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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
July 25 2013 19:47 GMT
#1661
Day starts in roughly 10 hours. Please send all night actions via PM to both Bluelightz and me.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 19:53 GMT
#1662
On July 24 2013 22:41 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 22:40 FiveTouch wrote:
Got pretty high hopes for TAA actually being the scum roleblocker and our vigi shot going through ^_^
I dont think scum has a roleblocker.


In context, this is JJD saying he doesn't believe scum has a roleblocker. He argues further that it doesn't make sense for scum to RB TG and that the RB was town aligned, right?

On July 25 2013 21:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:12 getmoript wrote:
Guess that means we might be dead tonight, eh other head?
I would think you'd have expected this regardless. Kill U , RB the vig makes sense. Doesn't matter now I guess. Maybe we have a medic.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:40 getmoript wrote:
We'd better sign our shit or this is going to get confusing.
Are you thinking newbie/afk scumteam?

JJD:
I'm really bad at reading him. And that's even considering I've played scum with him.
Posts like this:
On July 24 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##unvote
##vote TAA


Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2.

Like....so unbelievably ridiculous. Too ridiculous to be scum in my opinion. I'm pretty sure scum would be a little more wary of attacking us when we were the towniest motherfuckers in thread all game.
No real point in arguing this since you're confirmed town now but I don't think anyone would have labled you the "towniest motherfuckers" before your claim.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:44 getmoript wrote:
lol JJD has attacked like everybody throughout the game
yeah, that's just completely untrue


In context, Getmoript was musing about his getting a scum lynched. And JJD's reaction is...to forget that we just lynched a scum roleblocker and posit that the scumteam will RB the vig and kill Getmoript?
Artanis & marv
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 25 2013 19:59 GMT
#1663
Countdown!





Someone please convince me or at least Onegu about the information we're going to get from town flip out of me is going to be worthwhile.

Onegu, if you decide to shoot me, give me a heads up so I can write up a final post on my other reads. Otherwise I'll hold them in reserve to see if I can improve them.




@ FiveTouch
+ Show Spoiler +

It makes sense in review as the probable scenario that getript should have foreseen and expected when making the claim.
I think that it is certainly worded for that interpretation.

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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 20:05 GMT
#1664
My point is that he was only moments before convinced that there WAS no scum roleblocker, that the RB was town aligned. This indicates that he considered the RB scum aligned BEFORE he found out (saying he "would think Geript would have considered it" in such a way that insinuates that HE had considered it).

It's just incongruent...I'm trying to figure out if it's a slip-up or what.
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:06 GMT
#1665
@TG just write an IID post regardless
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 20:07 GMT
#1666
Maybe you were right geript... Not sure. The above stuff was VE.

~marv
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:14 GMT
#1667
@Marv/VE. I'm putting a case together.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 25 2013 20:17 GMT
#1668
On July 26 2013 04:53 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 22:41 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 24 2013 22:40 FiveTouch wrote:
Got pretty high hopes for TAA actually being the scum roleblocker and our vigi shot going through ^_^
I dont think scum has a roleblocker.


In context, this is JJD saying he doesn't believe scum has a roleblocker. He argues further that it doesn't make sense for scum to RB TG and that the RB was town aligned, right?

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 21:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On July 25 2013 15:12 getmoript wrote:
Guess that means we might be dead tonight, eh other head?
I would think you'd have expected this regardless. Kill U , RB the vig makes sense. Doesn't matter now I guess. Maybe we have a medic.

On July 25 2013 15:40 getmoript wrote:
We'd better sign our shit or this is going to get confusing.
Are you thinking newbie/afk scumteam?

JJD:
I'm really bad at reading him. And that's even considering I've played scum with him.
Posts like this:
On July 24 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##unvote
##vote TAA


Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2.

Like....so unbelievably ridiculous. Too ridiculous to be scum in my opinion. I'm pretty sure scum would be a little more wary of attacking us when we were the towniest motherfuckers in thread all game.
No real point in arguing this since you're confirmed town now but I don't think anyone would have labled you the "towniest motherfuckers" before your claim.

On July 25 2013 15:44 getmoript wrote:
lol JJD has attacked like everybody throughout the game
yeah, that's just completely untrue


In context, Getmoript was musing about his getting a scum lynched. And JJD's reaction is...to forget that we just lynched a scum roleblocker and posit that the scumteam will RB the vig and kill Getmoript?
I didn't forget. Getmoript is saying now that the roleblocker is dead, he's probably gonna get killed tonight. I was pointing out that he was probabaly gonna get killed regardless of what role TAA had because there was no way the roleblocker would have targetted him since he would have targetted the vig.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 20:36 GMT
#1669
But that doesn't even make sense why would the RBer target the vig unless he was targeting scum? Town aligned vigs are just as if not MORE likely to hit townies than scum, that's a completely bogus line of reasoning. In fact, it makes MORE sense to RB the cop to make town suspicious of him.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 20:40 GMT
#1670
In fact, that ONLY makes sense...if you're scum and you KNOW the vig is targetting scum.

/dunked
Artanis & marv
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 25 2013 20:43 GMT
#1671
On July 26 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
But that doesn't even make sense why would the RBer target the vig unless he was targeting scum? Town aligned vigs are just as if not MORE likely to hit townies than scum, that's a completely bogus line of reasoning. In fact, it makes MORE sense to RB the cop to make town suspicious of him.
Town isn't gonna be suspicious of a cop that caught scum. And how would scum know exactly who the vig is gonna target? Like if there's evan a small chance he's gonna shoot @ scum, he's getting roleblocked.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 20:52 GMT
#1672
On July 26 2013 05:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 05:36 FiveTouch wrote:
But that doesn't even make sense why would the RBer target the vig unless he was targeting scum? Town aligned vigs are just as if not MORE likely to hit townies than scum, that's a completely bogus line of reasoning. In fact, it makes MORE sense to RB the cop to make town suspicious of him.
Town isn't gonna be suspicious of a cop that caught scum. And how would scum know exactly who the vig is gonna target? Like if there's evan a small chance he's gonna shoot @ scum, he's getting roleblocked.

You'd be surprised at what towns would be suspicious of kid.
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 20:52 GMT
#1673
Why did /dunked become a thing?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 20:55 GMT
#1674
I don't know, I've never used it. I was trying it out. I don't like it.
Artanis & marv
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 25 2013 20:56 GMT
#1675
I think one of you should make half a point and then write /slam
And then the other one finish it off and then write /dunked

You're welcome.
Grubby's #1 Fan
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 21:12 GMT
#1676
On July 25 2013 21:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 15:12 getmoript wrote:
Guess that means we might be dead tonight, eh other head?
I would think you'd have expected this regardless. Kill U , RB the vig makes sense. Doesn't matter now I guess. Maybe we have a medic.

I want to make an exceptionally important point here. There's literally 0 reason for me town to expect us dead REGARDLESS of the flip. If he flips green, then we're likely paranoid or insane. With another claimed cop, it's quite possible that they shoot him instead of us. Or they hope that Onegu doesn't shoot and they kill him instead. Or hell, maybe they just shoot Marv/VE because they're good and shit. There's 0 reason to expect us to be dead regardless from a town perspective because there are so many quality targets available (blue/vet/etc.).

However, the only reason for us to be dead regardless of the flip is if JJD 100% knew the exact flip already. As scum, if you're losing your RB and you have a claimed detective who's apparently sane, he's a HUGE detriment. He can mostly confirm some of the questionable townies.

This comment specifically says to me, "I've been thinking about who's dead." Town can have some expectations, but quite often they're just that.

On July 24 2013 06:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##unvote
##vote TAA


Part of me thinks this a way for getmoript to save oats but I'll trade 1 for 2.

This is the first time JJD brings up TAA at all. I'd talked about TAA a good amount; Austin had (but austin didn't think he was scummy). Tofu had. 5T had. Now JJD had a scum read on me for a while, but if that's the case then he should be trying to show how I'm making 'scum cases.' But at no point is he actively pushing for me; he's not trying to break me down and actually show why I'm scum. At no point is he actually engaging people to talk about the read on me or trying to talk to any other active player to convince them OR confirm his read. He's also actively ignored posts from multiple people talking about my scum meta (which is shall we say drastically different).

Most importantly, his reads really haven't moved at all. His reads come off as static to me (which tends to be a scum tell) for me. He's not looking for confirmation bias at all. That's a really big indicator for me.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 21:13 GMT
#1677
I find it exceedingly scummy that you have no comment on the actual discussion that's occurring right now, choosing only to chime in on the bit of fluff that happened at the end Cora. Like, you're my #1 target tomorrow if you're not dead tonight. And it's not because I have unreasonable expectations of your ability to replace into games or whatever tripe you were on about earlier, it's because you're doing scummy shit and I think you're scum.
Artanis & marv
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
July 25 2013 21:17 GMT
#1678
@VE/Mar What do you think of my points (regardless of my meta on him)
~g
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#1679
I'm coming around g.
Artanis & marv
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 25 2013 21:30 GMT
#1680
On July 26 2013 06:13 FiveTouch wrote:
I find it exceedingly scummy that you have no comment on the actual discussion that's occurring right now, choosing only to chime in on the bit of fluff that happened at the end Cora. Like, you're my #1 target tomorrow if you're not dead tonight. And it's not because I have unreasonable expectations of your ability to replace into games or whatever tripe you were on about earlier, it's because you're doing scummy shit and I think you're scum.


How many times are you going to threaten me and not follow through on it?
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