I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia 2

On July 24 2013 13:17 Sylencia wrote:
Firm, thoughts about anonymity in the qts?

On July 24 2013 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
sup guys. I'm a vt
phoneposting btw

On July 24 2013 14:46 Z-BosoN wrote:
Hey dudes

I think to start things off, I want to implore you to please avoid spam in the thread, and at all costs, DONT LURK. Ima bit traumatized frm nuclear mafia

Also, I would like everyone to comment on this QT mechanic, and how it should be used.

To answer my own question, I am of the view that the QTs should be as active as possible. Each person in the QT should gauge the reaction of their buddy and try to compare the general posting on the thread and on the QT. Its another source of information that should be used.

HOWEVER, the good posts and analysis should be in the thread, where everyone can view the info. Im sure scum would much rather hide behind the QTs instead of posting out in the open, so lets try to avoid that.

For clarity:
Random thoughts, fluff, and other stuff = QT
Cases, relevant analysis, poking and prodding = thread

Thoughts/comments?

On July 24 2013 15:03 Z-BosoN wrote:
@FirmTofu

I think there is no point to the QTs if we treat people there as we would treat people here. Anonymity is much more comfortable for scum to post in because they cannot be held liable for their posts.

IMO this is quite agreeable. Can you explain what you mean by "only revealing when you have dirt on them"? Do you find this to be a valid plan?

On July 24 2013 15:13 Z-BosoN wrote:


Oh.
No, I disagree. I think that the information associated with the timing of future mason claims is relevant. TBH, I dont see the point at all to announce your partners for no reason at this stage of the game.

What say you?

On July 25 2013 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FT why di you not say this in the first place?

On July 25 2013 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Tofu, do you think claiming VT makes Shiao more likely to be scum?

On July 25 2013 07:10 Lazermonkey wrote:
Tofu you are correct in that claiming VT is bad. But he didn't really CLAIM VT. And that type of theory crafting is only really relevant when you know what roles there are in the and how many of them there are. Everyone in this game could be VT except for scum. We don't know because the setup is closed.

On July 24 2013 13:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
sup guys. I'm a vt
phoneposting btw

On July 24 2013 19:44 ShiaoPi wrote:
So I am back home.
Reasons for claiming vt:
First off it's true lol, more importantly however I wanted to get some juicy reactions and I got some noteworthy already.
the thing is the claim itself is entirely not indicative of alignment and in my opinion town should just take a note on it and move on. Sure you can't prove anything at this stage, but does it matter? You should be scumhunting not harping around a non-alignment indicative behavior. So let me summarize some reactions to it.
Z-boson is doing the right thing, just noting it and moving on as seen here:
+ Show Spoiler +
FirmTofu and rayn however strike me as incredibly scummy right now. Lazer already pointed out the thing that stands out about FirmTofu's behavior, so no need for me to elaborate on him.

On Rayn however:
Do you see the blatant contradiction?
His first reaction is just a wtf, which is okayish to me, but a bit on the scummy side.
Then he says that it is "pointless" and either "stupid or scum". Saying that there is no reason for me to do it: + Show Spoiler +
As Z boson points out however that it is simply not alignment indicative rayn goes to this position:

+ Show Spoiler +
So let me summarize:
-WTF --> Stupid or Scum --> He has a plan!!!!
I don't apprehend how you can go through these stages based on logic. It is much more likely he tried to paint me in a bad manner, then saw that it did not quite work out and reverted course. I mean in the beginning he does not even entertain the notion of my claim being part of a plan, he just says stupid/scum.
Anyway since he apparently got killed already not much more to say about him.

##Vote: FirmTofu

On July 25 2013 07:28 Lazermonkey wrote:
You don't make any sense what so ever dude. Please reread what I said a couple of times and think a little.

Yes, why couldn't he be lying? Give me one reason. Why cannot prove him false anyway. His claim means jack shit. And why are you ignoring the fact that this is a fucking closed setup? There could be 9 VT claiming and for all we know it could actually be correct because we don't know what setup this is.

Also, lynch all liars is a terrible policy. lying about being VT in this setup isn't alignment indicative at all. It doesn't hurt town or help scum. Its 100% null.

I don't think you are the best lynch atm, read the thread better please.

And lastly, HOW DID THIS MAKE ME SCUMMY?

On July 25 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
That wasn't really your point at all. And you got it all backwards. I was the first to suspect you but not because of the kenpachi thing but because of your wierd take on ShiaoPi's claim. ShiaoPi was the one to agree with my suspicions on you. At this point I didn't think Shiao was town, just null. It was first later on when during his interactions with Rayn when I thought he was town, I still do. I don't see how this doesn't make any sense.

Also, why am I scummy?

On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:


Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate.



Explain thx.

Also, Artanis is my current partner (don't think he mentioned it)

On July 24 2013 23:57 Sylencia wrote:
Oh wait, we weren't supposed to reveal? I thought the opposite was better - what am I missing =|

On July 25 2013 00:10 Sylencia wrote:


Oh, I was under the assumption that the last point was kinda being followed. I also thought the reasoning was horrible to start, but I now completely understand that blue death will cause those linked to them to be targetted fast in the case information was given out.

On July 26 2013 00:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm leaving for today and will 99% miss the deadline and shit.

Throwing my substantial abilities of premonition into the future, I predict a lynch on Firmtofu, so I'm preemptively sheeping a wagon that's not being consolidated yet, but should be, because CONSOLIDATE YOU MORONS

thanks.

##Unvote
##Vote FirmTofu

On July 26 2013 01:03 Koshi wrote:
FT my man, I have been wrong in the past. I will make it up with you today by sheeping your vote. I would you to put it on Artanis though. But w.e.

On July 26 2013 02:20 Rainbows wrote:
I played scum with Rayn before and hes super active. I dont think hes our bestblynch choice today.

On July 26 2013 02:21 ShiaoPi wrote:
@FT whats your read on koshi and malungo?

On July 26 2013 02:29 ShiaoPi wrote:
@ft: if rayn is removed from the game. who do you want to lynch?

On July 26 2013 02:32 Stutters695 wrote:
If you want to vig him I'm totally behind it.

On July 26 2013 02:36 ShiaoPi wrote:
rayn ie actually reminding me of his play in catch 22. but I suck at meta cases and i dislike using them, so i did not mention it until now.

@FT: can you expand your read on rainbows?

On July 26 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What is this? Assuming you are town why is it not beneficial for scum to create another town wagon?
You need to elaborate on this.

On July 26 2013 02:49 ShiaoPi wrote:


what abiut the entire policy thing he brought up?

On July 27 2013 05:16 Koshi wrote:
SHIEEEET CAN I QUOTE YOUR OPENING POST FROM SICILIAN?

On July 27 2013 05:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have no idea wha's going on. Good shot Sylencia!

I promise to be more help tomorrow. I have had shit days at work (~18-20hours/day).

Sylencia & ShiaoPi are town, i have no idea about anyone else.

On July 27 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote:
Imagine there is a traitor and now he guesses Rayn + Bozon and Rayn still has a buddy.


HAhahahaha. This could be epic.

Anyway we go
Z-Bozon
Rayn
--Traitor--

Stutters you still want to try man? I'm feeling completely demotivated now

On July 27 2013 06:33 cDgCorazon wrote:

He did. When I woke up I got 2 pms. One saying kill Rayn and then the next one a couple of hours later saying don't kill Rayn. I thought I'd let it slide.