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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:10 GMT
#722
On July 02 2013 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: WaveofShadow



Explain this shit.

Where did you ever spend a word about WoS?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:13 GMT
#727
On July 02 2013 06:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
anyone have a vote count?


why did you dump your vote on WoS then leave?
because it looked like the only wagons @ the time were WoS, Lazer, and Vayne and I felt that was the best vote. The fuba thing just up and happened out of thin air. I think he's a bad lynch.


Don't you think the contradiction I pointed out which has been left unanswered by fuba is scummy?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:18 GMT
#729
Hej host, what about the massclaim thing? Is it allowed to post our names along with the roles?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:22 GMT
#734
On July 02 2013 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
I've just been staring at that quote Vivax brought up. Does seem pretty contradictory. Maybe we should lynch him if he doesn't come back to explain himself shortly.


Looks like you wanna lynch anyone that gets a majority over fuba or Lazermonkey tbh. First WoS, then Vayne, now me.
What's contradictory?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:23 GMT
#738
Oh you might have meant fuba *facepalm*
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:25 GMT
#742
haha so many misunerstandings among the latest posts

On July 02 2013 06:22 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
I've just been staring at that quote Vivax brought up. Does seem pretty contradictory. Maybe we should lynch him if he doesn't come back to explain himself shortly.
JarJar is very liekly not scum... noone counter claimed his role, which means that unless he was really really lucky, he cannot be scum.


He means fuba's quote, not yours or mine probably
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:27 GMT
#747
This quote:

On July 02 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
WAIT WHAT

Rereading fuba I just noticed this shit:

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 07:00 mkfuba07 wrote:


Oats's vote on rayn was interesting, because I didn't think of rayn's actions from that persepective. The thing is, though, rayn had thought the situation through. The way oats presents it is as though rayn simply saw marv claim miller, and accepted it as true. Then went on to buddy him. This is clearly not what happened.

*snip*

rayn: After Vivax's marv post, I expected rayn to be less insistent on him being confirmed town. It would have been *much* easier for scum to fakeclaim miller in this situation than I thought, and I don't see how this isn't obvious from a town perspective. Add to that Vivax's case, where he points out that rayn accepts the existence of a miller at face value, and I'm pretty convinced. He's far too eager to accept the claim as truth, when it should now have little effect on the mind of a townie. My only reluctance to vote for him is his activity level, which I tend to associate with town.

##Vote: raynpelikoneet

Everyone else is gonna need a filter dive, and I'm going to have to reread the posts I read while writing this, but I feel comfortable with my vote where it is.


In the same post he says Rayn didn't take the claim at face value, then he says I pointed it out and suddenly it's true? Wtf.

This needs explanation.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#751
On July 02 2013 05:40 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote:
WAIT WHAT

Rereading fuba I just noticed this shit:

On July 01 2013 07:00 mkfuba07 wrote:


Oats's vote on rayn was interesting, because I didn't think of rayn's actions from that persepective. The thing is, though, rayn had thought the situation through. The way oats presents it is as though rayn simply saw marv claim miller, and accepted it as true. Then went on to buddy him. This is clearly not what happened.

*snip*

rayn: After Vivax's marv post, I expected rayn to be less insistent on him being confirmed town. It would have been *much* easier for scum to fakeclaim miller in this situation than I thought, and I don't see how this isn't obvious from a town perspective. Add to that Vivax's case, where he points out that rayn accepts the existence of a miller at face value, and I'm pretty convinced. He's far too eager to accept the claim as truth, when it should now have little effect on the mind of a townie. My only reluctance to vote for him is his activity level, which I tend to associate with town.

##Vote: raynpelikoneet

Everyone else is gonna need a filter dive, and I'm going to have to reread the posts I read while writing this, but I feel comfortable with my vote where it is.


In the same post he says Rayn didn't take the claim at face value, then he says I pointed it out and suddenly it's true? Wtf.

This needs explanation.

The writing of the first line and the writing in the last substantial paragraph happened about four hours apart. There were quite a few pages between those, and you presented a perspective I hadn't considered.


Ok, this is the explanation. I think I can actually buy it if you believe that fuba started writing the post at one point at finished it at another. There's no way to check that through but the explanation is simple and confident imo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#754
We have 30 minutes.

No counterclaim against Lazer yet.

Quick rundown of opinions on...S0lstice. Why? I think his comeback timing is kinda scummy. And his post before doing so was this:

On July 01 2013 13:02 s0Lstice wrote:
wow that was quick service lol.

its pretty clear you were writing that while I was reading your past games. if the meta doesn't hold, it doesn't hold.

I'm very frustrated in regards to you JJ. I feel like the combination of you suspecting me for bad reasons and misreading you in Les Mis is really fucking with me. I think the wise thing is to wait and see a bit.

I definitely need to read gumshoe. I haven't had time to look hard at his filter after a feel based town read, so he's a bit of a blindspot for me.



He was pretty much outside of the general focus so far. We can assume that scum didn't want to push him despite his low activity, and that is one more scumpoint.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:40 GMT
#757
Wtf am I writing. That wasn't s0lstice's last post before his comeback.

I think I'll just sheep marv cause I'm not very reliable atm.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:40 GMT
#758
Marv you need to tell me what aftershave you use
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:45 GMT
#762
Well I would still switch to WoS I think, still don't like his post I mentioned.

Lazer claimed cop. So I'm not taking the risk.
Fuba's explanation is something I could believe. It looks genuine.

Who's in for WoS? We have 15 mins
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:58 GMT
#770
On July 02 2013 06:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 02 2013 06:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
anyone have a vote count?


why did you dump your vote on WoS then leave?
because it looked like the only wagons @ the time were WoS, Lazer, and Vayne and I felt that was the best vote. The fuba thing just up and happened out of thin air. I think he's a bad lynch.


You think he's the best vote, you know I would vote for him. Why do you give up on going for WoS so quickly?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 21:59 GMT
#771
Just judging by this deadline it's clear that this game is not going to be easy -_-
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 22:10 GMT
#780
Meh.

I hope Lazer gets counterclaimed lol.

If he's really rolecop, then scum can keep him alive for another night, since he will prime his check on marv.
If he's scum, they can withhold roleblock if they have Hitler and justify him staying alive.

So yeah, he'll still be useless or dead even if he's really cop.
It was a fairly inactive D1 so I'm hoping that people like WoS, s0lstice and marv will show more of their play soon.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 22:12 GMT
#783
As for Oats, I don't think his absence makes him scum. I'm actually pretty sure the dude is town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 22:33 GMT
#792
On July 02 2013 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax why was WoS more likely to be scum than Vayne?


I mentioned specific reasons for lynching WoS, tbh I didn't find proper reasons on my own to lynch Vayne, except that he was more inactive than usual.
But in the end I decided to sheep marv cause I felt clueless and no one except JJ declared to join me in the WoS lynch, and marv would have lynched WoS as well, and that left me thinking that since marv is left with the same choices as me, he can probably be trusted.

I just hope I didn't make a mistake by buying fuba's explanation for his contradiction. But saying he wrote different parts of the post at different times is actually a feasible explanation.

We're still waiting for Oats and WoS though. I dídn't really like Lazer's claim timing and will probably lynch him first if one of them counterclaims him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 01 2013 22:48 GMT
#797
On July 02 2013 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah if someone cc's him they are probably town and Lazer is scum.

What do you think of Oats? Like for real? I don't think he has done anything but called me scum and JarJar town.


His tunnel on you looked very authentic, and he put a lot of emotion and effort into it. I don't think he'd have pulled that off as scum, regardless of your alignment.
What he did not doesn't really matter imo as I don't think that he would skip on the deadline presence even if he was scum. He's probably just busy.

I'll very likely not lynch Oats this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 02 2013 06:06 GMT
#826
WoS wtf is this

He says he couldn't find a reason of his own to lynch Vayne other than the fact that he was more inactive than usual. Yeah let's ignore my absence or the fact that I couldn't defend myself either for a day.


You feel the need to defend yourself for something I found Vayne to be guilty of?

I'll have kinda limited time today, but WoS looks pretty bad to me. As Oats mentioned, his shit is unfocused and I don't really see a townie line of thinking forming from his reads, it's more like he comments on anything that could be construed as scummy, but without drawing conclusions while doing so. Plus, stuff like this


I should actually be around during the day a little if people feel like talking to me.


gives me the impression he takes a passive stance in the game. "Yeah talk to me if u want lolz else I won't be posting much". WoS is more proactive than this as town. Sure, he was busy and shit, but if this is his new activity, then he can be sure to have my breath in his neck next day. This looks like the kind of "Let me write a ton of shit and fuck off"-activity.

Finds a bunch of stuff scummy from one guy (Lazer), doesn't dig further into that guy but heads towards JJD while complaining about the miller discussion, then calls my post scummy.

In his final posts he mentions people he wants to look into, effectively leaving all his previous "analysis" inconcluded, then adds some more points against stutters. No sign of Lazer, who he said he would be voting for that post, or me, posting something that "screams" to WoS. Or JJD for that matter. All the scummy stuff he found but still no intention to show how the concerned people are scummy, only the intention to write a load of stuff.

Anyhow, will probably be back around deadline.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
July 02 2013 06:43 GMT
#833
I'm against shooting Oats.
Pretty sure the dude is town.

Rayn you have this "habit" to want people dead who want you dead.
You have to realize that he most likely simply is sure that you are scum.

Can you tell me who you will most likely lynch tomorrow, as scum lynch not as pollicy lynch please?
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