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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 15 2013 13:49 GMT
#1221
Onega, What is your opinion on StiMaDDict?
Ignore his initial drama, did he look capable at playing this game?
I had a good night of sleep.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 15 2013 14:06 GMT
#1222
Let me read first, I can give opinions after that.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 15 2013 14:14 GMT
#1223
On July 15 2013 22:49 Koshi wrote:
Onega, What is your opinion on StiMaDDict?
Ignore his initial drama, did he look capable at playing this game?


I would have wanted to lynch him, I really didnt like his filter. That being said he/ I am VT(which I hate that he claimed)

Afterward after the lie he played ok, I do not know why he left though I was never told nor will I ask.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 15 2013 14:17 GMT
#1224
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2013 19:11 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I am from Belgium guys, This game started at 12PM and I was tired after a working week.
I read the thread once now and my initial (this is without using filters, just reading all the posts) is that H.Sponge build enough town kred to not get lynched day 1 no matter what. I loved his opening post, and I loved his defense on that post. Even if he is scum, he has been very helpful to town, and every town should go and read that opening post.
Scum reads are on Umasi and Chroma.
Umasi because his entire early posts were just sucking up to H.Sponge, which is just not useful at all, H. Sponge clearly doesn't need to be defended like this. Another thing I dont like about Umasi is him trying to redirect the thread twice for a Superfluous train on a rather useless moment. Superfluous entered the thread with a bad post, but went afk after, which is not a clear scumread. Not enough the get a train going, and make the rest of the day useless.
Chroma is currently tunneling so heavily on StiMaDDict. The guy is afk, treat him as an afk bad town till he comes back. It is a good thing to spark some conversation around StiMaDDict, but at this point I feel that Chroma is derailing more than necessarily. It's just tunneling into oblivion.

I start filtering now:
Reading Chroma his filter I get a serious scum vibe. Post like this:
On July 13 2013 11:39 Chromatically wrote:
Also just noticed that Sponge hasn't given a single opinion on anyone all game after saying that he wanted people to judge him on his scumhunting, interesting.

This is just being a jack-ass, at least it would be if you say things like this in real life. In mafia it is trying to put suspicion onto somebody without saying anything. I haven't crosschecked this message with the referring Sponge message but it feels dirty. What was your intention while typing this down Chromo?
@ Chromo, Do you agree that this is a very suspicious post? And explain to me why it is "interesting" that Sponge likes to have interaction on his scumreads while playing this game?

Reading Umasi his filter after the Chroma filter makes me want to lynch one of these 2 guys. Umasi and Chroma are either bromancing it up on the stimaddict lynch, or they are both scum. Here is Umasi his game till now:
--> Defend Sponge while pushing lynch on Superfluous.
--> Argue with Sponge about Chroma while pusing a lynch on StiMaDDict.



First thing I have already said hurricane should not get town cred for that post, I would be MORE likely to post that as scum.
The second part you are correct the first time, there is no way that post of chromes is a scum tell.

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On July 14 2013 07:11 Koshi wrote:
@hzflank
That is a really impressing post. I would give you a cookie but I will give you this instead.
##Vote: Superfluous

I also like the kirby case but kirby hasn't posted in the last 20 hours. So I am reluctant to put my vote on him. Kirby has proven that he can make big analytical posts or at least is willing to do so. He has proven that he can pick up on 1 scummier sentence in a big convincing pro town post. So I would like to give kirby the chance to do this before I put my vote on him.



I have already said I think super is bad town, I think you and hurricane are starting to make sure the lynch wagons stay on 2 town.

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On July 14 2013 08:07 Koshi wrote:
I am not leaning Town on kirby AT ALL. But I am saying that I like the Super case much better. If there was a lynch right now I would go:
1) Super
2) kirby
3) Gotard
4) no lynch unless everybody really wants Stim.


Again keep wagons the same, but you are also ok with a no lynch?


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On July 15 2013 00:10 Koshi wrote:
Guys, we need to get our shit together if we want a lynch. Don't forget we need at least 7 people on 1 guy. Both look perfect targets, let's try to come to a consensus now so that the more inactive people can follow us if they pop in.

I would say that Sponge and Umasi try to work this out and they give us final target? It seems that Chroma made the kirby case and that hzflank made the super case.

Me, StiM and all others should FOLLOW lead.


Same things with wagons, give control to choose to hurricane and tell others to sheep him.

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On July 15 2013 03:39 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2013 03:30 Chromatically wrote:
On July 15 2013 03:28 Rainbows wrote:
On July 15 2013 03:19 Chromatically wrote:
On July 15 2013 03:16 Rainbows wrote:
On July 15 2013 03:15 StiMaDDict wrote:
@Rainbow: Explain your unvote on Gotard please. Has your scumread on him changed or do you feel as if you need to change your vote due to majority voting system.


I think he's scum. Just not the scum we're lynching today.

Since he's voting JrKirby, I feel like Super is the better lynch.

You're voting purely based on preflip associations, which you just said were bad?


Both dudes on the block are scummy, Super just has less redeeming qualities.Pre-flip associations are bad. Very bad. Though as a mortal, I do bad things all the time.

The problem I'm facing is figuring out which wagon is scum. My town reads are all over these two guys (and if my town reads are scum, GJ dudes, fuck these bad townies). Super just makes big paragraphs and has a ton of excuses blah blah blah. I have no qualms with lynching either of these guys, I may as well spin around and play pin-the-tail-on-the-scum at this point.

Hurray for Day 1's, the only reason I'm rather 'meh' as town is because I have no information from the start. As scum I know all the things and am never wrong because my objective is to kill town. Fun Fact: I love playing scum :p


Tell me your own reasoning, why is Super scum?

You too, Koshi,

I have no interest in doing so. I am also bored with the fact that we need to keep making our own giant posts to get completely ignored by your tunneling on Kirby.
If you don't agree with me that both players look scummy atm but Kirby might be easier to read in Day 2 because he posts more and is more aggressive. Then we don't have much to discuss.

If there are 6 votes on Kirby expect me to give the 7th.
But for now I believe Super is the best choice.


I just hate this, when someone asks give your points.


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On July 15 2013 04:01 Koshi wrote:
Staying alive is not important at all. Vanilla Townies are here to post as much as they can, make as much sense as they can, do as much scumreading as they can. And then die with full glory in the night.


Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 06:15 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2013 06:13 Umasi wrote:
On July 15 2013 06:12 Koshi wrote:
Chrom is tunneling like a madman. He doesn't accept anything else than kirby is scum.
If you say not-kirby is scum, Chrom says: "WHY THE FUCK? MAKE A CASE"
If you say kirby is scum, Crom says NOTHING

Which is bullshit. Look at everybody that says kirby is scum, Chrom is just ignoring them.


Koshi, that's useless
Of course he ignores them if they say Kirby is scum, he doesn't need to convince them -.-

lol? look at any other game. Sheeping is not allowed. My last post in the Nuclear Mafia game is " Guys I will follow you on X because I believe you". The answer that I got "Don't sheep, make your case if you follow".


Didnt you already say you were ok with sheeping this game, And again yes they should make thier own reads, but if they are voteing on something I feel strongly about it isnt my job to force them, if you feel the other wagon is correct its your job.

Do you really believe this? If I am dead I cannot find scum, cannot vote for scum. If I am alive as VT and playing a strong game I possibly force a KP on me instead of someone they think is a blue.


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On July 15 2013 07:46 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2013 07:43 Chromatically wrote:
I would consolidate if it is literally the only way to avoid a no lynch.

THIS IS BULLSHIT


TOWN WE ARE GOING TO GET SO MUCH INFO WHEN WE LYNCH


THERE ARE ONLY 3 FUCKING SCUMS. A MISSLYNCH IS NOT BAD.




ARE YOU PEOPLE KIDDING ME? WE ALL AGREED THAT LYNCHING WAS GOOD. AND NOW CHROM WANTS TO PROTECT SUPER SO MADLY THAT A NO LYNHC IS OK?



WE AGREE THAT THEY BOTH LOOK SCUM. FUCK THIS


Just lol, besides being wrong, remember that whole thing about being a jackass

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On July 15 2013 08:06 Koshi wrote:
I am just going to trow this out here. But with a pending superfluous lynch. Do we want to see superfluous roleclaim? If he claims blue we might want to let him stay alive? It is up to scum to kill him tonight? Or not?

I realize fluff is fluff but maybe we want this to happen?


Why do we want this to happen? What good comes from his claim here it is so much worse that he lived and scum would know he was blue.


Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 08:50 Koshi wrote:
#Unvote
#Koshi


You just blamed kirby for being a marytr why are you voteing yourself?

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On July 15 2013 09:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2013 08:59 Umasi wrote:
On July 15 2013 08:58 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, Gotard is an excellent lynch target tomorrow. I think chrom should only be lynched after a scum is found, but maybe checked by cop.

I have less of a feeling about koshi, umasi, super.

Xzavier is decent, but not the best lynch.

Chrom and super should be lynched together should one of them be scum by flip or cop check.

That's the best I got, GG guys.


KIRBY
WHY
DID
YOU
NOT
POST
EARLIER
FUCK
DAMMIT
SHIT
TOO LATE NOW
STAY THE COURSE

IF YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT HE WAS USEFUL THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME I QUESTION YOUR SANITY


Wait didnt you have a scum read on him for a long time so it obv wasnt the entire game...

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 11:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2013 11:07 Xzavier wrote:
let me specify, thoughts on the interactions of the circle beyond the core three.

The circle was something silly. I have no reads there. They did nothing, except made themselves special.


Really no reads? You let them have power and told people to sheep them.


Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 11:44 Koshi wrote:
On July 15 2013 11:40 Xzavier wrote:
but they were all my top townreads, im interested in the people who joined in to sheep.

The counsil were considered townreads. It isn't a problem to sheep your townreads when you have a hard time following.


Earlier you say dont sheep, now sheep, which is it?

It's funny, by morning light I don't like Koshi so much
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 15 2013 14:28 GMT
#1225
Onegu why did Chrom lie as town? I don't get it!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 15 2013 14:28 GMT
#1226
... when did I lie?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 15 2013 14:29 GMT
#1227
On July 15 2013 23:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Onegu why did Chrom lie as town? I don't get it!


Huh he lied where?
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Nightcat99
Profile Joined December 2010
United States239 Posts
July 15 2013 14:46 GMT
#1228
I just woke up but i have a question i been thinking about.

Regardless that there is a mislynch, do you think the scum will kill one of the tribunal tonight to ensure that theres less voting power tonight, and if none of them die tonight does that make a the tribunal suspicious?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 15 2013 14:52 GMT
#1229
Just caught up. Initial thoughts:

Chrom and Super are not both scum. That's the only really solid association that I see. Chrom started to heavily defend Super 8 hours before the lynch, and that would never of happened if they were both scum. So to the people who are already making that association I suggest that you think along other lines.

I do not like that whole council thing. It made it too easy to sheep. It was too early in the game for players to have such solid town reads on each other. I almost feel like people tried to put a reverse-sheep on me where I was told I that I should not move my vote (I will vote as I think best, I do not need other people to give me reasons to vote).

First order of business is to be a play by play on the council thing.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 15 2013 14:54 GMT
#1230
On July 15 2013 23:46 Nightcat99 wrote:
I just woke up but i have a question i been thinking about.

Regardless that there is a mislynch, do you think the scum will kill one of the tribunal tonight to ensure that theres less voting power tonight, and if none of them die tonight does that make a the tribunal suspicious?


I suggest that we think of everyone as individuals and not units/teams. If we think of those 3 players as a team when they are not confirmed town then we risk giving the scum too much control over the game.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 15 2013 15:09 GMT
#1231
On July 15 2013 07:24 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@ Umasi
@ Rainbows


We three control this lynch. I think everyone else is entrenched (via either conviction or inactivity). If you agree, we need to establish some things between the three of us.

First, do we all agree that both of the current wagons are acceptable lynch candidates?


If you want to look at the "tribunal" have a gander at where it started. If he is NK Ill eat my tablet and post the pics.
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Nightcat99
Profile Joined December 2010
United States239 Posts
July 15 2013 15:13 GMT
#1232
sorry what does NK stand for?

I would love a picture of someone eating their tablet :D j/k
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 15 2013 15:17 GMT
#1233
Night kill
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 15 2013 15:18 GMT
#1234
On July 16 2013 00:09 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 07:24 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@ Umasi
@ Rainbows


We three control this lynch. I think everyone else is entrenched (via either conviction or inactivity). If you agree, we need to establish some things between the three of us.

First, do we all agree that both of the current wagons are acceptable lynch candidates?


If you want to look at the "tribunal" have a gander at where it started. If he is NK Ill eat my tablet and post the pics.


Actually I think it may have started when Rainbows makes his case against Gotard, as I will show shortly.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 15 2013 15:44 GMT
#1235
Sorry this is taking longer than I thought, it's going to be spammy but also interesting. Some players have been very inconstant.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 15 2013 15:45 GMT
#1236
On July 15 2013 15:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 09:42 Chromatically wrote:
On July 15 2013 09:41 Koshi wrote:
Chroma? You still here? Just tell me plain and simple why Super is scum
There was no interaction between Super and Kirby. Super should not have become more or less suspicious by the death of Kirby.

Why is Super scummy?

I haven't even read his filter, I'm just considering the possibility because he was the opposite wagon on a town lynch.

Lie

I thought you f-5ed Xzavier in his filter, back on page thirty-something, here you are on page fifty something claiming you haven't read it at all?!?!!

I may now rest in peace as one having caught up and thinking he has probably caught scum.

Ahhh......
Yeah. Goodnight, Umasi slam wakka wakka I'm tired

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 15 2013 15:50 GMT
#1237
lol I haven't read his filter since the flip
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 15 2013 15:50 GMT
#1238
On July 15 2013 23:52 hzflank wrote:
Just caught up. Initial thoughts:

Chrom and Super are not both scum. That's the only really solid association that I see. Chrom started to heavily defend Super 8 hours before the lynch, and that would never of happened if they were both scum. So to the people who are already making that association I suggest that you think along other lines.

I do not like that whole council thing. It made it too easy to sheep. It was too early in the game for players to have such solid town reads on each other. I almost feel like people tried to put a reverse-sheep on me where I was told I that I should not move my vote (I will vote as I think best, I do not need other people to give me reasons to vote).

First order of business is to be a play by play on the council thing.

That whole council shpeil is based on too much NMM XLIII meta anyway. How the hell was that formed day 1... It like begging for Svengali play.

Please google Svengali, outside of the context of mafia, if you don't get it. It's a French novel that I haven't read but that I know the gist of.

Umasi where is the Chezzy post? Need it buried in a GOOD case
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 15 2013 15:56 GMT
#1239
On July 15 2013 09:34 Koshi wrote:
Super is scum? SUPER? The guy that you just defended? You weren't advocating that Kirby was a better lynch, you were advocating that Super wasn't scummy.

What the fuck happened?



On July 15 2013 09:39 Chromatically wrote:
Kirby flipped town.

I defended Super primarily to get Kirby lynched. I still think that people were voting him for bad reasons, and the reasons I put up against the case are valid.

I'm not saying that he is scum, I haven't even read his filter since the flip. I am saying that it definitely deserves consideration now.

That association made it look otherwise. You're right though.

Why does it matter then? How is super at all scummy now, what in his filter has changed? XD that may be a case against him actually

Whatever I'm obviously tunneling
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
July 15 2013 15:59 GMT
#1240
Patience, patience.
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