Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 57

I'm assuming Lazer is town for now due to the lack of counterclaim. The presence of miller does not necessitate the presence of a cop. Nor in the instance that Lazer is fakeclaiming and there IS a real cop, would the real cop have necessarily counterclaimed by now, unless he was a) around right at the time of the lynch and b) thought he could move the lynch on to Lazer immediately.

On July 03 2013 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i do not die i'll tell the thread what happened when the game was paused.

On July 03 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, afaik the OP did not state scum have 2 KP until the game was paused.

My early game setup/miller analysis can be thrown out of window.
It's more beneficial for scum to try to play bold and fakeclaim miller (at least if they got 3 goon), because it gives them a good chance of 2x fakeclaims.

There is also evidence that supports marv being scum, what i have pointed out on N1. There is also evidence Lazer is scum, that i have pointed out. And this has even nothing to do with their accosiation, but their individual play/play from role's point of view.

On July 03 2013 04:42 mkfuba07 wrote:
So this post was a whole progression of realizations, and it's probably going to be confusing, but I hope it'll clarify everything eventually. The stuff collapsed in the quotes was my original post. The next layer is when I realized I screwed up something that could have affected my read greatly. The outer later is the conclusion I came to. And actually, look at his unwillingness to take stances up until his vote on me. It's a whole lot of just saying that one person's comments about another person aren't accurate. Again, could be scummy, but I've seen it all done as town.
It's not until his first case and vote against me that he feels reasonably scummy. He calls it scummy as fuck and then comments only on the part about him (which was either misinterpreted (scum or town) or misconstrued (scum)). He goes on to make another case the next day using the same exact post, which is really, really weird as town. If you think a post is scummy as fuck, and you have reasons to find every aspect of it scummy, why would you not write it all up the first time? It's like he realized his mistake, then tried to correct it after the fact by showing how scummy the entire thing is, when most of the points he makes are just as much useless fluff as my post about marv was. Even if the "vayn-like" confusion was truly a misunderstanding, adding in the rest of it shows he was uncomfortable with the original case. And finally, trying to ignore the ordering of posts I convinced myself was the case, he *still* hasn't actually responded to any of my posts. He apparently doesn't care about the answers to his questions, and hasn't answered any of the ones I've asked (even if my ordering was all garbled up, there was still no response). Therefore, I still think stutters is scum.


I also see that rayn's had exactly the same thoughts about marv's response to WoS's question as I did. Feeling really confident about my change of heart about him now. I had this written out in notepad, and it's actually pretty hilarious how perfectly marv's response fits into it:

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Facts: marv miller claim, laser cop claim
marv and laser both town: legit
marv lying and laser cop: legit
marv miller and laser lying: Doesn't make sense
to fakeclaim cop after a legit miller claim.
both lying: legit

Laser can be scum only if marv is lying.
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Narrowed it down to the what I found to be the most basic statement you could make given the four scenarios, and the end result was the bottom line. Since it's highly likely to be suicide to fakeclaim cop after a legitimate miller claim, marv shouldn't be suspicious of laser if he was, in fact, miller.

On July 03 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax, afaik the OP did not state scum have 2 KP until the game was paused.

On July 02 2013 04:15 marvellosity wrote:
On page 15 and getting seriously bored with this miller shit