Newbie Mini Mafia XLIV - Page 102

On July 18 2013 16:11 Alakaslam wrote:

But what if he was RB by scum.

This isn't my favorite topic at night.

On July 18 2013 04:55 Gotard wrote:
What's the point of lynching Superfluous right now? Since he's gone there's no discussion around him. his case was closed after first day. He can only hope that people will think that day one was town-town lynch which is the case.

On July 18 2013 15:33 Alakaslam wrote:
By the way, I did something stupid.

Here are my reads:

Super: people have made fair accusations of lurking in a way I don't like. Wouldn't facepalm if he gets lynched next day.
Nightcat: very, very new. Save for later.
Chrom: totes town. Don't sheep him.

Hurricane: forming. He is making me lean town with this exchange.
Onegu: totes town. He is bamcis, let him put the pressure on.
Umasi: town.

Anyone not on this list may or may not be scummy. They aren't prominent enough to come to mind, which is right where scum wants to be, and right where passive town usually wind up. When I finish this exchange with hurricane, I may have a full day at work after sleep and be unable to post until day. So I know this isn't ideal, but at least it is.

Wish I wasn't such a fool.

On July 19 2013 02:13 Hurricane Sponge wrote:


I'm struggling with this comment. Gotard threw this out right before he was lynched. His death looked inevitable to me, although I suppose he could have thought there were going to be shenanigans at the deadline. The takeaways from this comment's inconsistency with his recent read of Superfluous being a scum read break down into a 2x2 grid: The two variables are Super is Scum / Super is Town, and Gotard Thought He Could Live / Gotard Knew He Was Dead. Matrix below:

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Super is Scum / Gotard Thinks He Can Live:

1.) Gotard thinks he can live; he and Super are scum. Throws out a new Town read on Super as protection instinct. Solo votes Nightcat.

Super is Scum / Gotard Knows He Will Die:

2.) Gotard knows he's going to die; thinks giving Super a Town read on a scumbuddy is a good play for some reason (help with this please?).

Super is Town / Gotard Knows He Will Die:

3.) Gotard knows he's going to die (and flip red) and is trying to mindrape us into thinking Super is his scumbuddy by creating this new association so close to his flip. (Is it too sophisticated a play to assume from Gotard?)

Super is Town / Gotard Thinks He Can Live:

4.) Gotard thinks he can live; he knows Super is town. (I cannot come up with a plausible explanation for his comment.)

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Now, we obviously can't rule anything out based on Super's alignment (because we don't know it!) right now, but we might be able to speculate on whether we think / can find evidence of whether Gotard knew he was doomed last night or if he thought he could somehow avoid the day's lynch.

At first blush, I feel like Gotard didn't realize how much of a slam dunk lynch he was. He was still throwing out passive accusations, and (sort of) playing the game. There were no martyr posts, no attempt to defend the accusations against him, and he may not have realized just how much trouble he was in. The last post that I'd call a 'defense' came timestamped July 17th, 20:11. When he posted it, there were only 3 votes on him. Once the hz, 'slam, Gotard and Nightcat votes come in on him (early timestamp July 18th 1:12 - 4:00) Gotard doesn't post another formal defense for the rest of the game.

I know that play this poor this may seem hard to believe to some of us, but based on the quality of Gotard's play to this point, I believe it's possible he didn't know how super screwed he was. His last post comes 2.5 hours before Superfluous' vote on him, so it's possible that with Super gone from the mafia QT for most of Day 2, Gotard was flying solo or at least down a man when he was posting.

I'd like people's thoughts on this line of thinking. Did it seem to you like Gotard knew he'd be lynched yesterday?

On July 19 2013 02:49 hzflank wrote:


There are 9 players left in the game and it is the night phase. Why do you give 5 town reads, 1 weak scum read and then passively FoS the other 2 players?

If there are things that you do not like about me then this is the time to explore them, as opposed to just giving your town reads.

I'd also like to point out that both Umashi and Xzavier immediately voted for me on day 2, when the town as a whole seemed somewhat more inclined to vote for Gotard than for me, which we did.