Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 42

On July 01 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reads and thoughts:

Lazermonkey:
Thread enterance points towards being town. Careless comment about policy lynching. I don't think he would do that as mafia. I also do not think he would hardcore defend me if he was scum, as apparently this Vivax' wagon is easy to join with just saying "i agree". It doesn't even make sense if JarJar is somehow town, because if you can choose between lynching town!rayn and town!JarJar i would not think twice, even if based purely on activity.

Stutters:
Gets town points from what Oats pointed out. Gets town points from trying to get the discussion moving also to other things than me. I like his vote on Fuba because i think Fuba is scum.

Vivax:
Vivax is only looking my post in the point of view "how does this make rayn scum". You are forgetting something, you are not even taking account the possibility that i would think like this as town. There are many examples where i have given town reads based on very little and based on that those people think like me and would act like me. I don't like the fact that he is failing to contribute to almost everything other than me, especially JarJar and WoS. I have explained everything you have in your case, if you don't believe that as a genuine explanation, fine, vote for me. But remember this; If i get lynched and you are actually town you are in deep shit because as a strong player you are going to die on N1 and you seem have no base to any other solid read that you think you have on me now. So if you are town better start doing some real scumhunting.

VayneAuthority:
Basically due to process of elimination.

gumshoe:
Definitely town. Has the best posts in thread atm.

Oatsmaster:
If Oats was scum he would also be in deep shit in case i flip, i don't think he would even think he could handle it as the tunnel is so absurd and stupid. Sad, but this has to be bad!town!Oats

marvellosity:
I'm having second thoughts about marv as he has not yet posted. Will have a better read on him when he gets back. And his posts better be good then!

mkfuba07:
Says "WoS will show if he is town when he starts playing". In his next post he comments on some random people (for what?), and does not comment on WoS/JarJar in any way (hey, you were supposed to be good in reading WoS??). Then drops his vote on me without adding anything to the case, only that "it would be much easier to fakeclaim miller here" which is certainly not true. scum. Why did you not comment on JarJar/WoS in any way in your big post? You must have a read on both of them, let us hear it.

WaveofShadow:
Useless. Even says he will be useless. Why not say something useful instead? Continues being useless, like having voted Stutters and what's the follow up? He does not try to find out his scumbuddies, he doesn't question him in any way. Actually, he does not question anyone in any way. If JarJar is somehow town WoS is sure scum by trying to avoid attention after called out. Who is scum WoS and why? What are your thoughts on Vivax/JarJar/Fuba?

s0Lstice:
Starts the game with good questions on things i thought was odd myself too. His posts are well thought out and i can follow his thought process.

JarJarDrinks:
Calls out Solstice for scumhunting. Good job, that's his top scumread at that time. Doesn't follow up this suspicion in any way, and is now voting for Gumshoe as an OMGUS. Hey JarJar, why did you noot look at my situation at the same light you are looking at this one "you think this is the only way to look at it?" as you said you think i am town. Why not tell Vivax and Oats that they are wrong? Why are they not suspicious but gumshoe is for doing the same thing? His answers to Vivax' questions look really really forced. Also what's your read on WoS/Fuba now and why?

Now i know i have too much scumreads. Everyone fits in as scum with everyone in those people (i count out marv atm), i don't want to lynch Vivax because he does not look the worst and there is a slight possibility that he is town. We also do not work well together at least on D1.

I keep my vote on JarJar, but i challenge all of you to question WoS/JarJar/fuba, i'm pretty confident there is at least 2 scum in them.

On July 01 2013 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stop with the stupid connection cases before red flips. There is no base in Vivax Stutters read because it's based on me and him being scum which can't possibly be true.

On July 02 2013 07:33 Vivax wrote:


I mentioned specific reasons for lynching WoS, tbh I didn't find proper reasons on my own to lynch Vayne, except that he was more inactive than usual.
But in the end I decided to sheep marv cause I felt clueless and no one except JJ declared to join me in the WoS lynch, and marv would have lynched WoS as well, and that left me thinking that since marv is left with the same choices as me, he can probably be trusted.

I just hope I didn't make a mistake by buying fuba's explanation for his contradiction. But saying he wrote different parts of the post at different times is actually a feasible explanation.

We're still waiting for Oats and WoS though. I dídn't really like Lazer's claim timing and will probably lynch him first if one of them counterclaims him.

On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.

I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case?

On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2.

He says he couldn't find a reason of his own to lynch Vayne other than the fact that he was more inactive than usual. Yeah let's ignore my absence or the fact that I couldn't defend myself either for a day.

I should actually be around during the day a little if people feel like talking to me.

On July 02 2013 15:06 Vivax wrote:
WoS wtf is this



You feel the need to defend yourself for something I found Vayne to be guilty of?

I'll have kinda limited time today, but WoS looks pretty bad to me. As Oats mentioned, his shit is unfocused and I don't really see a townie line of thinking forming from his reads, it's more like he comments on anything that could be construed as scummy, but without drawing conclusions while doing so. Plus, stuff like this



gives me the impression he takes a passive stance in the game. "Yeah talk to me if u want lolz else I won't be posting much". WoS is more proactive than this as town. Sure, he was busy and shit, but if this is his new activity, then he can be sure to have my breath in his neck next day. This looks like the kind of "Let me write a ton of shit and fuck off"-activity.

Finds a bunch of stuff scummy from one guy (Lazer), doesn't dig further into that guy but heads towards JJD while complaining about the miller discussion, then calls my post scummy.

In his final posts he mentions people he wants to look into, effectively leaving all his previous "analysis" inconcluded, then adds some more points against stutters. No sign of Lazer, who he said he would be voting for that post, or me, posting something that "screams" to WoS. Or JJD for that matter. All the scummy stuff he found but still no intention to show how the concerned people are scummy, only the intention to write a load of stuff.

Anyhow, will probably be back around deadline.

On July 02 2013 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are you saying i dropped my scumread on Vivax right after marv appeared. I have a post one hour before that where i'm willing to accept Vivax's scumread as a suspect. Does that not tell you i have dropped my scumread on him?

On July 02 2013 15:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats answer the question:

Oatsmaster:
If Oats was scum he would also be in deep shit in case i flip, i don't think he would even think he could handle it as the tunnel is so absurd and stupid. Sad, but this has to be bad!town!Oats

On July 02 2013 15:43 Vivax wrote:
I'm against shooting Oats.
Pretty sure the dude is town.

Rayn you have this "habit" to want people dead who want you dead.
You have to realize that he most likely simply is sure that you are scum.

Can you tell me who you will most likely lynch tomorrow, as scum lynch not as pollicy lynch please?

On July 01 2013 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now i know i have too much scumreads. Everyone fits in as scum with everyone in those people (i count out marv atm), i don't want to lynch Vivax because he does not look the worst and there is a slight possibility that he is town. We also do not work well together at least on D1.

I keep my vote on JarJar, but i challenge all of you to question WoS/JarJar/fuba, i'm pretty confident there is at least 2 scum in them.

On July 02 2013 15:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No i can't. I need to reread a lot before telling that. Everybody i have been looking into this game is pretty much town besides Fuba, and even him seems somewhat town.