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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#801
marv can probably explain if you don't get it.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 01 2013 23:06 GMT
#802
marv, thoughts on rayn pretty much dropping his scumread on Vivax the minute you show up and start pushing a dude?

Marv, rayn is scum y/n?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:09 GMT
#803
Oats i dropped my scumread on Vivax way before marv apperared.
Thoughts on the lynch and happenings there?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 01 2013 23:10 GMT
#804
On July 02 2013 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats i dropped my scumread on Vivax way before marv apperared.
Thoughts on the lynch and happenings there?

i think that you guys shouldve lynch WoS and that marv is town.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:14 GMT
#805
Why are you saying i dropped my scumread on Vivax right after marv appeared. I have a post one hour before that where i'm willing to accept Vivax's scumread as a suspect. Does that not tell you i have dropped my scumread on him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:15 GMT
#806
And why do you think we should have lynched WoS? Why not me? Why are you asking marv about me if i am not your scumread any more?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 01 2013 23:17 GMT
#807
because it wasnt not possible to lynch you earlier. WoS was a viable choice.

duuude why so suspicious and why are you attacking me? Im your townread right
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:20 GMT
#808
to be fair you are not anymore now that i have a strong town reads on jarjar/lazer.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:20 GMT
#809
Do you think i am/was bussing WoS?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
July 01 2013 23:29 GMT
#810
On July 01 2013 02:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
OH OH RAYN OATS.
WHERE YOU GO MAN?
TALKING ABOUT IT WITH YOUR SCUMBUDDIES???????



/sarcasm, just had to do this because.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 00:05 GMT
#811
Yeah man.
I think that you didnt bus WoS cause he isnt dead. I do think that the pressure you put on him is fake
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 02 2013 00:07 GMT
#812
O hai guise.

Part of me wants to apologize for disappearing for this long, but part of me doesn't give a fuck because I had baby-free time plus Canada Day.
Catching up as we speak. Would you guys prefer stream-of consciousness (probably easier for me) or one long as all fuck post at the end?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 00:09 GMT
#813
stream of consciousness focusing on Rayn's bullshit list post.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 00:24 GMT
#814
On July 01 2013 02:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
OH OH RAYN, OATS RAYN.
WHERE YOU GO MAN?
TALKING ABOUT IT WITH YOUR SCUMBUDDIES???????


No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 02 2013 00:31 GMT
#815
Alrighty let's seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
On July 01 2013 04:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
WoS, why is your vote on stutters if you dont think hes scum? Do you have any reason to think hes scum?

I did think he was scum at the time. I was beginning to waffle but then he smacked me with the post I commented on. It's not that I didn't think he was scum per se, but the fact that a wagon was so quick to form began to give me pause as well. Solstice being the 4th one to jump on (I remember reading somewhere that the 4th person on a mislynch wagon is statistically most likely to be scum? That could be bullshit) could very easily be scum seeing a strong and easy wagon to jump on early. Wasn't enough to make me drop my vote on Stutters as he still felt right to me at the time what with his being so unbelievably tentative about everything.

On July 01 2013 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
so WoS defended you, and his actions revolving stutters basically.

So he keeps saying his vote on Stutters is basically a placeholder vote until 'something worse' happens.
Also, he doesnt seem really all interested in lynching stutters, he says that his vote is there until stutters is back. which is relatively easy for stutters to do. I have no idea why he voted then if he doesnt want to lynch stutters.

His overreaction to your pokes is also odd. He dismisses your points really fast and shits on you in the process.

I could see this being a bus though.

This is misrepresentation and I don't like it. I hate when I'm not around to defend myself; how close was I to getting lynched? It was not a placeholder vote at all; I pointed out scummy things about Stutters I didn't like and was waiting to see as the day progressed if he'd shape up at all, as often happens with D1 scumreads. Turns out I wasn't even around to see whether that happened or not but at the time I did want to lynch him. Call my points overreacting if you want but I hate being misrepresented and people flat out LYING about my actions.


On July 01 2013 04:24 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 04:15 Stutters695 wrote:
@WoS Je m'en fous

This is how I always play. My day 1 reads are notoriously bad. I find generating discussion to be a much better use of my time.
If this is true you've done it in an interesting way I'd say. The discussion you have generated this far has been about you being scum.


I would have probably said the exact same thing.

Gumshoe's massive post on p16 makes me feel good about him. I remember feeling good about fuba too.

On July 01 2013 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats you need to explain this to me.
You say that you will be looking to WoS if i would flip town. So you think i am right about WoS. Why the fuck do you want to lynch me first if you think either 1) i am right or 2) i am bussing him.

You are making no sense now.

Also you need to explain how solstice is scummy and how JarJar looks good.

This is a good point. Nothing a good oId pre-flip association. I have no reason to believe Rayn isn't town right now.

Oats tryharding big time this game. Makes me nervous since he's not just shitposting and I think more often than not the games in which I play with Oats he just shitposts.

On July 01 2013 05:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 05:16 gumshoe wrote:
On July 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD looks worse because?
What makes him different from stutters?
Or Vayne?


A) buddying

B) Not throwing around concrete threats but definitely alot of shiit.

C) Severely flip floppy.

D) doesn't contribute anything really.

E) recycles others opinions.

F) Attacks people who are actively contributing, thereby attacking discussion itself.

All this in just three posts, it's remarkable really. How can you defend this guy just because he agrees with you? In fact if I was you(and was actually town) I would revaluate my opinion on Rayne just because THIS guy supports it.

I'll look at Vayne next, but I'm pretty set on Jar Jar seeing as hes far far worst than Stutters whose principal offence in my eyes was just timing based / :
I'll sheep this guy I think. He seems resonable.

Ok this is like the third fucking time Lazer feels the need to tell us that's he's on top of gumshoe's dick regarding his read on JJD. WTF? I don't understand--- if you're town and someone makes a case that you like you can just sheep him or add some of your own insight to it or discuss it I guess---Lazer just reiterates time after time that 'he likes this read, this is a good read, Ill sheep him, this makes sense.' He provides some reasoning but I really hate the way he feels the need to tell us over and over again. Looks like scum trying to look good jumping on a wagon started by a towny. I'm not sure what that means for JJD but I would have changed my vote to Lazer at this point.

I'll start a new post after this so it's not too wall-of text-y.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 00:40 GMT
#816
no dont do this.

It jumps all over the place and address different things, defence, specific bad posts, scumreads. Make 1 post about each.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#817
Page 18:
lol Oats calling people pedantic.
JJD feels like scum JJD to me. When I played with him in Les Mafia he made sure to tunnel his read as long as humanly possible so that it wouldn't look like he was waffling and that he was sticking to his guns. This looks a lot like that---'pick some towny at random and fucking tunnel them all day long.'

On July 01 2013 05:49 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 05:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously you guys are fucking pedantic.


How are we unimaginative or pedestrian? Also heres a flip flop.


<3 gumshoe

I have to read through a couple of JJD's games and actually have a look at the bus case I made against him in Les Mafia because I remember it being pretty damn good and almost getting him lynched for it (and then solstice or somebody showed up or something and gg we win). I need to see if he's really this aggressive in his town games too because I remember it not being the case.

Oh god more miller claim bullshit. I really don't feel like reading more of this. Why does Vivax feel the need to bring it up after the conversation died?

Fuba's re-entry post is setting off alarm bells but I don't know why. Exaggerated listpost maybe? Multiple apologies/complaining about thread activity? (Though that second one is null to me, I know I do that a lot and people seem to think it's scummy. I don't know)

On July 01 2013 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lazer, Vivax is probably scum and JarJar or WoS is his scumbuddy, JarJar more likely.
There are three people who should know how i work and how i develop my reads. WoS, Oats and Vivax. Oats becomes and idiot who tunnels someone for the whole phase, and by his other posts he looks very town. WoS, i don't really know what he thinks of me and why. Vivax is just... well saying nothing but asking me about stuff i have explained or debunked already.

He's right to some extent though I was in obs QT in Catch 22 and was massively wrong about Rayn being town. I still have a townread on him but once I'm finished the re-read I'll have to look into a bunch of people, Rayn being one of them.

On July 01 2013 07:25 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lazer, Vivax is probably scum and JarJar or WoS is his scumbuddy, JarJar more likely.
There are three people who should know how i work and how i develop my reads. WoS, Oats and Vivax. Oats becomes and idiot who tunnels someone for the whole phase, and by his other posts he looks very town. WoS, i don't really know what he thinks of me and why. Vivax is just... well saying nothing but asking me about stuff i have explained or debunked already.
WoS, I'm kinda neutral on atm. I don't feel like killing him.

Vivax has been giving me really bad vibes the last few pages. He really went overboard with the tunneling, though I don't think tunneling in it self is a scum tell. Also, Vivax is actually talking alot, compared to others in this game and I'm not too keen on killing one of the most active posters in the game D1.

We really should kill Jarjar...

Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm.

Stutters votes fuba out of left fucking field lol.
Uh...wtf that hosting issue. I would have voted to continue.

At this point I think I'm literally blocking out all this bullshit miller discussion because I can't handle it. If it's a scum tactic then wp.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________Oats I just read your recent post; I don't think there is a good way of doing this tbh---if I made one post about everything I found I think is worth talking about I'd be posting like 40 posts in a row. I guess I won't comment on everything I want to though because I understand it's probably shit to read. Maybe I'll just make notes and post the most important bits.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 00:52 GMT
#818
The point with you doing this, is that its unfocused bullshit.
Make it focused.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 02 2013 00:56 GMT
#819
Kind of difficult to sift through half a thread worth of activity that focuses on different things at different times and focus it to a point.
I would think that you guys would like to actually be able to read this and divine my thought processes as I give them to you; it's far too easy for scum to pick something out about one post I make that doesn't look great after a day's worth of inactivity and try to get me mislynched.

As I said I will attempt to condense but it certainly is not going to be 20+ pages into one neat little post.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 02 2013 00:58 GMT
#820
Then dont do this.
Im not talking about condensing.
Focus on the 3 things above and make posts that only focus on those 3 things.
Everything else is just too much.
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