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On July 17 2013 03:51 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Day 1 in a newbie game, I can certainly see someone moving their vote in confusion (or due to maliciousness) or making some other bad play regarding votes and it costing us a Day 1 lynch. Is it scummy? Maybe. Could a newbie make such a mistake? Absolutely.
The tribunal ensured SOMEBODY got bodied. It did its job. I doubt it will be needed as the days progress (less excuses to give re: confusion on voting rules), but it may. I won't rule it out. I probably wouldn't be the one leading it, though.
No because that is all you talked about for the first half of the day and on and off the whole day is there cant be a mislynch.
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On July 17 2013 03:54 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 03:52 Onegu wrote:
I know town wont cause a mislynch only scum. So if a mislynch is caused it will be by scum, if that happens we lynch the person who was set to be lynched and the person who caused the mislynch. The only time scum can do this is at lynch or lose, not day one. Haha what? You think every mislynch is driven by scum?
Sorry I meant no lynch.
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Again replace mis lymch with no lynch please.
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On July 17 2013 03:56 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 03:55 Onegu wrote:On July 17 2013 03:51 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Day 1 in a newbie game, I can certainly see someone moving their vote in confusion (or due to maliciousness) or making some other bad play regarding votes and it costing us a Day 1 lynch. Is it scummy? Maybe. Could a newbie make such a mistake? Absolutely.
The tribunal ensured SOMEBODY got bodied. It did its job. I doubt it will be needed as the days progress (less excuses to give re: confusion on voting rules), but it may. I won't rule it out. I probably wouldn't be the one leading it, though. No because that is all you talked about for the first half of the day and on and off the whole day is there cant be a mislynch. You have too much faith in newbies. And I think you mean 'No Lynch' when you say mislynch. Don't do that.
I have faith that if it came down to the last 10 minutes and there was one vote short on someone that one of the players who understands would ensure the lynch, and no I dont see newbie town last second vote switching to cause a no lynch.
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On July 17 2013 03:59 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 03:57 Umasi wrote:my thoughts~ The point of the tribunal was two things: A, to ensure a lynch went down, but B (and this is the big one  To hold people accountable for swapping off. I think that's what it was about, it held EVERYONE accountable by putting three people in the spotlight. Pretend Kirby was scum, and the three of us were like "Kirby is the one" so we put seven votes on him then last second, player X swaps off. Immediately he is who I focus for the second day. We made a big deal about ourselves hammering in the vote, but it also in turn locked the wagons in place. I disagree. Scum would never do that as you would get a no-lynch day 1 and then back to back scum lynches on days 2 and 3. Terrible move for scum.
Exactly, why didnt you bring this up day 1?
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On July 17 2013 04:01 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 03:59 hzflank wrote:On July 17 2013 03:57 Umasi wrote:my thoughts~ The point of the tribunal was two things: A, to ensure a lynch went down, but B (and this is the big one To hold people accountable for swapping off. I think that's what it was about, it held EVERYONE accountable by putting three people in the spotlight. Pretend Kirby was scum, and the three of us were like "Kirby is the one" so we put seven votes on him then last second, player X swaps off. Immediately he is who I focus for the second day. We made a big deal about ourselves hammering in the vote, but it also in turn locked the wagons in place. I disagree. Scum would never do that as you would get a no-lynch day 1 and then back to back scum lynches on days 2 and 3. Terrible move for scum. I don't even know what you were referring to. Of course scum wouldn't move off to give a no lynch, because we're holding them accountable for it, and they'd immediately be placed under suspicion.
But you dont have to have a tribunal for that, if the votes go on naturally they still cant vote switch, and we get mote info on how people voted, because there was a tribunal controling the lynch it is harder to analyse the votes.
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On July 17 2013 04:05 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 04:00 Chromatically wrote:
For the record, I will personally strangle anyone who sets up any sort of "tribunal" today.
Shouldn't be necessary if we all agree to hz's proposal that votes lock in an hour before deadline, and any movement thereafter is punishable by death.
Not really needed either all that needs to be done is makemsure everyone understands the rules, I want the full amount of time to comfirm my reads if need be.
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EVERYONE LISTEN! YOU WILL TYPE IN THE THREAD
I UNDERSTAND MAJORITY LYNCH
IF YOU DO NOT I WILL POST @ MESSAGES UNTIL YOU DO SO.
IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ASK! FIND OUT THERE ARE NO MORE EXCUSES YOU WILL BE LYNCHED IF YOU CAUSE A NO LYNCH
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I understand majority lynch
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Ok its 2:23 am here im sleeping see you in the morning.
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Because hurricane asked for 2 scum and 2 town reads.
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Most likely scum I had thay feeling from my first read through. Koshi I was wrong about, and my third scum was rainbows/gotard.
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On July 17 2013 09:49 Chromatically wrote:
And where did he ask for that? I only see "top two scum reads".
Maybe not gotard but before when he asked people he asked for 2 town and 2 scum, I just woke up and am going off the top of my head.
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On July 17 2013 09:57 Chromatically wrote:
Onegu, Sponge is still your top scum read, right?
Yeah until he defends himself fully at least, but still his whole arguememt on the tribunal, and then changed the subject to not let it happen again left a bad taste in my mouth.
@Hurricane really you think I scumslipped?
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On July 17 2013 09:58 Nightcat99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 09:45 hzflank wrote:
Thanks Nightcat. I agree with your points on Gotard and with most of your reasoning (timing of your vote, etc).
Out of interest, what do you think of Onegu? My opinion on Onegu is that he got way too much credit for stims blowup and VT claim, its like he walks into the game with a townie tag on his head and every one just accepted that. As far as i am concern, since we dont know the reason stim left, the blowup could still be a big scum play cause he feels that hes in danger. Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 15:57 Onegu wrote:
Scumteam
Hurricane
Koshi
Rainbow/gotard
I am really confidant in my hurricane read btw, he made sure he led the council and could make sure we never got off a town/town bandwagon. Alot of his posts just seem like he wants town cred, unlike last game. This is the only post i have foound on Onegu for scum reads, every thing else is just commenting on other peoples post and giving an opinion or saying if they are good or bad, Onegu made alot of post but not alot of reads. So i would like to ask for your new scum reads now because those picks are obviously outdated and atleast 50% incorrect.
New scum team
Hurricane
Gotard
Nightcat
Nightcat and gotard case posted today while you fools sleep. Really thats the only scum hunting post you found?
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First I am not going to make ALOT of reads I am looking but I am not going to post them all. Ill post my top reads until they flip or defend themselves well. There is little point in letting people sidestep pressure because I post multiple reads right after one another and my posts slowly get lost without a response.
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On July 17 2013 10:10 Nightcat99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 11:27 Onegu wrote:On July 16 2013 11:14 hzflank wrote:
Also, remember that Onegu is the new Stim. Stim was never fully cleared.
Onegu should be in the: No way in hell we are lynching him today category, but that does not make him likely town. Yes I should no way be heavy town Stim was scummy looking and this could be my 3rd or 4th scum game, and I like to be really active as scum. Oh and Nightcat is noob town. I am confused is that your case on me Onegu or am i missing something
Meta joke.
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On July 17 2013 10:09 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 10:06 Onegu wrote:
First I am not going to make ALOT of reads I am looking but I am not going to post them all. Ill post my top reads until they flip or defend themselves well. There is little point in letting people sidestep pressure because I post multiple reads right after one another and my posts slowly get lost without a response. I don't see any reason not to explain your read on Nightcat,
I said I will make a case on nightcat and gotard today.
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On July 17 2013 10:09 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 09:46 Onegu wrote:
Because hurricane asked for 2 scum and 2 town reads. Onegu do you have an explanation for this? Why did you post this?
Because I thought he did ask for both reads
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On July 16 2013 02:49 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 02:39 Onegu wrote:On July 16 2013 02:15 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Context from Page 13:
"Upon realizing the importance of identifying my own biases, I am hereby disclosing everything I think I know now. If you catch me treating you based on any of the following, ask me to support it with analysis from this game if you feel I'm being unfair or displaying bias: (quicklist)"
Onegu: no Town-side data available, as scum- willing to be generous with reads and assessments of fellow players, reacts poorly to pressure (concedes or makes ill-conceived claims in the interest of self-preservation), picks on lurkers as scum, hybrid activity level (active when able, often has legitimate real-world priorities, but always contributes to the game in meaningful ways)
Alakaslam: chaotic poster. High activity level. high amount of fluff posted. insecure with reads, but very capable of independent analysis. has a hard time getting other townies on board with cases / reluctant to post full cases. reacts quickly to developments in the thread. Personally, I have an extremely difficult time reading Alakaslam, so I will probably leave it to the rest of the players to help me figure him out. Good luck to anyone with alakaslam. And to be fair my coach mentioned concedeing in scum qt before I thought about it. Most of the book on you is moot anyway because you're in such a unique position: your entire meta (not counting potentially NWM) is scum, and I (as well as most of the town, i think) have a strong Town read on you/StiM right now. You're a blank slate, but it is comforting to me personally that you're not picking on lurkers or confirming people as 'noob town' as you did in your scum games.
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