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On July 16 2013 09:30 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Koshi looked scummy to a lot of people. I imagine some hero vig tried to make big plays. Rainbows also looked scummy to a lot of people. How do you know that the scum did not kill Koshi?
Really?
Koshi was one of the scummiest looking players by town consensus. He'd be way easier to mislynch, and was not helping town discussion. I wouldn't have been scared of him ferreting out mafia as scum at all.
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On July 16 2013 09:35 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:30 hzflank wrote:On July 16 2013 09:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Koshi looked scummy to a lot of people. I imagine some hero vig tried to make big plays. Rainbows also looked scummy to a lot of people. How do you know that the scum did not kill Koshi? Its not likely because scum do not want to NK people that have a high chance to be lynched.
Do you think that Koshi had a much higher chance of being lynched than Rainbows? I have Rainbows as more scummy as Koshi, as you can see in my pre day post (2 scum, 2 most scummy neutral, 2 most town).
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Chrom also had Rainbows as more scum in his pre-day post. And Sponge has Chrom as town.
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On July 16 2013 09:36 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:35 Onegu wrote:On July 16 2013 09:30 hzflank wrote:On July 16 2013 09:29 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Koshi looked scummy to a lot of people. I imagine some hero vig tried to make big plays. Rainbows also looked scummy to a lot of people. How do you know that the scum did not kill Koshi? Its not likely because scum do not want to NK people that have a high chance to be lynched. Do you think that Koshi had a much higher chance of being lynched than Rainbows? I have Rainbows as more scummy as Koshi, as you can see in my pre day post (2 scum, 2 most scummy neutral, 2 most town).
Well we were all wrong, in any case. They were both town.
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On July 16 2013 09:37 hzflank wrote: Chrom also had Rainbows as more scum in his pre-day post. And Sponge has Chrom as town.
Because I have to be in lock-step with all of my town reads on their scum reads, right?
Where's your head at right now, hz? You're not making sense.
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When I got over the shock of seeing the second kill, I had no idea which kill was made by scum and which kill was made by the SK. You seemed to know.
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i might not be around tomorrow so im going to try to make up for it by being active the rest of tongiht, i have class+work+cramming for a calc exam wednesday on my list of things to do tomorrow, i might chime in here or there, but i want you to answer then at the bottom say go back to studying and stop using this as an excuse to not study. i dont have work wednesday so ill be active then for sure :D
i just wanted to throw that out after the night post
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well as i stated before i think the scum would try to break up the tribunal if there is one thats form by 3 townie so i think rainbow was kill by scum, what i dont understand is why rainbow , because he seems to be the least active and is just following along with what you guys decide.
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Nonono start with mine why is Chrom town? Why couldn't he be scum 4 me?
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On July 16 2013 09:41 hzflank wrote: When I got over the shock of seeing the second kill, I had no idea which kill was made by scum and which kill was made by the SK. You seemed to know.
Hey, I could be wrong. But based on my reads, that's what I figured. I'm not obsessing over it, because I don't think that information is relevant, is it?
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On July 16 2013 09:42 Nightcat99 wrote: well as i stated before i think the scum would try to break up the tribunal if there is one thats form by 3 townie so i think rainbow was kill by scum, what i dont understand is why rainbow , because he seems to be the least active and is just following along with what you guys decide.
It is completely WIFOM. We do not have enough information to know for sure which kill was made by whom.
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On July 16 2013 09:43 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:41 hzflank wrote: When I got over the shock of seeing the second kill, I had no idea which kill was made by scum and which kill was made by the SK. You seemed to know. Hey, I could be wrong. But based on my reads, that's what I figured. I'm not obsessing over it, because I don't think that information is relevant, is it?
Sure it's relevant. The first thing you thought was that Koshi was not killed by scum. It looks very much like you know who the scum killed.
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On July 16 2013 09:32 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Alright, Onegu. I guess I can start refuting your 'case' now. Where do you want me to begin?
I will post all my points in one big post in a few hours but for now, where ever you want to start is fine.
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On July 16 2013 09:42 Nightcat99 wrote: well as i stated before i think the scum would try to break up the tribunal if there is one thats form by 3 townie so i think rainbow was kill by scum, what i dont understand is why rainbow , because he seems to be the least active and is just following along with what you guys decide.
Yeah, it's a weird NK target. I'm not complaining though, because I didn't die and they hit sort of a Yolo Townie that a couple people were apparently suspicious of. Honestly, I think Onegu's pressure on my last night (and my restraint in answering him) might have saved me.
Onegu's pressure might have convinced the Mafia team that I could be lynched tomorrow (3 mafia votes tagging along to Onegu's nomination). So I guess, weirdly... Thanks for the FoS, Onegu. And now how may I address your concern so we can get you on the right path?
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Did anyone else immediately think: I guess that guy was killed by scum and the other guy was killed by town/3p?
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On July 16 2013 09:43 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:41 hzflank wrote: When I got over the shock of seeing the second kill, I had no idea which kill was made by scum and which kill was made by the SK. You seemed to know. Hey, I could be wrong. But based on my reads, that's what I figured. I'm not obsessing over it, because I don't think that information is relevant, is it? HURRICANE SLAY ME FIRST
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On July 16 2013 09:46 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 09:43 Hurricane Sponge wrote:On July 16 2013 09:41 hzflank wrote: When I got over the shock of seeing the second kill, I had no idea which kill was made by scum and which kill was made by the SK. You seemed to know. Hey, I could be wrong. But based on my reads, that's what I figured. I'm not obsessing over it, because I don't think that information is relevant, is it? Sure it's relevant. The first thing you thought was that Koshi was not killed by scum. It looks very much like you know who the scum killed.
My scumdar is blinking pretty loudly now. HZ is pursuing a line of thought that isn't relevant to the thread (it's only relevant because he thinks I have knowledge of it). I explained myself fully, and he's not dropping it. This seems like scum trying to derail the thread.
hz, give me a reason that in a vacuum, knowledge of which faction took out whom is valuable, if you wish to pursue this issue.
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Because if you know which faction took out whom then you must be scum.
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On July 16 2013 09:51 hzflank wrote: Because if you know which faction took out whom then you must be scum.
And if I have a theory of it? What does that tell us?
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On July 16 2013 09:47 hzflank wrote: Did anyone else immediately think: I guess that guy was killed by scum and the other guy was killed by town/3p?
I did because I thought my case on koshi was tight, plus 3p has to kill everyone so they would target scum N1 followed by town to try to keep the numbers close to base set up, since we mislynched D1 going after scum is legit I think.
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