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On July 26 2013 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:17 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also we are not lynching Artanis or Lazermonkey. Exactly why are we not lynching Artanis? Because he is making sense although his case on you i don't agree with. Can we just kill Sylencia/Koshi? Koshi is definitely most scummy from the active players. He is even himself calling his post terrible... Sylencia & Malongo are just meh and Sylencia just disappeared after he was put some pressure on him. At least Malongo lurks with style, though he is useless. So the part where he is not taking any real stance nor pushing any scum reads is good? Or what are you meaning? Its terribly easy to make sense as scum even moresoe than town because you actually know if you are wrong or right whereas town you have to guess to some extent.
I kinda want to wait with Sylencia, give him one more day. If he doesn't up his posting, I can kill him but right now, I'd rather not kill him.
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On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: Show nested quote +On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me.
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Z-boson, you think Koshi and Malango are scum because their play is very bad for town. I can agree with this in some ways. However, a big part of my problems with both Koshi and Malango being scum is that their play is really bonkers if they are scum. Try to analyze their actions from scum PoV and not only town PoV and see if you see what I see!
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On July 26 2013 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me. Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier? Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it? I can think of several diferent reasons but I don't think it matters too much, I can't speak for Artanis.
No I still really dislike him. And I find it even more interesting that he goes away RIGHT when swaped over to Artanis. Also, think of this: Look at stutters filter and take note of his recent activity. He is really arguing HARD with me. he says I'm really scummy and that he is really considering voting me. But WHERE is his vote? on Malango, and it still is? but what does he do with it? Jack shit. And then he just leaves it there. Stutters is not interested in finding scum.
Actually, I think I can kill stutters instead. Someone else wantie?
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Hmm, well I feel like going to bed as well : (. But because I am a man I will try to get up at 5:00am and play Lol. To all of you left, remember to consolidate!!! I cannot stress how important this is! The more we split our votes the more influnce you give scum votes. And if you are voting for someone who is not one of the main candidates you are indirectly voting the one who got the most votes. So do consolidate, even if it means you have to vote a lesser scum read.
My lynch priority as for now!
1.Artanis
2.Stutters.
3.FT
4.Sylencia
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On July 26 2013 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 08:04 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:47 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:41 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 07:35 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 26 2013 07:12 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 06:15 Z-BosoN wrote:
Well, to be honest I actually think artanis is town.
Scum are generally careful about what they say in thread and how don't want to stick their necks out.
He earlier said that "one of firm/rayn" is likely scum.
Then out of the blue he decided that Lazer, someone who he didn't even mention in his filter, is a scumread.
Then he gives town reads on people who earlier he said were town
If I were scum the last thing I'd want to do is antagonize one of the most active people in the thread
Look at Artanis play this far though. His vote on me is the first time he sticks his neck out what so ever. He basically haven't taken a conflict before this. Like Rayn said earlier, sure attacking easy targets are easy in the short perspective but in the long run, attacking more vocal players will probably be more effective. Well, attacking vocal players is more effective if you go by my logic. However, he sounded flimsy as fuck in this post: On July 25 2013 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:31 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:29 Dandel Ion wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest.
Your stuff is weak. y two not one if two are two one is more likely to be half of it. ? Because if one were two then four would be divided by carrot and that would implode the world. but there can only be one carrot per monkey. Why would there be two carrots, I only see one, and only one will get it. If two try, they have to be different monkeys, no? There is no limt on the amount of carrots per monkey. This is the fatal flaw in your calculations. The monkey has learned to plant the carrot to grow more. An infinite amount of carrots will emerge and implode the very ground we're standing on. It is known. On July 24 2013 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Second thought.
What if the Kenpachi rule is started by scum? Or scum is finding FT a fitting target? Doubtful, it's creating actual scumhunting discussion where setup discussion was taking place. Shiao is probably town. I am also not a big fan of using this tactic to destroy all conversation day 1, or redirect it on 1 person. That's not what's happening, it's helped trigger scumhunting. On July 24 2013 23:46 Sylencia wrote:On July 24 2013 21:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On July 24 2013 21:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis, do you even have anything relevant to say? Your only not-troll comment was towards Malongo basically telling him his arguments was bad, yet not taking a stance on what you thought about him or anyone else in the game. I said Rayn and Firm are scum because kenpachi gambit. That's two scum already. You guys can find the rest. Your stuff is weak. Having 2 people fall for the same gambit in such a short period seems quite unlikely. I'm pretty sure rayn has been in a game with an attempted Kenpachi gambit anyways so he would know better than to fall for it along with his teammate. I don't think so, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the bait. I do think it's unlikely that two scum would jump on it immediately though, so you're right. There's a good chance one of them is scum though. Firm seemed to be content with jumping on the bandwagon after Rayn pointed it out at first, so Firm would be my first suspect, though I don't like how quickly a wagon formed on him. It feels itchy. If he is scum, this is textbook definition of "OMG I'M NOT STICKING MY NECK OUT" In this same demeanor, it's hard to imagine a scum artanis to randomly say that you are scum and thus do the exact opposite: draw attention to himself. Since I don't have much to work with day 1, it's a small tell, but I feel he's a bad lynch for today. There is a diference though, when he made the flimsy post he wasn't being pressured. He then got called out for being very wish-washy and not scum hunting. THEN he starts to scum hunt and not being flimsy. My guess is that he wanted to show some balls by attacking me. Well that kind of makes sense, but why didn't he antagonize Rainbow, as he was the first one to oppress artanis? If he wanted to show balls, why not do it earlier? Also, what of my bit on stutters, do you agree on it? I can think of several diferent reasons but I don't think it matters too much, I can't speak for Artanis. No I still really dislike him. And I find it even more interesting that he goes away RIGHT when swaped over to Artanis. Also, think of this: Look at stutters filter and take note of his recent activity. He is really arguing HARD with me. he says I'm really scummy and that he is really considering voting me. But WHERE is his vote? on Malango, and it still is? but what does he do with it? Jack shit. And then he just leaves it there. Stutters is not interested in finding scum. Actually, I think I can kill stutters instead. Someone else wantie? You're gonna have to be much more specific than that dude on him. It sounds more like you are angry at him rather than you think he's scum. All you said here is he is arguing hard against you, and yet his vote is not on you. I think you should be looking at the quality of his arguments. Do you agree with them? Are they logical or is he bullshitting? Stutters lurks as town and is very low on activity, normally, with the occasional good post. IMO his points against you don't look too bad, but I want to see if you think the same or not He has no points against me. His whole vote on me is based on the fact that I attacked him. How does that convince you?
No I think he has a very high chance of being scum. Think of this: You are under no real pressure at all, you have 1(actually this is another point, he basically haven't taken a stance on anyone but me and Mal the last 24 hours...) scum read. Some dude says you are scum but noone agrees with this dude. What do you do as town?
I can buy that you argue with the dude. But why isn't he interested in his scum read? He is clearly not going to get lynched yet all he cars about is defending himself. He doesn't care at all about hunting scum. And guess what alignment doesn't care about hunting scum? scum...
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On July 26 2013 08:22 Koshi wrote:
Z-Boson. I do not understand what you want from me. I didn't like Artanis his lurking/trolling. When he did come back I started to look for better targets but I can't find one. I could go for a Malongo lynch.
If Lazer and you agree within 5 mins I will change. Otherwise it stays on Artanis. Naw, leave it on Artanis.
Good night!
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Herp, I'm here. Tired as fuck Lol. Is there anyway possible I can convince you guys to kill Artanis instead? I feel very meh about Malango.
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Actually I'm really surprised that noone did get mason killed yet. One could excpect either of Artanis or Malangos respective partner to have done that by now...
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And not giving a shit is indicative of what alignment, Z-boson? Does scum not want to stay alive at this point or what? Sylencia's last post is really bad though not necesarily scum motivated at all...
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On July 26 2013 12:26 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:23 Lazermonkey wrote:
Actually I'm really surprised that noone did get mason killed yet. One could excpect either of Artanis or Malangos respective partner to have done that by now... Syl seems more like he doesn't want Artanis to shoot him Which makes it even wierded that he doesn't take a shot...
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On July 26 2013 12:29 ShiaoPi wrote:
I mean the respective mason partners are sylencia and rayn....
That's another reason why we should kill rayn, I expect a town rayn to just kill malongo instead of making us use a lynch on him, if he thinks him scummy.
Right, which would indicate that Malango is town unless he is scum with Rayn.
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On July 26 2013 12:31 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:28 Lazermonkey wrote:
And not giving a shit is indicative of what alignment, Z-boson? Does scum not want to stay alive at this point or what? Sylencia's last post is really bad though not necesarily scum motivated at all... He could have scumhunted, he could have given his reads. I stated that I would keep my vote on him until he actually contributed and he didn't do shit. If he's town, he's not playing to his meta. But that's not really relevant though. Is he playing to his scum meta is what is relevant...
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On July 26 2013 12:33 ShiaoPi wrote:
Sorry for tripleposting but is there no chance for you to make a rayn lynch happen?
No.
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On July 26 2013 12:30 Rainbows wrote:
I'm about to shoot Stutters because he's. useless if anyone doesn't care :p
Actually, you should! If I am wrong and Malango is scum he might pm right before dead line in order to kill Rayn as well. While I don't think that is the case, I'd still much rather have stutters dead than risk Rayn dead.
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On July 26 2013 12:40 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:38 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 12:30 Rainbows wrote:
I'm about to shoot Stutters because he's. useless if anyone doesn't care :p Actually, you should! If I am wrong and Malango is scum he might pm right before dead line in order to kill Rayn as well. While I don't think that is the case, I'd still much rather have stutters dead than risk Rayn dead. Well if this happens then I'm happy with 1-1 trade.
It would be at least a 1-1 trade anyway if we assume that Malango is scum. Why not go for it?
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On July 26 2013 12:42 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:42 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 12:40 Rainbows wrote:On July 26 2013 12:38 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 26 2013 12:30 Rainbows wrote:
I'm about to shoot Stutters because he's. useless if anyone doesn't care :p Actually, you should! If I am wrong and Malango is scum he might pm right before dead line in order to kill Rayn as well. While I don't think that is the case, I'd still much rather have stutters dead than risk Rayn dead. Well if this happens then I'm happy with 1-1 trade. It would be at least a 1-1 trade anyway if we assume that Malango is scum. Why not go for it? And if he's town and stutters is town then.... fuck? Then stutters needs to play better next time + You have saved us a misslynch.
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On July 26 2013 12:44 Sylencia wrote:
I didn't shoot because him not caring isn't conclusive enough to say he's scum. You guys just said he hasn't done anything, I posted the logs to show nothing happened in the QT either, and that's it.
You have totally missed why I want to kill Artanis it seems... Read my filter. Kill Artanis...
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Well, thats it I guess. Malango dies.
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Disagree with killing tofu.
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