They don't necessarily make you mafia. I never said they do. I was pointing out all the places where people did scummy things. Town can obviously do scummy things too, by mistake.

Now you will probably ask me, "How are any of the things that you pointed out that I did scummy?"
1) Claiming scum sarcastically is scummy to me. I think it indicates inherent guilt. You probably disagree.
2) When you say someone is town to you, I expect a follow up explaining why. Why would you just throw a town read into the thread as town without explaining why? If a townie is talking about his reads, he should be informative and thorough. There should be very little that you feel you need to hide from us.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:03 GMT

#289

On July 22 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So who do you want to lynch FirmTofu? And you ahvn't still answered me.

I'll let you know soon, I'm still deciding. Don't have any strong scum reads like I usually do. There aren't enough posts to implicate someone beyond a reasonable doubt, unfortunately. I'm going to have to pick an educated guess.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:06 GMT

#291

Can people stop calling FiveTouch FT? Jesus Fucking Christ, it's making the thread needlessly more complicated to understand.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:12 GMT

#292

TAA's case on getmoript is bad. Marv did a good job of pointing out why. I'm still undecided as to whether TAA is bad town or scum.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:14 GMT

#293

On July 22 2013 05:08 getmoript wrote:
Also @whoever's around... What do you think of TAA completely ignoring any sort of points on JJD and barely touching on Tofu?

This is a good point. TAA, can you give us your thoughts on me and JJD? Any reason why you're ignoring us?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:21 GMT

#294

As far as I'm concerned, far too many of the town is useless to warrant a lynch on an active player right now. We need to weed out the uselessness and send a statement to the lurkers that we will not tolerate fluff/lurking.

Useless People:
jrkirby
Zephirdd
DoctorHelvetica
Oatsmaster
Semi-Useless People:
TanGeng
austinmcc
Active but Useless:
TheAwesomeAll
JarJarDinks

This is embarrassing. Absolutely disgusting. More than half the town isn't contributing in a meaningful way. I am going to vote for one of these people, probably someone on the useless list. I think I'd be willing to give Zeph the benefit of the doubt because he's about to be replaced.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:23 GMT

#295

Voting Oats for now because all he's typing is "lol", "don't lynch me", "nooooo"
##Vote: Oatsmaster

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:29 GMT

#298

On July 22 2013 06:25 getmoript wrote:
Why does JJD get an "active but useless" title over Dr.H? Why is TanG semi-useless instead of useless? That post makes no sense to me at all in how you came to put people where you put them. Explain.

Ah, you're right JDD doesn't have many posts. You can move him to useless. TanG at least posted thoughts about the thread, making him semi-useless but not completely useless.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:31 GMT

#300

Actually, scratch that I went through Tan's filter. He can be in the useless category too.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:33 GMT

#301

EBWOP:
Useless People:
jrkirby
Zephirdd
DoctorHelvetica
Oatsmaster
TanGeng
JarJarDinks
Semi-Useless People:
austinmcc
TheAwesomeAll

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:49 GMT

#307

On July 22 2013 06:42 getmoript wrote:
LOL. So you want to continue to post random lists w/o any actual thought put behind who's where.
~g

How are they random? It's pretty obvious that all of the people on my list are lurking/useless.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:52 GMT

#309

On July 22 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey let's just lynch FirmTofu. He has no scumreads, he is calling out scummy behaviour but apparently that does not make people scum!?!?!?!? He makes useless lists that are also wrong in the first place (lol).

How can you honestl justify a lynch on me when there are people who haven't even started playing the game? Seriously? I'm trying to find scum and some people are just goofing off not doing anything and you think I'm the mafia?

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 21:56 GMT

#314

On July 22 2013 06:53 getmoript wrote:
Because anyone could've made those lists from any alignment. There's no real thought put into reading who's where and why. Some of those I have leans on in different directions but you can't even seem to find a favor as to which you want to lynch other than Oats for weird random reasons which don't differentiate him from the other lurkers.

Of course anyone could have made those lists from any alignment! That's not the point at all.

People asked for who I'd like to lynch and this is my answer. I have already justified why, so now it is your job to convince me otherwise.

I picked Oats pretty much randomly. I could have easily picked any of the other lurkers. Do you want to lynch any of the other people on the list? If so, who and why? Convince me.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 21 2013 22:02 GMT

#320

Alright, lynch me if you want, I don't care. I'll look into TAA now and see if my null read on him changes. Like I said, I'm not really convinced that we should be lynching active players right now.

Active players are more likely to continue being active and have more chances to slip up. Considering the high percentage of lurkers, we should be focusing on that group of people first. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire scum team is hiding there, laughing at us while we accuse one another.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 22 2013 03:00 GMT

#397

At first glance, TanGeng's recent posts look terrible. I think I may have to move my vote. Going to reread the last few pages, brb.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 22 2013 03:15 GMT

#402

Just running through a timeline of TanG's recent posts to get a better feel for where he's coming from and to gather my thoughts about him.
+ Show Spoiler [TanG's Timeline] +

On July 22 2013 09:08 TanGeng wrote:
Hey all, got back and looking through the thread as the deadline starts to get closer.

Let's go look over the who might look like a surer lynch among the actives. If no clear candidate, let's go with an inactive.

TanGeng is stating how he prioritizes his actions. Actives first, inactives second. We need to remember this.

On July 22 2013 09:27 TanGeng wrote:
I'm not even the most inactive in this game

Fuck! This is going to be bad for town.

At this point I'm looking at the most active filter: getmoript. All this stuff looks townie for me right now.

He's established a town read on getmoript. I would assume he would move on to the next active person to look at based on his previous post explaining that he wants to look at actives before inactives.

On July 22 2013 09:45 TanGeng wrote:
I'm going to vote for JJD at this point, an initial pressure/suspicion vote.

Getript suggests that we should be lynching him. A bit later, he shows up for a short little post about Tofu and then promptly goes to sleep. As getript suggests "convenient."

Also 5T, what are you doing leaving me off your lists!!! You too Tofu!!! I am useless. Totally useless.

What? This is so off. Why is he suddenly on JJD? I thought he was filter diving active players? Why does he want to pressure someone when there are so few hours left in the day? We need to be voting our scummiest reads at this point, not pressure voting people.

On July 22 2013 10:46 TanGeng wrote:
Really austinmc. What do I say about 5T's omission of my name or what ever else TAA said!? Interesting, you left me off your lists? Interesting? What would be so interesting about it?

From my point of view, as vanilla town, it's just stupid and I called out both 5T and Tofu for it.

Why is it stupid to YOU if we leave out you on our list of lurkers? If you know you are town, then you should know that we are leaving out a townie. Why would should that arouse suspicion to you specifically? It should only be suspicious to a third party because they don't know our alignments and could suspect that 5T and I are leaving you out because we are your scumbuddies.

Also, why are you claiming? Sounds like a cheap trick to get people off your ass. VT's shouldn't be claiming Vt right now. They need to be looking as pro-town as possible to try and take a hit from the mafia. Blues shouldn't be claiming VT either because that would just confuse town more than it would help. So basically, claiming VT as town is a bad decision no matter what your role actually is.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 22 2013 03:17 GMT

#403

EBWOP: Sorry about my switch from 3rd person to 2nd person midway though that post.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 22 2013 03:22 GMT

#406

On July 22 2013 12:18 austinmcc wrote:
Do you have an ETA on the reads? I'm super interested in sleep, but would really like to see your thoughts here and then I will give some minor thoughts and then maybe we can lynch scum and i can go to sleep.

I'm not sure if you're talking to me here, but TanGeng is definitely my top scum read now. There's plenty of people I don't like for lurking, but if I had to pick someone to be mafia, TG would be my guy.

This is evidenced by my recent vote on him.

FirmTofu

United States1956 Posts

July 22 2013 03:35 GMT

#408

On July 22 2013 12:26 austinmcc wrote:
Was talking to getmoript there. Apparently there's a post a-brewin'.

But since you responded, I feel bad. I will give you my fourth child.

*hands over a box of condoms*