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On July 08 2013 01:08 johnnywup wrote: These are the posts that WoS has made that have any value whatsoever: + Show Spoiler + On July 07 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript town Gumshoe town Not sure on everyone else yet Be back again sooooooooooooooooooooon On July 07 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Nope, not ready to lynch Rayn---I can read him pretty decently for the most part I feel so I'm gonna let him stick around. I remember thinking someone else was pretty scummy actually (and I still think it's MORE likely that Chez is scum than he isn't but whatever)...oh yeah, johnnywup. This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat. On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote: You know what's funny? Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum. So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh. This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me. Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript. EVERYTHING else has been sarcasm/joking/talking about other games/trying to get people to bandwagon me/etc. I'll skip the first post because it's only arguably substantial. I mean, the other two are somewhat large posts (mostly because of the quotes) but all he really says is -quote- "This is some scummy shit, yo. Like....it's true, but it's such a 'Hey guys, let's be iirends' way of saying it. Also kind of funny is he says he doesn't see any scumtells yet calls everyone scummy. Wat." Which doesn't really say anything either. He is obviously wanting to get people against me at this point but isn't willing to come straight out and say I'm scum. And even what he's saying isn't that substantial...he missed what I was saying. "-quote- So essentially...glorified OMGUS, and he's voting me based on that and what might be a shitty gutread. Cool story brehhhh. -quote- This is literally the only reason I found for Geript to me voting me. Something fishhyyyy going on. And I don't think it's Geript." Don't you see it? HE'S NOT SAYING ANYTHING. He skips over everything I said and said "lol so ur calling me bad. ur scum" And he's not speculating on anything either, he's just saying "wow this is fishy! 2 people are voting me!" He hasn't made any post that says anything. This is every single post. He hasn't really done anything this whole game except say I'm scum. And I'm not scum. So the fact that he's focusing every single post on me is more than a little fishy for me. Waveofshadow plays like this as scum. To reference Blazinghand's Venn Diagram: what you're talking about here is orange territory. The distinguishing traits of WoS's play as town have more to do with whether or not he's helpful going forwards rather than whether or not he spends most of D1 joking. | ||
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On July 08 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote: Sleeping soon so if there are any questions in the next half hour or so I will be around. The next thing is on Alakaslam, his activeity level has me feeling scummy. Compared to his last game where he would post about his dinner, add in the fact he watched 2 lurkers make it to endgame. The chez situation really needs to be explored more, and if he refuses to give answers he needs to be lynched. Just the way he admited he launched it but didnt explain why gives me a really big scum vibe, and he really doesnt add much productivity to the thread either. ##VOTE: Chezinu There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier: On July 07 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote: And this post is doing what? I really dont like most of your posts, that being said Im not convinced you are scum yet. Is chezinu just crazy and will be like this all game? Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother. ##vote Onegu | ||
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On July 08 2013 05:36 geript wrote: How does this shit make him scum as opposed to just a new player? He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy" | ||
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On July 08 2013 05:40 geript wrote: How does that make him scum though? I read the quotes. As a new player how is he supposed to know if Chez is, you know Chez, or if he's like BC. When you played your first (town) game with chez you knew or found out right away what kind of player he was, and didn't waste your time on him. I was the same way. Any town player who sees someone acting so clearly insane and anti-town tries to look for an explanation, besides just "he is scum" because as a town player you don't trust anything or anyone. You don't trust the obvious. You see someone acting like Chez and you don't think "ah, this veteran is obvious scum" because that's not how you think. No, you see him acting that way and you ask "why", and not just rhetorically. You ask the thread. You find out he's insane. And you act on it. That's not what Onegu has done here. | ||
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On July 08 2013 05:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nirvana.Gabo why is Onegu your target and not me? I happened to notice Onegu's posts in the past few pages and I didn't notice yours. | ||
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On July 08 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ahh so you don't read the whole thread and just vote reactionary? Is this the behaviour you are going to follow the whole game? I didn't say I didn't read your posts noob | ||
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On July 08 2013 06:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Anybody who's ever played with Ace will give him a town read right now. | ||
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On July 08 2013 16:40 FirmTofu wrote: Sorry I took so long. I got burned out from reading the thread and having to update my reads based on incoming information so I took a long break from the thread. I've completed nearly all my player profiles and am ready to give geript my top three scumreads. VayneAuthority: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=17#329 Unjustified reason to vote someone. It could be a poke, but it remains unclear. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=25#495 Advocates lynching for information. Acknowledges that he could flip town. A town would push their lynch under the assumption that they were scum. Starting to focus on what will happen post-flip indicating that he doesn't want to take the heat on a town flip. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=28#554 Highlighting play that strikes him as PR. Why would town do this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#568 Accuses Caucasian, who seems like an easy target considering he only has one post and was drunk. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=34#669 Adds Dandel to the list of lynch targets. WaveOfShadow: His fluff extends a bit too far into the day. Most of his posts are non-contributing/restating what has already been said. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=19#375 Refers to "town players" as an entity that he is not a part of. Very scummy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=20#383 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=20#392 Voices his opinion of Johnny based on a misinterpretation of his post, then waits for someone else to vote him before hopping on the wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=24#464 Defensive post. Why is he so worried about a wagon on him if the people voting him have a bad case against him? He should be pursuing his reads, not wasting time defending himself from a "weak" wagon. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=25#482 Seems to understand scum methodology and could be trying to WIFOM us with his play. I haven't read many of his newer posts, so I will update my read of him as I continue reading. Nirvana.Gabo: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#566 Idiotic reason to vote Onegu. Looking for reasons to vote, instead of looking for actual scumslips. Could be a scumbuddy defense of a teammate in Chez. We will need to see the flip to know for sure. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=29#576 Mistaking newbieness for scum play. Seems to be a deliberate ploy to accuse Onegu of something that isn't there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=418049¤tpage=31#619 Has a town read on Ace. Convenient. Reiterating what many others have already stated. I would like to pursue either a Vayne or Nirvana lynch, but would be willing to defer to a lynch of WoS. First, I need to read further into the thread to see whether he has redeemed himself or not. For now, Vote ##: VayneAuthority Bite me. Looking for scumslips isn't how you play, looking for scummy posting and behavior is. | ||
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I'm the doctor, don't do it | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:05 TanGeng wrote: Nirvana.Gabo, since you are role claiming. Perhaps you can do so in more convincing fashion. See that. That's me. I really can't be bothered to conform to some standard of how my role should be claimed. something like what you've quoted takes zero effort to fake. Here, I'll show you. You are Dèng Xiǎopíng, leader of China who modernized the country and moved it towards a market economy! Inheriting a country fraught with social and institutional woes resulting from the Cultural Revolution and other mass political movements of the Mao era, you led a new synthesis of the Chinese ethic with market reforms and socialism. You are generally credited with developing China into one of the fastest-growing economies in the world and lifting hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty. Once per night, you may heal one player. That player will be protected from one KP. Your protection will not help against Nukes. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:11 Ace wrote: That was a stupid decision WoS. We live in dark times my friend | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:15 Ace wrote: I'm thinking a town motivated WoS would nuke someone that is refusing to post. Hitting NG was the popular move based on thread sentiment that was just bs. Actually... that's a good point. He waited until Rayn was on board, but really, when you're a town-aligned Vigi you generally don't give a dick what other people think, you either shoot for policy (lurkers, etc) or you shoot your top scumread. You don't care if it is an unpopular choice because your goal isn't to look good, your goal is to shoot scum. Deciding to shoot me because many people dislike me, or because Rayn hopped on board, is decidedly scummy of WoS. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Except that I mentioned earlier that I'd rather not lurker lynch today since the pool was so large and I didn't know what my odds were. Why u flingin' shit, Ace? I think his choice to fling shit at you is entirely justified. Especially since I at least somewhat fall into the lurker category with my small number of posts and low amount of content (at least at the time you shot me). You shot me (and you wrote this down, too) because thread sentiment had turned against me. That's not how a real vigi plays. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Guess I'm not a real vigi and am a very bad player. What are you gonna do about it? If I'm scum, nothing-- you have nothing to fear when I flip, and you will gain nothing but town cred. But I think we both know what's happening here. I'm gonna flip town, and you're pre-preemptively trying to squirm out of responsibility for my death. "Oh, rayn's on board, okay" and "I guess I'm bad" and so on. Very cute. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote: I have nothing to fear anyway. In fact, please continue this so I don't get shot at night and can survive to attempt to help the town more positively in the future (if you're town). I'm very good at surviving, you see. you're not a very good actor | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:31 TanGeng wrote: I'm sorry. I just find Medic/Doctor claims harder to believe. It's very convenient scum claim because of how the ability works. On day 1, all blue claims are pretty meaningless, since there aren't any breadcrumbs to back it up. Also, I'm already dead so it doesn't matter. Also, the point I'm making is the presence/absence of something easily faked (such as a role name) have no correlation with the truth of a claim. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:32 strongandbig wrote: looks like i missed some nuke defenses (on pretty good targets) and some more nukes and the worst roleclaim ever from engie (dont kill me im the doctor guise) so im pretty okay with where the nukes are heading, i guess What am I supposed to do, show you the breadcrumbs from all the nights I've protected people and explain my pattern of protecting? It's D1. | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:37 johnnywup wrote: I think S&B might just be stupid. in my experience he is not | ||
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On July 09 2013 02:40 strongandbig wrote: write it like you mean it or play so as not to get nuked, idk. there's no reason to believe you either, i'm much more okay with saving someone like mz who has been actively contributing in a townie way or with holding a save for later rather than saving you. I've already been nuked. I'm just gonna write a couple cases and when I flip town people will evaluate them. There's really no need to play so I do not get nuked, when I have already been nuked. Read thread bro | ||
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##unvote ##vote Dandel Ion | ||
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