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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:39 FiveTouch wrote: Cock-o-meter sounds funnier, but cockahmater seems more correct. It's probably user preference sir. I imagine the second one being said with an Aussie accent. Sounds amazing. Where's DP? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:09 getmoript wrote: @Onegu. Please dear god shoot JJD tonight. Dude you're so frustrating. What about my last post didnt u like? You really don't believe that interpreted your comment the way I did? Like I get that ur riding all high because you caught scum. But you're wrong right now about me. All game you've basically ignored everything I've said to you and it's so annoying. I get comments like On July 23 2013 06:19 getmoript wrote: You really haven't been reading have you jjd On July 24 2013 05:04 getmoript wrote: I already told you. If you had bothered to read my filter then you would understand how and why I have a meta read on you. Communicate with me. You've given very few reasons here and I think explained my self pretty well for what you've said. Like I already said, the only thing I don't really have a good explaination for is TAA. Yes, he slipped my notice. But that doesn't make me scum. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
Upstanding Blueville getmoript A hydra with a correct DT claim on TAA and pretty much clear town all the way through the game. There is almost no question that this guy is town and is most definitely Blue too. FiveTouch The other hydra. I think Marv was my guardian angel for the longest time, although he is probably wrong that I couldn't make the counter arguments the way I did when under pressure, I probably wouldn't have had the creativity to try it as scum. Day 1 VT claim into close lynch into Night 1 Lurk and Early Day 1 RB'd claim is some crazy shit. Seriously, if you are red, I will bow down and worship your crazy masterminding ways. OneguI pretty much cleared DocH on this one and then Onegu made that awfully dumb but town only Vig claim. But this can only be a town claim and matches DocH's behavior. Definitely a blue. Still, what the fuck Onegu. Mr Third Party Oatsmaster and Survivor. Since the start of Day 2, I've placed Oatsmaster more and more into a third party role. Oatsmaster starts off as bored and disinterested and really telegraphs his uselessness in terms of NK to scum and sets up as mild lynchbait as well. When the balance of power shifts to town favor after day 2 lynch, Oatsmaster shifts into more scum hunting mode. The Murky Purple Color Coded to show probable alignments. jrkirby jrkirby says that he is both going to siggraph and is busy with work. Appears to mirror JJD's but is even more lurky. Ultimately the fearlessness of his reads while under the gun lands him on the towny side of the spectrum. Yet the spectre of the lurkiness still hangs over the guy. I don't think anything will help for the shot, but he promises to play more. JarJarDinks I have no idea why JJD thought getmoript was scum and he seems really slow to read the thread. I think he's a bit unclear with wording and arguments. cDgCorazon I made a case for shoot this guy earlier in the day and looking back maybe it is more because of how frustrating it was to read his filter. From questioning the Onegu claim to impulsively claiming RoleCop, Corazon seemed to bumble in all kinds of anti-town ways. Of the purples, I think cDgCorazon is the most likely to be scum. But combine the late entry into the game with self-professed poor town play and willingness of Marv to read this guy as almost braindead has soften my previous read. The Big Read The remaining players are my top scum reads. I know there will be some hint of OMGUS as both of these players are heavily targeting me, but I've bided my time long enough for the evidence to develop, and will be presenting it in a separate post. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
TheAwesomeAll FirmTofu austinmcc The Narrative The opening strategy of this scum team is to open with some fluffy messages between two of the scum members so there can be some distance between the team. When push comes to shove, the two scum members don't actually press hard into each other. When in doubt, the third safe and towny member will escort the two out of trouble and guide the pressure away. In the mess of the first day, the safe towny member would seize opportunities against scummy towns. The other two will provide support if possible. Through this process, the scum will also attempt to gain the ear of town leadership and that's how they attempt to influence town agenda. While seemingly distant and unrelated and always talking to different guys, the scum team is actually coordinated and won't have horrendous cases of miscommunication where they totally misunderstand each other's intent. FirmTofu - TheAwesomeAll This Day1 interaction is essentially a bait. They will look scummy, fluffy, and even a bit newbie. However, anyone wading into the mess can be ambushed by austinmcc if vulnerable enough. With the stuff of day 1 lynch basically burying the suspicions of the opening act. Still, while distanced, the two players are still trying to support each other. Familiarity I think this is the first sign of a slip where TAA unveils unwarranted amount of knowledge about FirmTofu. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356¤tpage=13#254 On July 22 2013 05:30 getmoript wrote: Do you know fuck all about Tofu? Like have you played with him whatsoever? The No-Lynch Rage FirmTofu has the job of marshalling the votes for the lynch on the scum side. He names jrkirby and then pressures DocH, but conveniently distances TAA from the other two non-voters. We have the scum team according to FirmTofu: On July 22 2013 14:59 FirmTofu wrote: Looks like I found the whole scumteam guys. It's obviously DrH, TG, and jrkirby. and again omits TAA from hard scrutiny later On July 23 2013 08:35 FirmTofu wrote: The whole bit where people attack Oats for not giving a shit is a waste of time. Whether you attack him or not, he isn't going to start suddenly giving a shit. Vigi him if you have to. Stop wasting time talking to him. For the lynch tomorrow, TG is the only viable choice. He's been scummy all game long and needs to be exterminated. His death would also provide us invaluable information about jrk and DrH, maybe even Oats. As for where discussion should go..., I think we should be talking about people like TAA and JJD, maybe rayn as well. There are people who are currently sitting in the null-scum territory for me and are likely to scumslip when pressured. I'm going to go through their filters and see if I can find some dirt on them. The Distant Support While with no scum read on me, we have this gem of a post from TAA: On July 24 2013 06:20 TheAwesomeAll wrote: Also i disagree with the whole "TG claimed RB so hes not scum" train. I think if you thought he was scum D1 you should still think thats the case, since claiming RB obviously implies youre some kind of blue role (yes even despite VT roleclaims on D1) which is exactly what a desperate scum will do to make it another day. I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much. If Getmoript had just waited a bit longer on his role-claim, it might not even needed to happen. TAA Defense When TAA was in trouble, FirmTofu enters the thread and proceeds to try to throw up as much distraction as possible. It looks like a delaying tactic to not talk about TAA and focus on the blue claims. Including questioning Getmoript's cop claim while never "really defending TAA." Finally he starts looking at TAA and posts: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356¤tpage=58#1147 Conveniently left out of his post filtering is the red: On July 23 2013 20:09 TheAwesomeAll wrote: rayns post mortem. Main thing rayne was concerned with day 1 was fighting with firmtofu, calling each other scum. Austincc thought rayn was town whereas oats was convinced rayn was scum. Tangeng joined the the rayn is scum train of thought later, but wasnt half as convinced as rayn was. Speculation: id guess oats is town because it would be really stupid to tunnel some townie and then shoot him super speculation: oats might be vigi and shot rayne but i dont know where the mafia killpower went then. Alternatively firmtofu might have been scum who didnt like the pressure. Happy wifom everyone On July 23 2013 22:07 TheAwesomeAll wrote: onegu i didnt respond to your case because its a very weak one. The first post you quoted i called firmtofu out for pretending to be very productive(or willing to be very productive) while not doing anything. That isnt a scum tell? in my book it is. The latter post i tried to show what a facade getmoript was pulling, going full bad cop-good cop on us this game. His fake emotions and empty posts seemed scummy to me, really reminiscent of how iGrok played in a newbie mafia game. Player with a ton of experience making fluffy posts and talking a ton. He has kinda stopped making the flufposts so it mightve been just part of his day1 play. Still thinking about this one though. On July 24 2013 06:16 TheAwesomeAll wrote: Its funny 5touch is defending TG again. I have a scum read on neither but gotta keep an eye on things like that. On July 24 2013 06:20 TheAwesomeAll wrote: Also i disagree with the whole "TG claimed RB so hes not scum" train. I think if you thought he was scum D1 you should still think thats the case, since claiming RB obviously implies youre some kind of blue role (yes even despite VT roleclaims on D1) which is exactly what a desperate scum will do to make it another day. I think claiming RB is very much a null tell, it shouldnt change your position on TG too much. austinmcc - FirmTofu austin provided cover on day one, but his influence was more obvious on day 2. Day 2 TAA defense austinmcc basically guided FirmTofu out of trouble after his failed defense of TAA. At the end of the whole affair FirmTofu finishes with: On July 24 2013 13:53 FirmTofu wrote: I think you should all hold off on your accusations of me until the flip. I'm done answering these questions. Austin had the only good ones anyway. crediting Austin. But Austin never asked a single question. Look at Austin's filter. Austin basically explained everything and even pulled out another example game in support: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356¤tpage=60#1193 TAA Vote Both austinmcc and FirmTofu vote at the end of the run when it looks austinmcc Day one Austin day one was offensive against Oatsmaster and me. Defensive for TAA and FirmTofu. Even had a "with that last post by XXXX I don't think he is scum anymore." Based on the attack, I had austin on a town read on day one. After that austin basically coasted without producing too much venturous new material either night 1 or day 2. Other stuff Miscellaneous Austin Reading One weird thing is that austin said that I claimed VT during the night in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356¤tpage=64#1276 I definitely claimed VT Day 1. I don't know what to make of this mistake, but since austin was exhorting FiveTouch to read me, I didn't expect him to make this mistake. Tunneling Both FirmTofu & austinmcc have tunneled me hard with nothing to dislodge their argument against me. I think this is what getript considers more of scum meta. I'm not too keen on this one. Although it does make sense to follow through on your scummy plans. But tunnelling seems a bit all-in. Roleblock on Me What the fuck. What the fuck. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
Jrkirby post was a little better someone had a problem with it but IDK looked ok to me. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
I don't know why you wouldn't just say "I'm going to shoot TG" outright because that's what you're saying with ur tunnel and ur bias. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 26 2013 10:22 FiveTouch wrote: Don't shoot someone just because you don't agree with their conclusions. I actually liked TG's post up there. I don't know why you wouldn't just say "I'm going to shoot TG" outright because that's what you're saying with ur tunnel and ur bias. Actually I am more likely to shoot jrkirby atm but thier death posts I liked JrKirbys better. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:10 cDgCorazon wrote: @Onegu. Please dear good shoot TG or jrkirby tonight. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I wish you would shoot cora just to smash that smug grin off his face. Thoughts about Austin being scum guys? I think both of jrkirby's and TG's posts are ok. | ||
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getmoript
1016 Posts
On July 26 2013 10:59 Onegu wrote: Im not going to make everyone happy with this shot, hopefully its scum I upset but I will be honest I wish I didnt claim and just take the shot stress free but that train has passed. I am not shooting cora, austin, getmoript, 5t, or firm at this point. And for me Jkirby and TG are my main focus at this point. I'd rather you shoot oats or JJD instead of TG. Kirby, eh. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On July 26 2013 11:19 getmoript wrote: I'd rather you shoot oats or JJD instead of TG. Kirby, eh. Iam actually going over oats filter now, when I first joined I had scum read on him but it has gotten better rereading to get a better stance. Do both heads agree on JJD? | ||
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