necesarily scum motivated at all... He could have scumhunted, he could have given his reads. I stated that I would keep my vote on him until he actually contributed and he didn't do shit. If he's town, he's not playing to his meta. | ||
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On July 26 2013 12:31 Z-BosoN wrote: He could have scumhunted, he could have given his reads. I stated that I would keep my vote on him until he actually contributed and he didn't do shit. If he's town, he's not playing to his meta. Meta = interest of town he's being deliberately antitown | ||
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On July 26 2013 12:34 Lazermonkey wrote: But that's not really relevant though. Is he playing to his scum meta is what is relevant... Why do you keep going on about this I already justified that he's 100% anti-town. Him dead = good for town As an added bonus, he has a fair chance of popping up as scum, given his last post. If he were town I'm sure he'd use his remaining 3 hours on earth trying to help out. | ||
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On July 26 2013 12:38 ShiaoPi wrote: well if boson is happy with his lynchvote we cannot do anything to change the lynch. There are 6 Votes on Malongo and not enough people active. I am happy with the lynch, but if all three of you consolidate I will switch with you guys so long as you choose a decent target (Rayne, for instance, is a horrible target for d1) | ||
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On July 26 2013 12:50 Rainbows wrote: If he flips town I will never forgive you, ever in life. But Dandel did the same thing I fail to see the difference. you talking about tofu or malango? | ||
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I'll laugh at you all if Malango is scum | ||
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Yea yea I'm not killing him | ||
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On July 26 2013 13:02 Lazermonkey wrote: All bow before your leader... With that being said, I'm going to sleep once again. GJ dude :D | ||
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Have to think more about rainbows and koshi | ||
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I'll try to come up with some reads before I leave | ||
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 GG and nice bluff | ||
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On July 27 2013 05:08 Lazermonkey wrote: GG Boson, I didn't actually think you were scum. You played like a boss, gj | ||
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On July 27 2013 05:14 Lazermonkey wrote: The thing is, Sylencia really just won us the game with that shot. Had it not gone off, it would just have been the standard D1 misslynch with a bunch of guys looking semi bad. But with this shot, Rayn was really, truly fucked for example. And Z-Boson went from one of the guys no one had suspected to the guy who was quite suspicous. Pretty much this | ||
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raynpelikoneet 07-26-2013 04:32 PM ET (US) What is the chat log? Did you give up? 44 Z-BosoN 07-26-2013 11:51 AM ET (US) After a refreshing sleep the best thing I can come up with is: you need to look townie and try to avoid getting lynched I will bus you and try to recover some cred Then I'll have to win alone in the late game 43 Z-BosoN 07-26-2013 12:10 AM ET (US) Now I'm definitely gonna get fucked sideways 42 Z-BosoN 07-26-2013 12:08 AM ET (US) Sylencia the great lynch bait is now town. Lazer is confirmed town, as is Rain. Koshi will be near-confirmed town. Fucking hell. All that would have been avoided if Artanis didn't get shot. Sigh. Fuck. I shouldn't have put so much effort in this game, such a waste of time. /EndOfWhine GG artanis! Stutters you still want to try man? I'm feeling completely demotivated now 41 Z-BosoN 07-26-2013 12:01 AM ET (US) and................................... we are fucked. GG 40 Z-BosoN 07-25-2013 08:19 PM ET (US) LOL. Whatever the outcome, this will be very funny in the post game 39 raynpelikoneet 07-25-2013 08:15 PM ET (US) rofl this strategy is awesome ^^ 38 Z-BosoN 07-25-2013 08:01 PM ET (US) that play doesn't always work out, it depends on who you play against. Once you flip scum, I will inherently look bad, and my actions will be heavy mafia-favored. The only thing that can save me is if they decide I was just a dumb townie. However, I think I'm making th emistake of sounding too confident. Let's hope that doesn't bite me later on 37 ArtanisPerson was signed in when posted 07-25-2013 07:58 PM ET (US) I'm gonna go to bed and not send in the hit to kill Sylencia. Let's pray for the spirit of bad town play. 36 ArtanisPerson was signed in when posted 07-25-2013 07:57 PM ET (US) You can always play the scum would never buddy up with eachother this hard card. That's the beauty of the strategy we picked. | ||
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