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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 21:33 GMT
#1341
At least I feel pretty confident that one of DI/ON is scum. Feels too close otherwise. And yeah, just looking at the voters on DI makes him feel more townish.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 08 2013 21:33 GMT
#1342
On July 09 2013 06:31 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 06:26 austinmcc wrote:
I'm going to crack up and then be sad if I argue about Liquid City with Z-Boson and then this game becomes Liquid City 2.0.

I agree that I normally wouldn't jump right to claiming, especially in a game where we've had a good number of other claims. It's not...damning, I think I've seen some people rush to that and I have a pretty godawful history with claiming.

On July 09 2013 06:20 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
ON claimed a PR, i don't see hwy that wouldn't change your view of his alignment

'splain please

On July 09 2013 06:19 FirmTofu wrote:
I don't see how ON's roleclaim is at all alignment indicative. Scum could just as easily have the same role so if his claim changes your opinion of him, I find that very suspicious.

That being said, I am not entirely convinced that ON is scum. I wanted to have a wagon that was at least competitive to the Dandel Ion wagon so that we could get some discussion going.

I can no longer endorse the lynch on ON and I am going back to my best scumread on VA. I tried lynching suboptimally in my last game and it ended up flipping town. I'm not going to make that mistake again.
Who, in particular, do you find suspicious within the ON voters?

Can you give me a ... twitter length summary of why VA is scummy while I poke through filters?

I said "IF". I don't think anyone has switched their voted based on his claim yet, so I don't think anyone on the ON wagon is suspicious as of yet. I will look through it later, but for now, I would like to focus on why VA would be a better lynch than ON.

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 04:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Can we look at Vayne please? He still has not responded to my accusations.

Link 1
Link 2

Why point out that you find something very suspicious if it hasn't happened? Also, can you walk me through how the switching based on the claim would make you suspicious?
Fe fi fo fum.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 08 2013 21:33 GMT
#1343
What do you guys make of "life went nuts" post from ghost_403?

Also a bit about Unstable Nukes if it's not revealed in the flip. A player given one of these basically has to land the nuke before the end of the time limit or die. (fire before T-12 hours). We apparently have two of these people Chezinu and johnnywup with limit of 48 hours. Mine was at 72 hours. There might be another so you may be dealing with a Night 1 nuke.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 08 2013 21:34 GMT
#1344
Driving home, possibly missing lynch, possibly back just in time.
Fe fi fo fum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 08 2013 21:34 GMT
#1345
On July 09 2013 06:32 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
DI's a better lynch

##unvote
##vote Dandel Ion

I hate it when people do this...
Can you please explain why?
ugh...
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 21:35 GMT
#1346
On July 09 2013 06:34 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 06:32 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
DI's a better lynch

##unvote
##vote Dandel Ion

I hate it when people do this...
Can you please explain why?
ugh...


Indeed.....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 08 2013 21:35 GMT
#1347
Did ON defend himself?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 08 2013 21:36 GMT
#1348
On July 09 2013 06:31 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 06:25 geript wrote:
Not a solid "he's towny read" but much like WoS in TheGame, the claim is almost too bad to make him scum. I'm ok with lynching him on principle, but I'm just not as keen about it. The thing I liked about it was that most everyone who jumped ship I felt were town
How is the claim too bad?

On what principle do you want to lynch him?

It's half strung out. It's not as badly or poorly done as WoS in the game but it's not the typical scum claims I've seen either. Just feels like he had to really think about whether or not to claim. And the fact that he's thought about that makes him town instead of scum because scum would do anything to try and save themselves not bother thinking about it.

I want to lynch him because most of the people I trust are voting for him and not everyone is satisfied with his lynch. Those two things strongly increase his likelihood of being scum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 08 2013 21:37 GMT
#1349
Man I'm really glad Nirvana is getting nuked.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 08 2013 21:38 GMT
#1350
On July 09 2013 06:33 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 06:31 FirmTofu wrote:
On July 09 2013 06:26 austinmcc wrote:
I'm going to crack up and then be sad if I argue about Liquid City with Z-Boson and then this game becomes Liquid City 2.0.

I agree that I normally wouldn't jump right to claiming, especially in a game where we've had a good number of other claims. It's not...damning, I think I've seen some people rush to that and I have a pretty godawful history with claiming.

On July 09 2013 06:20 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
ON claimed a PR, i don't see hwy that wouldn't change your view of his alignment

'splain please

On July 09 2013 06:19 FirmTofu wrote:
I don't see how ON's roleclaim is at all alignment indicative. Scum could just as easily have the same role so if his claim changes your opinion of him, I find that very suspicious.

That being said, I am not entirely convinced that ON is scum. I wanted to have a wagon that was at least competitive to the Dandel Ion wagon so that we could get some discussion going.

I can no longer endorse the lynch on ON and I am going back to my best scumread on VA. I tried lynching suboptimally in my last game and it ended up flipping town. I'm not going to make that mistake again.
Who, in particular, do you find suspicious within the ON voters?

Can you give me a ... twitter length summary of why VA is scummy while I poke through filters?

I said "IF". I don't think anyone has switched their voted based on his claim yet, so I don't think anyone on the ON wagon is suspicious as of yet. I will look through it later, but for now, I would like to focus on why VA would be a better lynch than ON.

On July 09 2013 04:47 FirmTofu wrote:
Can we look at Vayne please? He still has not responded to my accusations.

Link 1
Link 2

Why point out that you find something very suspicious if it hasn't happened? Also, can you walk me through how the switching based on the claim would make you suspicious?

Assuming that ON is scum and we have scum on that wagon trying to bus him, scum could be using his roleclaim as a reason to back off. I wanted to anticipate this move and prevent it from happening.

Assuming that ON is town and we have scum on the wagon, scum would be looking for a reason to get off the wagon so that they wouldn't be associated with it when the flip comes around. This could be used an excuse to do so.

At this point, I don't think there are any scum on the ON lynch so my point happens to be a bit irrelevant.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 21:38 GMT
#1351
On July 09 2013 06:35 johnnywup wrote:
Did ON defend himself?


He roleclaimed and complained about not having enough time to play pro-town yet. If you count that as defending, then sure...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 21:39 GMT
#1352
On July 09 2013 06:37 geript wrote:
Man I'm really glad Nirvana is getting nuked.


100% agreed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 08 2013 21:39 GMT
#1353
8 vs 9
lol, clueless in The Prism!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 08 2013 21:39 GMT
#1354
@Tofu You vote is currently being 100% wasted on Vayne righ tnow. TIme to pick a horse in a 2 horse race.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 08 2013 21:40 GMT
#1355
Ok voting OriginalName. The vote for anything attitude is just that.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
July 08 2013 21:41 GMT
#1356
johnnywup gogo ON!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 08 2013 21:41 GMT
#1357
Liking ON lynch much more ATM. Changing it to that.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 08 2013 21:41 GMT
#1358
On July 09 2013 06:39 geript wrote:
@Tofu You vote is currently being 100% wasted on Vayne righ tnow. TIme to pick a horse in a 2 horse race.

lol, you saw my joke right?

he voted in vayne! muahha .. cause vayne voted DI, you gets it? funny right! lolol
lol, clueless in The Prism!
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
July 08 2013 21:42 GMT
#1359
On July 09 2013 06:39 geript wrote:
@Tofu You vote is currently being 100% wasted on Vayne righ tnow. TIme to pick a horse in a 2 horse race.

I'd rather stick to my guns this time around. Let's have a discussion and maybe you can convince me in the next 20 minutes.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
July 08 2013 21:42 GMT
#1360
On July 09 2013 06:42 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 06:39 geript wrote:
@Tofu You vote is currently being 100% wasted on Vayne righ tnow. TIme to pick a horse in a 2 horse race.

I'd rather stick to my guns this time around. Let's have a discussion and maybe you can convince me in the next 20 minutes.

You standing your ground firmly Tofu!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
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