Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV - Page 58

On July 15 2013 11:49 Alakaslam wrote:

Yeah it's only two pages, you don't have to do that to see that his case is weak.

On July 15 2013 11:48 Alakaslam wrote:

Wow wow wow WHAT?

On July 15 2013 11:52 Alakaslam wrote:

Yes... Or very little at least. He may have thought it was a case.


HOLY- THAT IS THE PROLEM YOU JUST SAID THE PROBLEM

To conclude, Super's priorities seem to be
1) Stay Alive
2) Find a person to vote for
3) Find justifications for voting

On July 14 2013 04:29 Superfluous wrote:
Going back through the posts, I'm a little alarmed at Hurricane Sponge's change of tone.In this post he disagrees with my opinion and says it casts suspicion on me, but doesnt state that I'm a huge scumread or anything. Here I interpreted his post as acknowledging that while we disagree, I was still trying to state my opinion and reasons for having that view. He then says some weird things here though. For instance, he says that he agrees with others' view of me who had semi-defended me, and in the same list puts me as the only scum read. I realize his view may have changed, but it strikes me especially considering in the second post I listed he acknowledged the possibility of a bandwagon on me just because of differing opinions. We also have a mutual disagreement on reads as well. I don't see how hzflank and xzavier have contributed substantially more than me. While knowing everyone's scum reads is good, I don't like it when people show up, say their scum reads, then expect other people to act on them.

As for Stim I think he's more likely bad town then mafia. Then again everyone else is saying the same thing, so could be mafia excuse for not lynching him.

On July 14 2013 04:37 Superfluous wrote:
Also, idk what is up with jrkirby. If there was a third party that'd be my guess for him, right now just null read I guess though. This is because his play has been somewhat erratic with no clear goal to me other than tunneling on Sponge, which didn't really do much. He strikes me as the type of player who could be dangerous late game for us because he seems hard to read. Im curious jrkirby, what has been your goal with your posts thus far?

On July 14 2013 13:31 Chromatically wrote:

Finding a person to vote for with reasoning is also town.

On July 15 2013 03:57 hzflank wrote:


I do not and will not agree with this, and I expect that most other people will not agree, either. When the game starts, at the beginning of day 1, the first priority for scum is to not get lynched. The first priority for town is to create an atmosphere in which good reads can be made. The second priority for town is to hunt for scum and try to strengthen their reads. Staying alive barely even registers on the list of things to do.

You admit that the first thing that you did was try to stay alive. I suppose you have to now as you cannot backtrack on that. It is my opinion that having such priorities makes you scum.

I do not want to tunnel you over a single point, so I will call that a big red mark and wait to see what you post before the deadline. I see no point in pressuring you directly on this issue as you are just going to claim philosophical differences, which I consider a weak defense when your philosophy is terrible.

So, you know how to look for mafia and are ready to smoke them out. But unfortunately, just knowing how to find mafia is not good enough. The other part of the equation is convincing the town that you’ve found them. While you may be correct, it takes more than your own vote to properly seal the deal and kill off the mafia.
As a townie, your number 1 priority is to establish your innocence.
Why? Establishing your innocence does three things:

1. It gives you a credible platform from which you can push your agenda
   
2. It reduces the mafia’s options for pushing their agenda - they can’t attack you without some serious consequences
   
3. It reduces the number of viable mafia candidates - if the town thinks you are innocent that’s one less person to worry about

On July 14 2013 05:14 Superfluous wrote:
Admittedly I am giving reads more to get off my back than to help us. I'm trying to get reads, but nothing is super strong so I'm not going to jump to lynch someone. I would vote for xzavier right now because he's my strongest read, but thats because we have to vote not because I feel he's 100% scum It really hurts us to lynch town day one, which is the same reason I brought up the idea of no lynching, and the same reason I'm trying to relieve pressure from myself.

That said ##Vote Xzavier Because I'm going to a concert tonight and may be up late/ sleep in so I don't want to forget to vote.

On July 14 2013 05:17 Umasi wrote:


You could also be trying to relieve pressure from yourself because you're scum /gasp

You literally just told us "I have not been scumhunting, I am just trying not to die"
Reminds me of Onegu.

In fact, that's EXACTLY what Onegu did
haha
I don't want to judge you based on his meta but still t.t

On July 14 2013 05:17 Umasi wrote:


You could also be trying to relieve pressure from yourself because you're scum /gasp

You literally just told us "I have not been scumhunting, I am just trying not to die"
Reminds me of Onegu.

In fact, that's EXACTLY what Onegu did
haha
I don't want to judge you based on his meta but still t.t

On July 15 2013 06:08 Chromatically wrote:

MY ENTIRE REASON FOR HIM BEING TOWN IS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT SUGGESTING THAT HE'S SCUM
EVERY ONE OF YOUR REASONS FOR HIM BEING SCUM IS JUST SAYING THAT HE'S BAD

What in particular makes you think that he is scum and not bad town?