Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 2

On July 02 2013 06:06 marvellosity wrote:


My claim makes me very very likely town, so this is a really fucking dumb thing to say.

On July 02 2013 06:09 marvellosity wrote:


this is the perfect time to be arguing about it because there's a lynch on the line. the fact i've been away all day changes nothing about the claim itself, which rayn was right about.

On July 02 2013 06:12 marvellosity wrote:


Sure I do. I read Vayne properly. Dunno why you're behaving like this, it isn't helpful.

On July 02 2013 05:32 marvellosity wrote:


why are we not lynching Vayne?

His filter is extraordinarily short (i know, i know). also just found this



Vayne pretty much admits himself in past games that he likes to solve games by night interactions and kills, claims etc. Seems completely against his MO to advise against it this game.

On July 02 2013 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
s0lstice: you ended up plopping your vote on fuba at the end of the day, when you hadn't mentioned him at all previously in your filter. Explain how and why your vote ended up on fuba please.

On July 02 2013 05:02 mkfuba07 wrote:
These start just about at when rayn starts bold shouting. Responses to more recent events to follow shortly.

rayn pretty emotional about this. seems kinda invested. reaction really different from his one in roulette. Not sure if availability to play is a factor.

Lazer's 6th post: Don't really understand why it's so scummy. I mean, he seems to make a series of assumptions that I probably wouldn't make, but I could see town doing it. Was hoping for something more compelling.

Vayne's reaction to me: Eh, WoS seemed to feel that you were town in roulette, even though he kept pointing out how he could interpret your play as scummy. I trust his synopsis, because it was roughly in sync with what I felt in the middle of the game, after I played with you a while, and before I got all setup-crazy. Top scumread: rayn or stutters. They're kinda tied.

gumshoe, regarding JJD: "Wow, flip flop much? Also a willingness to vote for someone you think is good to save yourself... is towny how?" Was thinking of gumshoe as leaning town with some confusing/misguided reasoning, but this is really stretching for scumminess. I've seen plenty of townies say something like JDD did, and it was really only called into question when the person who said it was already scummy for other reasons.

S0L: has a point about Lazer (in that what he said about rayn seems to come from a town perspective), but the point about rayn isn't entirely valid, imo. The thing about scum is that they know when they've been legit caught in a slip. And for me it's not entirely the fact that rayn instantly believed marv's claim, it's that he won't admit how much easier it would have been for marv to fakeclaim given that he didn't post his role name and presumably all of the millers have claimed if they were going to. S0L also makes some good points about stutters.

rayn's read post: ugh, *now* he's unsure of marv? Regarding me: the people I commented on were the ones I'd given the most thought to at the time. Believe it or not, that post took me something like four hours to write, having to read through everything and analyze it. I didn't comment on people I hadn't given a lot of thought to, which included the most recent topics of discussion. This isn't anything new for me. I also never said I was good at reading WoS. I said he would probably reveal himself through his play, and as such wasn't really on my mind at the time. Finally, not adding anything to a case that I already find convincing isn't scummy. If I had anything to add, I would have said it earlier instead of saying I was leaning town on you. I intentionally avoided just repeating everything vivax and oats said, because it's a waste of time. I pointed out what convinced me, and moved on. As for WoS, he was completely off my radar, which isn't really a good sign in his case. Dove his filter *really* fast: D1 Roulette he was townie almost from the start. So far he's comparably a lurker, but his thoughts have been in line with my own many times throughout the thread. Possibly scum if his activity doesn't improve (anyone know if WoS lurks as scum?), but definitely not a lynch today imo. JJD is gonna need a filter dive as well as a reread of the cases on him, which I'm not doing at this exact moment. His responses to gumshoe's "implication post" make me lean townie on him, though. The rest is stuff that I've generally skimmed over because I know I'll have to go back and analyze it all together.

JJD's JDD+gumshoe post: Pretty convincing. Why would town try to paint someone as scummy by pointing out something that they themselves would do in that situation? That's not town perspective.

claiming names: Thought it looked like a good idea, but as JJD said, it would actually break the game, right?

Stutters' case against me: in a following post. There's too much to respond to XD

Followed by lots of stuff that I'm gonna have to read through again. Lemme know if you really want me to focus on something, apparently there's less time than I thought. Feeling most comfortable with a stutters/rayn lynch.

On June 30 2013 21:10 Lazermonkey wrote:
I don't get how the sentences are contradicting each other : /. And its not really that much of WIFOM. If I am scum, couldn't I just say "hey, these posts by Vayne probably means he is scum" and then just push for his lynch, not giving a fuck? Instead I said "hey, these posts by Vayne are suspcious, but if he usually plays like this then its not that big of a scum tell".

And no, I'm obviously not giving him auto-town status just because he is a lynch bait, that would be retarded Lol. But there is a reason lynch baits are lynch baits. They get lynched.
Okay, this is what I wanted from you!

As a side note, my 6th post is this Maybe I'm a bit biased in this issue (^^)but I fail to see how this makes me scum.

On July 02 2013 05:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Vayne looks bad. Sad that he is a lynch bait but I'm kinda OK with killing him. I don't understand at all his reasoning for voting me. First I'm scum then town, then I'm town, then I'm null, then scum again. And that's right when the wagon on me is about to start

On July 02 2013 05:13 Lazermonkey wrote:
Ow, missed that. Still WoS claimed that you had played a style that didn't "fit" TL and that the most townie you you played was when you was scum, guess I misinterpreted that.

Lol, I bet you didn't even open noir mafia. If you read some of the end game comments you'll see what Vivax said isn't true at all. We won that because town was lazy fuck. I had like 6 pages filter and was considered active in a game that went to D3. I wasn't good at looking townie. And even if I was, this is still a stupid conclusion to draw. Yhea, this guy looks quite townie, but he can play townie as scum as well so I'll lynch him.