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Vivax
21801 Posts
On July 05 2013 00:16 marvellosity wrote: Lying isn't the same as lying about what hosts told you. In my opinion at least. I've been searching for "dick" in your filter but it keeps highlighting your name | ||
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Vivax
21801 Posts
I don't have enough confidence into my abilities to convince this town. And I'm too lazy to try and prove otherwise to myself. Hence I'm just emoing. If you guys don't elaborate the game the same way I do, then it would simply take too much effort to let you take that perspective, and it's not even guaranteed that you would read it, or understand it. It's pretty simple setup-wise, and with NK-analysis. You are only looking at this shit between WoS and Fuba. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Vivax, Im really sad that you started your old habits man. If you are wrong, then what? | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
I'm one to talk I know...but it makes me feel better about my choice. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
Like, no matter who the survivor is, I'd say he played very very wierd. And not in a good way. But that's something that I'll save for post game. Out of the two stories, I'd say I'm sliiightly more inclined to kill WoS atm... But I'm really fucking puzzled as it is. The way I see it is that both claims are ridiculously late for being survivor claims. Survivors shouldn't be afraid of claiming... If scum can chose between killing town or survivor, who are they going to shoot? Like I get you are afraid but seriously, they aren't going to kill you unless they get the most massive brain cancer. And town should just treat it as null and decide if tehy want to lynch you based on your play, which they would anyway... Fuba's claim can be explained by somewhat bad play and the fact that he was absent for a long time. I can kinda buy that. WoS claim decides to claim vigi instead because he was afraid of scum finding out who he is? But he then explains that if scum got fake claims, they basically know who he is anyway. I don't get why vigi would be a safer claim than survivor, could anyone explain the logic behind this? Actually screw most of what I said. Just thought of this. WoS claims to have gone through ALL of this mess to try avoid scum knowing he is actually the vigilante. But this is BS. He claims vigi that is RBed so the only way scum would not know him being survivor is if the just RNGed their RB onto him. Now this in it self is really fucking unlikely but it does happend. However, if scum actually think that he is vigi, then he is in serious risk of getting killed at night. And survivors want to survive, remember? So the only fucking realistic way that scum would belive that he is vigi is if the survivor randomly RBs him. But then fuba claims he is survivor, he says that he RB anyone. Why would you ever want to go through anything like this as survivor? Well, you wouldn't... Its just too much of a stretch. Fuba's play can be explained by bad play. But WoS is clearly lying here. WoS is the correct person to lynch... | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:22 s0Lstice wrote: But look at what WoS is posting. Just defending his own play and why we should lynch fuba no comments on anything else in case he dies. I don't think this is alignment indicative at all.For someone who is supposedly fighting against the righteous indignation of being CC'd to avoid a lynch, Fuba is being quiet. I'm one to talk I know...but it makes me feel better about my choice. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Oats, let me here you thoughts on this issue. I have an insanly hard time explaining these actions from WoS to be frank.scum going all in if fuba flips red. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:48 Lazermonkey wrote: But look at what WoS is posting. Just defending his own play and why we should lynch fuba no comments on anything else in case he dies. I don't think this is alignment indicative at all. He is doing that because today is about the two of them, and them only. He is not commenting on anything else because he is an outed survivor, and needs to strike a balance between the two teams in the game. Doing nothing for either is balance. There is no problem there as I see it. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Explain this. I think my reasoning is very good.None of you thinking that WoS is scum is differentiating his play from a survivor play. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:50 s0Lstice wrote: I agree, I probably would have done the same. But it isn't indicative of him being the actual survivor. If fuba is scum he has so much to fight for because the game becomes much much easier if he is lynch after WoS. He is doing that because today is about the two of them, and them only. He is not commenting on anything else because he is an outed survivor, and needs to strike a balance between the two teams in the game. Doing nothing for either is balance. There is no problem there as I see it. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Actually screw most of what I said. Just thought of this. WoS claims to have gone through ALL of this mess to try avoid scum knowing he is actually the vigilante. But this is BS. He claims vigi that is RBed so the only way scum would not know him being survivor is if the just RNGed their RB onto him. Now this in it self is really fucking unlikely but it does happend. However, if scum actually think that he is vigi, then he is in serious risk of getting killed at night. And survivors want to survive, remember? So the only fucking realistic way that scum would belive that he is vigi is if the survivor randomly RBs him. But then fuba claims he is survivor, he says that he RB anyone. Why would you ever want to go through anything like this as survivor? Well, you wouldn't... Its just too much of a stretch. Fuba's play can be explained by bad play. But WoS is clearly lying here. WoS is the correct person to lynch... When did I say I was trying to avoid scum knowing I'm vig? I'm not fucking vig. Vig was the useable claim that I got for the massclaim, so I used it. I think that's pretty simple. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:57 Oatsmaster wrote: No survivor in this setup would ever claim vigi THAT GOT ROLEBLOCKED when his ambition was TO AVOID SCUM KNOWING WHO TEH SURVIVOR IS. How can you not see this? He is so fucking obviously lying. And why would he lie here? it doesn't make any goddamn sense...Lazer, your reasoning is that WoS is scum because no survivor would claim Vigi? | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 05 2013 02:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Ah, well I guess I missread a bit. So you are saying that you claimed vigi because you wanted to put fuba in a position where he was forced to claim miller, is that right?Like, if you think I should have just claimed survivor in the first place instead of bothering with vig, I already explained that, read my filter. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 05 2013 03:00 Lazermonkey wrote: No survivor in this setup would ever claim vigi THAT GOT ROLEBLOCKED when his ambition was TO AVOID SCUM KNOWING WHO TEH SURVIVOR IS. How can you not see this? He is so fucking obviously lying. And why would he lie here? it doesn't make any goddamn sense... It makes perfect sense. I had to claim something to appease town. I claimed roleblocked vigi so scum might think I was roleblocked by a survivor who wasn't me. It was a long shot but I had to take it. Hence the 'I'm fucked' argument. At this point people are just coming out of the woodwork with their own batshit theories trying to pin whatever they can to me to see if it sticks. I'm done. If people want me to die, so be it. If people want fuba dead, so be that. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On July 05 2013 03:03 Lazermonkey wrote: Ah, well I guess I missread a bit. So you are saying that you claimed vigi because you wanted to put fuba in a position where he was forced to claim miller, is that right? Well I assumed that's what he was given, but his claim blindsided me completely. | ||
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