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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
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Alakaslam
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Onegu
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On July 15 2013 05:13 Rainbows wrote: I lied this describes Gotard better. My votes on super but I really dont care who's lynched between the two. #Scummylogic How come I got crushed for this but he hardly gets any heat? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 16 2013 01:14 Onegu wrote: How come I got crushed for this but he hardly gets any heat? I have noted that in the wall of text that I am preparing. He will get heat for it later. | ||
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hzflank
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hzflank
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+ Show Spoiler + Rainbows thinks that Gotard is scum. Koshi wants to lynch Super. Sponge thinks that Super is lurking. Koshi says that he is going to sheep as he has no targets to lynch (contradicts Koshi's earlier post about lynching Super?). Rainbows still wants to lynch Gotard. Sponge thinks that Gotard is scum. Sponge thinks that Super is scum. Super thinks that Kirby might be 3P. Umasi votes for Super. Super thinks that hzflank and Xzavier are scum. Hzflank thinks Gotard is scummy. Umasi thinks that Xzav is town. Hzflank thinks that Super is scum. Chrom thinks that Umasi is town. Chrom thinks that Kirby and Xzavier are scum. Umasi thinks that Super is scum. Chrom makes case on Kirby. Umasi thinks that Super is scum, Kirby second scum. Sponge thinks that Kirby is scum. Hzflank makes case against Super. Chrom begins to defend Super. Koshi votes for Super. Umasi thinks that Super is scum. Umasi does not think Gotard should be lynched today. Hzflank thinks Kirby is scum, but less chance than Super. Rainbows thinks Gotard is scum. Umasi wants the wagons to be between Kirby and Super. Sponge thinks that Kirby, Super and Gotard all look scummy. Koshi thinks the same, but Super most scum. Xzavier thinks that Super is scum. Koshi defends Kirby. Gotatd votes for Kirby. Umasi says that he is willing to switch his vote to Kirby (worded a lot like he is going to switch his vote once Kirby comes back?) Koshi is the first to mention consolidating votes, says that both Super and Kirby are perfect targets (perfect targets?!). Koshi repeats that we should pick one of those 2 targets. Koshi thinks that Super is more likely scum. Kirby thinks Gotard is scum. Kirby thinks Xzavier is scum. Stim thinks that Koshi is scum. Rainbows thinks Gotard is scum but unvotes him as he thinks that Super is the better lynch. Koshi wants people to switch their votes to Super. Umasi is unsure of whether he wants to lynch Super or Kirby. Super thinks that Kirby is town. Rainbows thinks that Super is scum. Xzavier votes for Super. Rainbows does not care which of Super and Kirby are lynched. Rainbows thinks that Gotard is scum, but is null on Kirby and Super. Stim thinks that Kirby is scum. Nightcat votes for Kirby. Current situation: Kirby looks like he will be lynched. Umasi considers switching his vote to Kirby. Xzavier is willing to switch his vote to secure a lynch. Rainbows thinks that Kirby is town, even though he is currently voting for him. Rainbows repeats that he thinks Kirby is town, and adds that he thinks Super might be town also. Umasi thinks Super is scum. Rainbows thinks that Kirby is town. Sponge unvotes Kirby, he thinks Kirby and Super are both scum but does not want anyone else putting the hammer vote on kirby (What?!). Rainbows says that he is going to vote for Super, putting Super in the lead. Sponge asks to work together with Umasi and Rainbows, as he thinks that together they control the lynch. Rainbows thinks that Super and Kirby should both be lynched on days 1 and 2. (Even though he thinks that they are both town?) Umasi and Rainbows have both agreed to work with Sponge. Umasi says that Super and Kirby are both acceptable lynch targets. Rainbows wants to lynch Gotard. Sponge wants to lynch Super. Nightcat vores for Super. At this point Super is likely to be lynched. Umasi wants Super to be lynched. Sponge wants Kirby to be lynched. Rainbows wants Kirby and Super to role claim. Umasi does not want to lynch Gotard. Sponge, Umasi, Rainbows and Nightcat all vote for Kirby. Kirby is lynched. Will do quick conclusion now with more in depth to follow: There was far too much sheeping. Half the town was completely willing to just sheep, and this started a long time before the deadline. Sponge basically controlled 4 votes in the end. There are some glaring inconsistencies that I need to question individuals about. Which will follow in an hour or so. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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On July 15 2013 23:46 Nightcat99 wrote: I just woke up but i have a question i been thinking about. Regardless that there is a mislynch, do you think the scum will kill one of the tribunal tonight to ensure that theres less voting power tonight, and if none of them die tonight does that make a the tribunal suspicious? For the record, the Tribunal is not a persistent entity. It was formed based on the flexible votes for the Day. Tomorrow, if it is necessary, it will be composed of an entirely new set of people (which may or may not include me). The group is valuable because it has vote mobility. It was necessary because Town needed to ensure a lynch. | ||
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Onegu
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On July 16 2013 01:43 hzflank wrote: Play by play starting at Rainbows case on Gotard. I will spoiler the first part because it is a wall of text, but I do think that is an interesting read. + Show Spoiler + Rainbows thinks that Gotard is scum. Koshi wants to lynch Super. Sponge thinks that Super is lurking. Koshi says that he is going to sheep as he has no targets to lynch (contradicts Koshi's earlier post about lynching Super?). Rainbows still wants to lynch Gotard. Sponge thinks that Gotard is scum. Sponge thinks that Super is scum. Super thinks that Kirby might be 3P. Umasi votes for Super. Super thinks that hzflank and Xzavier are scum. Hzflank thinks Gotard is scummy. Umasi thinks that Xzav is town. Hzflank thinks that Super is scum. Chrom thinks that Umasi is town. Chrom thinks that Kirby and Xzavier are scum. Umasi thinks that Super is scum. Chrom makes case on Kirby. Umasi thinks that Super is scum, Kirby second scum. Sponge thinks that Kirby is scum. Hzflank makes case against Super. Chrom begins to defend Super. Koshi votes for Super. Umasi thinks that Super is scum. Umasi does not think Gotard should be lynched today. Hzflank thinks Kirby is scum, but less chance than Super. Rainbows thinks Gotard is scum. Umasi wants the wagons to be between Kirby and Super. Sponge thinks that Kirby, Super and Gotard all look scummy. Koshi thinks the same, but Super most scum. Xzavier thinks that Super is scum. Koshi defends Kirby. Gotatd votes for Kirby. Umasi says that he is willing to switch his vote to Kirby (worded a lot like he is going to switch his vote once Kirby comes back?) Koshi is the first to mention consolidating votes, says that both Super and Kirby are perfect targets (perfect targets?!). Koshi repeats that we should pick one of those 2 targets. Koshi thinks that Super is more likely scum. Kirby thinks Gotard is scum. Kirby thinks Xzavier is scum. Stim thinks that Koshi is scum. Rainbows thinks Gotard is scum but unvotes him as he thinks that Super is the better lynch. Koshi wants people to switch their votes to Super. Umasi is unsure of whether he wants to lynch Super or Kirby. Super thinks that Kirby is town. Rainbows thinks that Super is scum. Xzavier votes for Super. Rainbows does not care which of Super and Kirby are lynched. Rainbows thinks that Gotard is scum, but is null on Kirby and Super. Stim thinks that Kirby is scum. Nightcat votes for Kirby. Current situation: Kirby looks like he will be lynched. Umasi considers switching his vote to Kirby. Xzavier is willing to switch his vote to secure a lynch. Rainbows thinks that Kirby is town, even though he is currently voting for him. Rainbows repeats that he thinks Kirby is town, and adds that he thinks Super might be town also. Umasi thinks Super is scum. Rainbows thinks that Kirby is town. Sponge unvotes Kirby, he thinks Kirby and Super are both scum but does not want anyone else putting the hammer vote on kirby (What?!). Rainbows says that he is going to vote for Super, putting Super in the lead. Sponge asks to work together with Umasi and Rainbows, as he thinks that together they control the lynch. Rainbows thinks that Super and Kirby should both be lynched on days 1 and 2. (Even though he thinks that they are both town?) Umasi and Rainbows have both agreed to work with Sponge. Umasi says that Super and Kirby are both acceptable lynch targets. Rainbows wants to lynch Gotard. Sponge wants to lynch Super. Nightcat vores for Super. At this point Super is likely to be lynched. Umasi wants Super to be lynched. Sponge wants Kirby to be lynched. Rainbows wants Kirby and Super to role claim. Umasi does not want to lynch Gotard. Sponge, Umasi, Rainbows and Nightcat all vote for Kirby. Kirby is lynched. Will do quick conclusion now with more in depth to follow: There was far too much sheeping. Half the town was completely willing to just sheep, and this started a long time before the deadline. Sponge basically controlled 4 votes in the end. There are some glaring inconsistencies that I need to question individuals about. Which will follow in an hour or so. I need to take a closer look at umasi, but reading the thread the first time he felt like trusting town. | ||
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Onegu
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On July 16 2013 01:53 Hurricane Sponge wrote: For the record, the Tribunal is not a persistent entity. It was formed based on the flexible votes for the Day. Tomorrow, if it is necessary, it will be composed of an entirely new set of people (which may or may not include me). The group is valuable because it has vote mobility. It was necessary because Town needed to ensure a lynch. The problem is you mostly controled it, and didnt let it move of of what looks like 2 town wagons. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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On July 16 2013 01:43 hzflank wrote: Play by play starting at Rainbows case on Gotard. I will spoiler the first part because it is a wall of text, but I do think that is an interesting read. + Show Spoiler + Rainbows thinks that Gotard is scum. Koshi wants to lynch Super. Sponge thinks that Super is lurking. Koshi says that he is going to sheep as he has no targets to lynch (contradicts Koshi's earlier post about lynching Super?). Rainbows still wants to lynch Gotard. Sponge thinks that Gotard is scum. Sponge thinks that Super is scum. Super thinks that Kirby might be 3P. Umasi votes for Super. Super thinks that hzflank and Xzavier are scum. Hzflank thinks Gotard is scummy. Umasi thinks that Xzav is town. Hzflank thinks that Super is scum. Chrom thinks that Umasi is town. Chrom thinks that Kirby and Xzavier are scum. Umasi thinks that Super is scum. Chrom makes case on Kirby. Umasi thinks that Super is scum, Kirby second scum. Sponge thinks that Kirby is scum. Hzflank makes case against Super. Chrom begins to defend Super. Koshi votes for Super. Umasi thinks that Super is scum. Umasi does not think Gotard should be lynched today. Hzflank thinks Kirby is scum, but less chance than Super. Rainbows thinks Gotard is scum. Umasi wants the wagons to be between Kirby and Super. Sponge thinks that Kirby, Super and Gotard all look scummy. Koshi thinks the same, but Super most scum. Xzavier thinks that Super is scum. Koshi defends Kirby. Gotatd votes for Kirby. Umasi says that he is willing to switch his vote to Kirby (worded a lot like he is going to switch his vote once Kirby comes back?) Koshi is the first to mention consolidating votes, says that both Super and Kirby are perfect targets (perfect targets?!). Koshi repeats that we should pick one of those 2 targets. Koshi thinks that Super is more likely scum. Kirby thinks Gotard is scum. Kirby thinks Xzavier is scum. Stim thinks that Koshi is scum. Rainbows thinks Gotard is scum but unvotes him as he thinks that Super is the better lynch. Koshi wants people to switch their votes to Super. Umasi is unsure of whether he wants to lynch Super or Kirby. Super thinks that Kirby is town. Rainbows thinks that Super is scum. Xzavier votes for Super. Rainbows does not care which of Super and Kirby are lynched. Rainbows thinks that Gotard is scum, but is null on Kirby and Super. Stim thinks that Kirby is scum. Nightcat votes for Kirby. Current situation: Kirby looks like he will be lynched. Umasi considers switching his vote to Kirby. Xzavier is willing to switch his vote to secure a lynch. Rainbows thinks that Kirby is town, even though he is currently voting for him. Rainbows repeats that he thinks Kirby is town, and adds that he thinks Super might be town also. Umasi thinks Super is scum. Rainbows thinks that Kirby is town. Sponge unvotes Kirby, he thinks Kirby and Super are both scum but does not want anyone else putting the hammer vote on kirby (What?!). I thought it was valuable for Town to control the lynch. I wanted to undermine the mafia's ability to switch votes at the last second. Rainbows says that he is going to vote for Super, putting Super in the lead. Sponge asks to work together with Umasi and Rainbows, as he thinks that together they control the lynch. Rainbows thinks that Super and Kirby should both be lynched on days 1 and 2. (Even though he thinks that they are both town?) Umasi and Rainbows have both agreed to work with Sponge. Umasi says that Super and Kirby are both acceptable lynch targets. Rainbows wants to lynch Gotard. Sponge wants to lynch Super. Nightcat vores for Super. At this point Super is likely to be lynched. Umasi wants Super to be lynched. Sponge wants Kirby to be lynched. I had already established that I (as well as all of the members of the council) was okay with either a Super or Kirby (or lurker) lynch, as long as there WAS a lynch. Rainbows wants Kirby and Super to role claim. Umasi does not want to lynch Gotard. Sponge, Umasi, Rainbows and Nightcat all vote for Kirby. Kirby is lynched. Will do quick conclusion now with more in depth to follow: There was far too much sheeping. Half the town was completely willing to just sheep, and this started a long time before the deadline. Sponge basically controlled 4 votes in the end. There are some glaring inconsistencies that I need to question individuals about. Which will follow in an hour or so. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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On July 16 2013 01:57 Onegu wrote: The problem is you mostly controled it, and didnt let it move of of what looks like 2 town wagons. I'm going to reply to your train-of-thought during the daytime. For now, I want to see you scumhunt (even if that target is me.) | ||
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Onegu
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On July 16 2013 01:58 Hurricane Sponge wrote: I'm going to reply to your train-of-thought during the daytime. For now, I want to see you scumhunt (even if that target is me.) Are you caught up on the thread? | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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On July 16 2013 01:14 Onegu wrote: How come I got crushed for this but he hardly gets any heat? When did you get crushed for this? In another game? There's a significant difference between Majority lynch and Plurality lynch. One of which is that people have to be more flexible and accepting of multiple lynch options to ensure we avoid a No Lynch. | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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Yes, I was reading it all last night. I didn't want to interrupt you or Alakaslam, because I wanted your thoughts to develop organically. I have responses to you for Day 2, and I expect we will have a very interesting conversation. | ||
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Onegu
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Hurricane Sponge
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On July 16 2013 02:01 Onegu wrote: Last newbie game as scum I said I didnt care who was lynched day 1. Last newbie game was plurality. This is majority. It is a significant difference. | ||
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Chromatically
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Its one thing to consolidate if necessary, its another to not care at all | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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On July 16 2013 02:04 Chromatically wrote: No, people who have no preference either way are still very scummy. Its one thing to consolidate if necessary, its another to not care at all I'll put it another way: Sometimes, (especially late in the day) Townies can care more about making sure a lynch happens (since there are so many entrenched votes) more than making giant cases on why their #1 scum read should be lynched over their #2. | ||
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hzflank
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How did you get from Super being scummy to wanting to sheep because you have 'no targets that need to get lynched now'? On July 14 2013 02:42 Koshi wrote: Super scummy is putting words in my mouth. I don't like that. On July 14 2013 04:14 Koshi wrote: I would sheep. I have no targets that need to get lynched now. Why did Kirby and Super both look like perfect targets? What specifically made Kirby become a bad target when you later defended him? How did you get such a solid town-read on Sponge and Umasi that you were willing to just sheep them? You were so sure of your town reads that you even encouraged others to sheep them. On July 15 2013 00:10 Koshi wrote: Guys, we need to get our shit together if we want a lynch. Don't forget we need at least 7 people on 1 guy. Both look perfect targets, let's try to come to a consensus now so that the more inactive people can follow us if they pop in. I would say that Sponge and Umasi try to work this out and they give us final target? It seems that Chroma made the kirby case and that hzflank made the super case. Me, StiM and all others should FOLLOW lead. With more than seven hours until the deadline, why should everyone need to pick one of two targets? On July 15 2013 00:13 Koshi wrote: When you follow lead you should also give own reasoning obviously. But at this point we just need to pick one of these 2 targets. | ||
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