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There was no interaction between Super and Kirby. Super should not have become more or less suspicious by the death of Kirby. Why is Super scummy? | ||
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On July 15 2013 09:42 Chromatically wrote: I haven't even read his filter, I'm just considering the possibility because he was the opposite wagon on a town lynch. You are smarter than that. YOU WERE the one that put them on the opposite wagon. You are making 0 sense in your last 3 posts. I want to keep going. Can you stay and talk? Just tell me. You must have something in your head. You gave me 5 reasons why super was good at scumreading. You must have read super his filter mutliple times. Tell me why Super or I am scum. Why did you post that? | ||
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On July 15 2013 09:49 Chromatically wrote: Why am I "smarter than that"? Weren't you just calling me "full of shit" a short bit ago? I actually think you are pretty smart. I was just screaming and kicking in the lynch so that I could get a good read on you and other people. Imagine how boring that last lynch would have been without the two of us. But I am currently having serious scum vibes coming from you. I am pretty sure that I am partially the reason why Kirby died. I played my role as lunatic in the start and people stopped listening to me. I tried to be more serious at the end of the lynch with my "Why Kirby is a better save than Super" but it was too late. But anyway, the only reason why I stopped being the lunatic is because I am 100% certain that your defense of Super is unholy. I hope that people will see the same reasoning. Also, with the green flip of kirby I should NEVER be seen as scum. Or I am that retard that wants to go 2 versus 11 with a bit of townkred from the Day 1 scum lynch. | ||
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These 3 posts after the modpost are really scummy. I think I should sleep now. You want to ask me something? | ||
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On July 15 2013 09:55 Koshi wrote: I actually think you are pretty smart. I was just screaming and kicking in the lynch so that I could get a good read on you and other people. Imagine how boring that last lynch would have been without the two of us. But I am currently having serious scum vibes coming from you. I am pretty sure that I am partially the reason why Kirby died. I played my role as lunatic in the start and people stopped listening to me. I tried to be more serious at the end of the lynch with my "Why Kirby is a better save than Super" but it was too late. But anyway, the only reason why I stopped being the lunatic is because I am 100% certain that your defense of Super is unholy. I hope that people will see the same reasoning. Also, with the green flip of kirby I should NEVER be seen as scum. Or I am that retard that wants to go 2 versus 11 with a bit of townkred from the Day 1 scum lynch. Actually this is a really bad assumption on my part. Partly because you are saying me or super are scum. You are saying somewhere that I am getting townkred for defending a townie so hard, but against another townie of course. But read my why is Kirby is a better safe than Super I have been saying things like that from the start. I should have made that post earlier and that was my mistake. Anyway I am off to bed. Its 3 am. This was fucking fun! | ||
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On July 15 2013 10:33 Alakaslam wrote: Please answer this quickly anyone who is active and knows Yes. This was Day 1 lynch. We are all crazy. | ||
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On July 15 2013 03:25 Chromatically wrote: This is blatantly untrue. Super actually posts scumreads with reasoning. Kirby does not. This one is also very interesting. You should look how Chrom 100% ignores the case Kirby made on Godart. This is when I got red light going off in my head. | ||
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On July 15 2013 10:56 Xzavier wrote: what in the living fuck is this??? your not confirmed town until your dead, scum might make a day1 bus plan JUST because people like you would think that, NEVER is a word that loses games in mafia, only the dead are confirmed. even with his green flip i fail to see where you get town cred? defending town makes you look a little better, but since scum can defend town too, it makes it pretty WIFOMy, everybody defends town and scum alike on accident occasionally, but its all WIFOM because there is no way to know for sure, so yes you gained an ants fart of town cred for defending him. you certainly are still on my list of candidates for day2 lynch, dont kid yourself. Yeah yeah it was a bit sentence. I agree. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 15 2013 03:25 Chromatically wrote: This is blatantly untrue. Super actually posts scumreads with reasoning. Kirby does not. Chrom defending super. MAJOR RED LIGHTS going off in my head. You can see that I started being really active in this lynch right after this post below. + Show Spoiler + On July 15 2013 05:31 Chromatically wrote: I have to rewrite this because my computer crashed, so I'm just going to c/p the parts that hz wrote (without the quotes from Super). Original case is here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227¤tpage=28#549 The Super Case This isn't scummy. I've already talked about this at length, but everyone's first priority is to stay alive. If there was suspicion on me, my first priority is to remove it. Ask yourself: what would you do if you walked into the thread and there was a case on you? You'd defend yourself. ? His reason makes sense. He didn't have time to do anything more than skim, so he called out someone he thought was lurking. Not particularly townie, but not at all scummy. This isn't scummy. Bad reads =/= scum, bad townies make bad reads all of the time. You say there's no town motivation, but there's really no scum motivation. Scum know that they won't get a mislynch on you, so they have no reason to scumread you. I didn't really understand what he was saying in that sentence. This isn't scummy. This is bad reasoning. Bad reasoning often comes from bad town. If anything, this is overzealous scumhunting. This, once again, isn't scummy. If I say that I want a scumread to post more, that does NOT mean that I'm planning on replying to them. All it means is that I want them to post their reads and reasoning more often. I'm probably NOT going to reply to them, most of the time, unless I have something in particular to say. I cannot understand why you think this is bad. Once again, bad logic =/= scum. Why would a scum player say that they were just giving reads in self defense? I'll admit that this is a decent point though. So almost all of hz's case is stuff that isn't scummy. When I look at Super's filter, I see someone who's at least trying to find scum and share their reads freely. This is way more than you can say for Kirby. So I am pushing Chrom now. I find his defense unholy and I want to see how far he wants to bring this defense. So I make a timeline that is not favoring superflous. But hey, this is why everybody has the superflous scumvibe. Look how Chrom counters this timeline. Chrom says I leave out all the reads Super makes on Xzavier and Hz + Show Spoiler + On July 15 2013 06:41 Chromatically wrote: I think it's misrepresenting Super's play to make it sound worse than it is. Now I admit that I don't really know why I was being the caps lock lunatic. But I looked up all the superflous posts that contained "reads" on Xzavier. I suggest you do the same. There are 3(?) total and 2 are quoted in this post. Look at the 5 reasons Chroms shakes out of his head. Read Xzav his log and he didn't do much but he made 1 big post, the post where he putted Superflous on top of his scumlist, but he talked about 3-4 people iirc. This post contained more than Super did, and on a moment Sponge knew this as well. I don't see why he forgot it during the lynch. + Show Spoiler + On July 15 2013 07:01 Chromatically wrote: You sure suddenly have very strong feelings about Super when he wasn't even a scumread not too long ago. There's no way you honestly believe that those are his only reasons. I control-F'd "Xzavier" in his filter and here's the reasons I found: 1) Xzav lurked before suddenly jumping on him 2) Xzav read him as scum 3) Xzav hasn't contributed 4) Xzav lurked and then sheeped thread sentiment by voting for him 5) Gut read I personally agree with points 3 and 4, that's why I don't like Xzav. I find it hard to believe that you honestly missed all of these posts. I want everybody to read super his log and READ what he says about xzavier. Then tell me why Chrom thinks Super is so special? Anyway, Chrom seems to be unaware that I am targetting him at this point. At this point I start to think that Super must be scum on top of the fact that Chrom is defending him without a good case, Chrom doesn't want to play this game with only 2 scums. Come on. How can Chrom blatantly ignore Kirby his case on Godart but find 5(!) reasons in the 2 quoted posts from superflous. + Show Spoiler + On July 15 2013 07:19 Chromatically wrote: Why are you suddenly defending Xzavier? We're discussing Super, not Xzavier. It doesn't even matter if his points are good (even though 3 and 4 are), it just matters that they exist and come from a town POV. Super has 7 posts about Xzav. Here are the two: | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:07 Xzavier wrote: let me specify, thoughts on the interactions of the circle beyond the core three. The circle was something silly. I have no reads there. They did nothing, except made themselves special. | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:38 Umasi wrote: guys, why is chrom scum aside from leading a mislynch. Give me the reads that superflous did on Xzavier. Please. | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:40 Xzavier wrote: but they were all my top townreads, im interested in the people who joined in to sheep. The counsil were considered townreads. It isn't a problem to sheep your townreads when you have a hard time following. | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:43 Umasi wrote: haha we absolutely did nothing but make ourselves special do you think that we were like "oh look at us we're the tribunal so cool?" what is your perception of us, third graders in an inclusive pod? it was just chrom telling us "we are in control of this lynch because we're not tunneling either side two hard, coordinate our votes to avoid a no lynch" aside from your lack of reads on the CIRCLE, what are your reads of Sponge, Rainbows and me? I think Sponge is town, pretty sure. I think Rainbows is town, not as sure. STOP TELLING ME THINGS TO DO and do what I asked you to do for once. | ||
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Ask anybody of the people that sheeped. That is the reason they will give you. I don't see a problem. | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:49 Alakaslam wrote: Yeah it's only two pages, you don't have to do that to see that his case is weak. Superflous has NO CASE on Xzavier. You agree with that right? | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:51 Umasi wrote: I think he's townier than a lot of people give him credit for, but whatever. my reads are apparently worth jack in the face of mighty Alakaslam. by the way you are literally trying to build post flip cred by saying "oh I think kirby's town. Wait, he's town? WHAT A COINKIDINK!" I have a hard time believing that you'd just enter the thread and be like "huh the games been going on, and I'm in it. That means someone was modkilled, or requested a replacement, which will occur at the end of the day." "huh it must be the middle of the day." I'd assume that the first thing you did was LOOK AT THE RESULT. Can you tell me what you think of the case of super versus Xzavier? Like chrom said ctrl+f in super his posts. | ||
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On July 15 2013 11:52 Alakaslam wrote: Yes... Or very little at least. He may have thought it was a case. HOLY- THAT IS THE PROLEM YOU JUST SAID THE PROBLEM I know that it is very bad that they did that. But in this case it is not a scumread. We were posting like madman, they were overwhelmed and decided to follow the council that consisted out of everybody his townreads. Hz, and I were making cases to save kirby and to lynch super. Chroma was doing the opposite. Counsil decided that this was enough and added jack shit. Eventually they decided on Kirby lynch. | ||
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