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The incase i die post, My living will: i actually enjoy this part very much, i am such a sick person lol.
First thing first, Town reads umasi , chorm and sponge in that order, that being said , if none of them die tongiht, i am calling bull shit and i am throwing this town read out of the window.
Super and Xavier, the two person that has been tunneling each other since day 1, imo they cannot both be scum, however i would say, SK, scum or SK, townie is a very high possibility. I would still lynch super and go from their, just because his recent post seem very pro town is not enough, His timing of the post is super scummy. His reasoning for the lurking was sick for a few days but he never mention anything about that during the only post at Night 1, where he stated his reason for lurking was, just didn't know he can post at night and didn't check. I still think he lurked till its too late for us to lynch him, plus he was suspicious from day 1 and that didn't change. I was going to point out Gotard's last few post but you guys already saw that and called it WIFOM
I like to point out that Xavier has been voting on a different person then the group till last second on both days, i dont know what this means but its something to look at.
Hzfrank, has a townie feel but it seems like hes holding back a little, i am going to call him null, i really got nothing on him.
Alakaslam, i think you are town but i will sheep you instantly if there is any kind of bandwagon going on you. Mainly because i am still unable to finish your filter in 1 session and half the time i have no idea what you are saying. Lynch for selfish reasons. That being said, if i die, DONT DONT DONT lynch him, you guys need to have fun.
and then there is Onegu, I am calling scum because i never brought the whole Stim blowup act, mainly cause i have done that before to get out of a lie and it worked like a charm. And if i am reading your filter, with FOS,(I hope i am using the FOS right) you don't give off any townie feel, that and i still think you slipped when you said you posted the case on me and gotard, then later change your mind and said you will post it.
This is the reason you gave for your slip up.
On July 17 2013 15:51 Onegu wrote:
PSA
I AM ALWAYS ON REALLY REALLY STRONG PAIN MEDS ALL THE TIME! Not useing this as a excuse but if I misspell a word or leave a word out its not a scum slip.
@Alakaslam
Do you understand majority lynch?
and this is the slip up
On July 17 2013 10:02 Onegu wrote:
New scum team
Hurricane
Gotard
Nightcat
Nightcat and gotard case posted today while you fools sleep. Really thats the only scum hunting post you found?
I mean i misspell all the time and i leave out words alot too, but which word did you misspell and what word can you add in here to make that sentence mean you will post it.
Nightcat and gotard case posted later today when you fools go to sleep.??
Nightcat and gotard case posting today while you fools sleep??
I am having trouble adding a word in here to change the meaning.
Obviously i am nitpicking on Onegu but its something to think about.
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I was kinda freaking out because my giant post was too long, but I guess you can just ignore that now...
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gg guys, not much I can do about that 
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I haven't read your guys reads and etc yet
I was roleblocked last night
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On July 19 2013 09:10 Umasi wrote:
I haven't read your guys reads and etc yet
I was roleblocked last night
but the roleblocker, gotard died yesterday, there is 2? geez this game is confusing, i would not have called hzflank a scum.....
and i wish , we knew who sponge checked, he shall have posted his checks since it was very likely he was going to die.
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Everybody check hurricane's filter. Chances are whatever his strongest townread is is because he checked them and got town back, I'm willing to bet we should trust that person. I'll be doing this myself too just making sure we all come to same conclusion. I retract my soft pressure on umasi. Hz didn't know he was gonna die,he jumped on my soft pressure and I bet he was gonna try to go for an umasi lynch tomorrow. Not just that, but he knew hurricane would die and could try to make the case that at least one person on tribunal was maf. I'd like to point out (could've been luck but take it as you will) that hzflank was my #2 scum read at the beginning of the game. Maybe this is some elaborate ruse by me to put him there at beginning but just want to make sure people are aware of that.
I am really weirded out that people are going on onegu. Maybe it was some super-weird meta play by stim but he claimed veteran and I'm inclined to trust him. Only way to confirm would be to check with detective (which we now can't) or shoot him if we had vigi which would be super-risky.
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On July 19 2013 09:15 Superfluous wrote:
Everybody check hurricane's filter. Chances are whatever his strongest townread is is because he checked them and got town back, I'm willing to bet we should trust that person. I'll be doing this myself too just making sure we all come to same conclusion. I retract my soft pressure on umasi. Hz didn't know he was gonna die,he jumped on my soft pressure and I bet he was gonna try to go for an umasi lynch tomorrow. Not just that, but he knew hurricane would die and could try to make the case that at least one person on tribunal was maf. I'd like to point out (could've been luck but take it as you will) that hzflank was my #2 scum read at the beginning of the game. Maybe this is some elaborate ruse by me to put him there at beginning but just want to make sure people are aware of that.
I am really weirded out that people are going on onegu. Maybe it was some super-weird meta play by stim but he claimed veteran and I'm inclined to trust him. Only way to confirm would be to check with detective (which we now can't) or shoot him if we had vigi which would be super-risky.
StiM never claimed vet.
....I think.
I thought we all got that he was vt, or vanilla town, out of that
right?
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On July 15 2013 05:22 StiMaDDict wrote:Well shit, my bad about deadline. I'm getting replaced after Day1. Here are my last thoughts. I don't think Gotard and jkirby can both be scum. Watch out for Koshi. Regardless of what jkirby or Superfluous flips, the possibility that they are both scum exists. One of 3 lurkers is likely a scum but no more than 1, imo. Chromatically and hzflank should work together and mafia won't stand a chance. Leave Umasi to do whatever he wants, he is great discussion leader even if he is crazy. I think that's all. Good luck town. I think town has the overall control of the game. I hope I was helpful in some way. + Show Spoiler +I don't know if it is good move to claim but I'm VT
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On July 19 2013 09:12 Nightcat99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 09:10 Umasi wrote:
I haven't read your guys reads and etc yet
I was roleblocked last night but the roleblocker, gotard died yesterday, there is 2? geez this game is confusing, i would not have called hzflank a scum..... and i wish , we knew who sponge checked, he shall have posted his checks since it was very likely he was going to die.
We have town jailer or umasi is lying. If umasi is telling the truth then he isn't sk or maf since two died last night. Time will come for town jailer to claim if they exist, but I don't think it's today. Sponge only had one night to check. Either his strongest read was based on check or he checked someone who died.
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On July 19 2013 08:58 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
So, we're about half an hour from the Night 2 end.
My reads based on the Gotard flip:
Xzavier's filter looks worst with the Gotard flip. He supports a Super lynch over a Gotard flip because: "atleast gotard you can get reads off of because he posts. Having a hardcore lurker at LYLO is a horrible nightmare." Not the most compelling argument ever, but I guess it's plausible as town. However, everyone else went hard after Gotard at some point, and after reading all the filters, Xzav's stuck out to me. Reading through it, both of his arguments were 'Yeah, gotard looks scummy, but here's a reason why he shouldn't be lynched: _________ '
Superfluous also seems scummy to me, which seems like a strange bedfellow for Xzavier. It's easy to pick on his post activity, but he also brings very little unique analysis to the table in his posts. There's still significant unnaccounted-for content in his filter (for example: I want him to respond to my question about what he was referencing during the Roleblock-ing conversation).
Continuing the theme, my third scummiest read is Umasi (somewhat by PoE, but his Day 2 / Night 2 doesn't help). He also catches some heat from Superfluous, but his filter when you control-f 'Gotard' doesn't look great. A lot of soft defense followed by softer FoS. He also flatly resisted moving onto Gotard Day 1 (like Xzavier did) when I floated the idea of ambushing Gotard or Koshi when we had the votes to make it happen.
Now, some of these reads seem incompatible with each other. It seems to pivot on Superfluous; both Xzavier and Umasi have targeted him with strong cases. But these three are what's left when I knock out the three guys I feel are 99.9% - 100.0% town, one who is probably Town (outside chance he's SK) but certainly not Mafia, and the other two who are fairly solidly Town by virtue of good activity levels and scumhunt-rich filters.
I don't see the value in specifically revealing my town reads right now, but if you've been following the game, the map I outlined may make sense to you. YMMV. Let me know if you absolutely have to know if someone is in some tier or something. I don't see the harm or benefits in revealing this information unsolicited, however.
One exception, because I feel it may surprise people who read my case on allah-kah-Slam:
I do not suspect Alakaslam is scum. And neither should any of you, if'n -yous- were paying attention tonight.
damn you sponge, i wanted to lynch him!!!
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Wait really..... fuck me.
This whole time I interpreted vt as veteren. I've always typed out vanilla town. Plus, I mean, what the hell is the point of claiming vanilla town. It does nothing except cause suspicion on you and scream out "I'm not a blue role!". I never thought someone would claim that.
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On July 19 2013 09:17 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 09:15 Superfluous wrote:
Everybody check hurricane's filter. Chances are whatever his strongest townread is is because he checked them and got town back, I'm willing to bet we should trust that person. I'll be doing this myself too just making sure we all come to same conclusion. I retract my soft pressure on umasi. Hz didn't know he was gonna die,he jumped on my soft pressure and I bet he was gonna try to go for an umasi lynch tomorrow. Not just that, but he knew hurricane would die and could try to make the case that at least one person on tribunal was maf. I'd like to point out (could've been luck but take it as you will) that hzflank was my #2 scum read at the beginning of the game. Maybe this is some elaborate ruse by me to put him there at beginning but just want to make sure people are aware of that.
I am really weirded out that people are going on onegu. Maybe it was some super-weird meta play by stim but he claimed veteran and I'm inclined to trust him. Only way to confirm would be to check with detective (which we now can't) or shoot him if we had vigi which would be super-risky. StiM never claimed vet. ....I think. I thought we all got that he was vt, or vanilla town, out of that right?
Also, I thought in my other posts I pointed this out and no one called it out.... Guess I didn't make it clear enough.
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btw super welcome back. :D
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i might still lynch you but i am glad you are back. :D
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I'm not sure if I should be happy that I didn't actually hard defend scum D1, or sad because I was off on everything else...
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so now we know that there is a town JK still alive, thats really good for us.
time to filter dive hurricane and hzflank.
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On July 19 2013 09:28 Xzavier wrote:
so now we know that there is a town JK still alive, thats really good for us.
time to filter dive hurricane and hzflank.
I'd say there's no guarantee of jk being alive, but it would be a pretty dumb play by maf to fake claim this.
Mods, are we able to know if there to be a town jk, would they have a document with the person they block? Other games I played have had this.
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On July 19 2013 09:34 Superfluous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 09:28 Xzavier wrote:
so now we know that there is a town JK still alive, thats really good for us.
time to filter dive hurricane and hzflank.
I'd say there's no guarantee of jk being alive, but it would be a pretty dumb play by maf to fake claim this. Mods, are we able to know if there to be a town jk, would they have a document with the person they block? Other games I played have had this.
Not being alive, of there being a jk. Woops
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On July 19 2013 09:34 Superfluous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 09:28 Xzavier wrote:
so now we know that there is a town JK still alive, thats really good for us.
time to filter dive hurricane and hzflank.
I'd say there's no guarantee of jk being alive, but it would be a pretty dumb play by maf to fake claim this. Mods, are we able to know if there to be a town jk, would they have a document with the person they block? Other games I played have had this.
i get what your saying with the first half, and i seriously dont think anybody to be stupid enough to fake-claim after seeing the Rolebloker die. Thats a silly play and would get lynched the next day if nobody else said anything (unless the JK hit teh SK and there was only 1 NK)
i didnt follow your green text in the slightest
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On July 19 2013 09:37 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 09:34 Superfluous wrote:On July 19 2013 09:28 Xzavier wrote:
so now we know that there is a town JK still alive, thats really good for us.
time to filter dive hurricane and hzflank.
I'd say there's no guarantee of jk being alive, but it would be a pretty dumb play by maf to fake claim this. Mods, are we able to know if there to be a town jk, would they have a document with the person they block? Other games I played have had this. i get what your saying with the first half, and i seriously dont think anybody to be stupid enough to fake-claim after seeing the Rolebloker die. Thats a silly play and would get lynched the next day if nobody else said anything (unless the JK hit teh SK and there was only 1 NK) i didnt follow your green text in the slightest
If the JK hit the SK, wont we only have 1 death?
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