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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
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On July 03 2013 06:59 Vivax wrote: EBWOP: What makes you say that the claim timing sitrs doubts in you The claim was 4 minutes before the deadline. Thus the chances that there's a real cop not counterclaiming until day are non-zero. Although as the deadline was actually extended, it does make it that much more likely that he's cop (as any potential counterclaim had more than an hour to actually claim and get Lazer lynched if needs be). Lazer was never a townread in particular, I just hadn't/haven't seen anything from him that makes me want to lynch him. Thus the claim is likely true (and more likely than what I said before due to how deadline was extended) | ||
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Vivax
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Although as the deadline was actually extended, it does make it that much more likely that he's cop This isn't really relevant as it's relevant what Lazer believed the deadline to be at. Do you have evidence to back that Lazer knew deadline was actually one hour later? Else this statement looks pretty biased coming from you. | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 03 2013 07:04 Vivax wrote: This isn't really relevant as it's relevant what Lazer believed the deadline to be at. Do you have evidence to back that Lazer knew deadline was actually one hour later? Else this statement looks pretty biased coming from you. No, the point is that if a real cop existed, and the deadline WAS 4 minutes away, he was either not looking at the thread during that moment, or if he was around thought it was too risky to counterclaim and maybe not even get Lazer lynched. The fact that there was another hour of time gave a lot more time for any potential counterclaim to happen and get Lazer lynched, but this didn't happen. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Vivax
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On July 03 2013 07:06 marvellosity wrote: No, the point is that if a real cop existed, and the deadline WAS 4 minutes away, he was either not looking at the thread during that moment, or if he was around thought it was too risky to counterclaim and maybe not even get Lazer lynched. The fact that there was another hour of time gave a lot more time for any potential counterclaim to happen and get Lazer lynched, but this didn't happen. It's still irrelevant to mention the hour of time then, as this can be reduced to the argument that lazer is supposed to be legit cop cause uncounterclaimed, which is unrelated to the timing of the counterclaim imo. So the best course in your opinion is to swallow the claim unquestioned and not judge lazer by his play? | ||
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marvellosity
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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
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On July 03 2013 07:11 Vivax wrote: It's still irrelevant to mention the hour of time then, as this can be reduced to the argument that lazer is supposed to be legit cop cause uncounterclaimed, which is unrelated to the timing of the counterclaim imo. So the best course in your opinion is to swallow the claim unquestioned and not judge lazer by his play? I've just explained why, all you have to do is read it and understand. When did I ever say that was the best course of action? Don't put words in my mouth. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 03 2013 03:43 iGrok wrote: Countdown to Daypost (I've got it right this time!): On July 03 2013 05:27 iGrok wrote: Hey guys, caught in some nasty traffic on the first leg of a 2 hour drive. Push it back one extra hour. I'm pretty sure we have an hour, or 45 min. I'll retract from posting until last minute as it's not productive in any way for me to post anything apparently. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 03 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote: I've just explained why, all you have to do is read it and understand. When did I ever say that was the best course of action? Don't put words in my mouth. There's no need to get defensive. It's simply that I have the impression you're trying to sell his claim as legit. Why would you do that if you would have wanted him to be scrutinized. As for reading and understanding, I don't see on what I missed. I don't understand how your argument applies to deadline time. What does it matter if Lazer gets counterclaimed within one hour or later? | ||
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marvellosity
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I don't know how I can make the counterclaim thing any clearer. If Lazer was fakeclaiming and there was a cop and there was ACTUALLY 4 minutes left, there's a high chance that he would not have counterclaimed for timing reasons. As there ended up being more time, if there were a non-Lazer cop, he would have had a lot of extra time to counterclaim. I don't know how I can state it any simpler. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 02 2013 05:37 marvellosity wrote: haven't got time to work all that out, i'm just looking at Vayne's filter and it's pathetic. Lazer's filter looks like he's trying. I'd like to talk more about your reasons. I mean, you read through the whole game as far as I saw, but you didn't work all that out, yet Rayne presented you with the reasons for having Lazer as scumread, and you skip over the reasons and judge two filters by the amount of trying. I realize this is accusatory, but I don't see how someone points you to something being scummy and you say you didn't have time to work it out, but one guy posts more than the other and hence is less scummy. Even afterwards you had plenty of time to comment on the Lazer stuff. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 03 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote: I'm currently thinking that I hope the Lazer situation resolves itself overnight. This post is from N1, it screams "i don't trust Lazer's claim". Everyone had posted between D1 end and this. Suddenly only now, a lot later (can't remember the exact time) marv says he trusts Lazer's claim, and in the same post he says he would not yet cc him or imply he is a cop tohim if he was a cop. | ||
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marvellosity
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I also don't understand what you're saying my mafia motivation for posting that is. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
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On July 03 2013 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know as you are a sneaky bitch but there definitely is no town!miller!motivation, at least on what you have said before/after. So you can't think of a mafia motivation (because one doesn't exist. Did you think of that? Did you even STOP and work out what I was trying to achieve if I was mafia saying that? No you didn't, because you're on your retardo-tunnel), and I literally just gave one really obvious townie reason. Carry on then. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 03 2013 07:35 marvellosity wrote: You're reading far too much into that. If Lazer died overnight (town has no protective roles) then it's a situation that's 100% resolved. I also don't understand what you're saying my mafia motivation for posting that is. Actually i can give you a clear mafia motivation. You want the town cop to die if he is town. After this you don't follow your earlier suspicion but label him as town, with a post full of contradictions. | ||
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