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Newbie Mini Mafia XLIII

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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 18 2013 14:44 GMT
#11
/in I'm far to excited about this, having to suppress reaction because im in the middle of my class.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 18 2013 14:47 GMT
#12
On June 18 2013 16:35 Onegu wrote:
/in

Maybe this game I wont be only scum left after day one :-)


made me lol.

Yeah, a good lynch and a modkill fucked you over.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 21 2013 04:44 GMT
#65
On June 21 2013 13:25 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 13:07 Chromatically wrote:
Just in case you haven't already found this: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

For example, let's say that Player A is going to be lynched. He knows for sure that he will die. Right before he dies, he posts a giant case against Player X.
Player A flips as mafia.
What does this say about Player X? Is he more likely town or mafia now?

(someone else correct me if I'm off)


uuh, it's irrelevant, and you just try to read the player the case was built on normally, right?


Keep in mind thats hard as shit to do. Nobody busses a fellow mafia player when they know there dead.

But. what if the person knew i would think that and is doing it to fool me, so he DID make a case on his mafia buddy.

^wifom.

But what if they knew i was a smart town player and would made the case on a townie expecting me to lynch him because i would think he was clearing his scum buddy as town.

^recursive thinking/more wifom than i can handle.

But, my personal thinking would be that the player didnt make the case on his scum buddy, because one of the rules is to try to win the game. and damning your scumbuddy or bringing attention to him is a losing plan.


Somebody please translate this post into tangible thought.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 22 2013 03:55 GMT
#84
On June 22 2013 12:18 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
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On June 22 2013 12:03 Im a pedophile wrote:
/in


Easiest scum read of my life.


On June 22 2013 12:27 s0Lstice wrote:
is that the laguerta or whatever guy again?


On June 22 2013 12:29 hzflank wrote:
Well, if you let him in then it makes the day 1 lynch an easy decision.



All of this
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 22 2013 05:39 GMT
#92
Or...





its WIFOM...
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 23 2013 20:56 GMT
#112
Whoooo! glhf!! mid or feed.

Town op.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 01:50 GMT
#126
GL HF, im going to attempt to not set the bar of activity as high as i did last time, because there was no way in hell i could keep it up when i hit the weekend (and then work)

but this will be super fun.

and i still should be pretty active
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:03 GMT
#131
Spicy <3 hello again.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:20 GMT
#137
yup, im watching fullmetal alchemist then between episodes or every 5-10 min refreshing this.

Okay i lie, i have 2 windows open and im spamming F5 on this page.

Right now conversation is just picking up. Its smalltalk lol, then somebody is like: HEY FUCK YOU ##VOTE

then shit gets real
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:21 GMT
#138
On June 24 2013 11:15 FirmTofu wrote:
Scum Hunt Day 1:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 10:59 Chromatically wrote:
hey guys

Analysis: Trying to appear friendly with an innocuous greeting. Seems to project an air of insecurity.
Preliminary Conclusion: Scum

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:01 StiMaDDict wrote:
so it begins..

Analysis: Neutral statement of fact.
Preliminary Conclusion: Need more information.

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On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Analysis: Exudes power with strong capitalization techniques along with a greeting.
Preliminary Conclusion: A leader with a powerful role.

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On June 24 2013 11:03 Xzavier wrote:
Spicy <3 hello again.

Analysis: Trying to establish a connection with a player that he has interacted with prior to this game. A metagaming, manipulative sort of move.
Preliminary Conclusion: Scummy

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On June 24 2013 11:04 Chromatically wrote:
Why so scummy, Spicy?

Analysis: First baseless accusation. As the old chinese proverb states, "He who smelt it, dealt it."
Preliminary Conclusion: Scum

Suggested Lynch: Chromatically


jesus somebody went a long way to post alot of nothing xD
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#141
speculating here, mabye because it didnt work how he wanted it to or was uneffective?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:28 GMT
#142
thats why im trying a different approach, (plus there is no way i can respond to everything like i tried to last game)

im trying to think more than i post.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:31 GMT
#145
witch-hunting



witch-hunting everywhere....



i feel the need to say everything that pops into my mind. obviously
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 02:38 GMT
#148
On June 24 2013 11:36 Chromatically wrote:
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?


hes the sexiest motherfucker alive. obviously. also town.
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 03:35 GMT
#182
Fuck me, i just typed somethign really nice all out and accidentally switched windows. Take two:

First actual post of this game:

This is my first game involving tracker/watcher/ect.

Okay, from what iv learned so far is that town has some borderline useless roles (tracker watcher)
The opprotunities where they would be beneficial are so rare that its hardly useful, and with the exisance of a NN it could all be BS. So there really is barely any information to gain, and if you do get any of this slightly more than useless info, its unreliable.

But, the flipside. We have Parity cop who can effectively check two people every night. He shouldnt claim. Unless he is getting lynched (and we will still lynch you, mind this) You should say who you have found as scum, or confirmed town.

You can take your strongest town read and then strongest scum read, and compare them. if the are two different alignments, its pretty obvious who is who. IF you REALLY want to play like a traditional cop. then select one of the two names as yourself, this way you can see if they are the same alignment as you (town) or not (scum)

Seriously OP imo ^^

we also hav veteran/vigi who are strong roles as well. And as shown by last game, JK can be stupidly good as well.

I like this setup for town,

Framer does make things tricky, but the cop check is still reliable (odds of you two picking same target are rare, this is why you shouldnt claim if you think you have found 1 scum alone anyway, IF he was fraimed: our cop is dead and we lose a townie).

Framer is actually a rather strong role in and of itself.

I still like this setup. basically all the tracker/watcher/NN stuff looks borderline useless to me, as iv already stated. Obviously nobody should claim. But they arnt the strongest of roles.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 03:39 GMT
#185
On June 24 2013 12:37 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:34 Spicydinosaur wrote:
EBWOP: posted after hurricane posted his "case" against me.

I dont see how responding to two questions makes me scum now. He asked why so scummy which is a bs question so i responded as such. Then he asked why i didnt post right away... and i said why.


We have differing definitions of spam. For me, multiple posts of one-liners are spam. The first question you responded to didn't necessitate the response it got.

For reference:

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On June 24 2013 11:09 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:04 Chromatically wrote:
Why so scummy, Spicy?


Please point out and explain exactly what you think is scummy.


Kind of an over-reaction, no? You seem to be getting really defensive at everyone who mentions your name.


Your trying to attack him because he made a snarky comment about your spam/random accusation? wat?
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 03:40 GMT
#187
EBWOP: no, not even snarky. A PROPER response to a random accusation.

this is what i find weird.
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 03:49 GMT
#191
On June 24 2013 12:43 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:35 Xzavier wrote:
Fuck me, i just typed somethign really nice all out and accidentally switched windows. Take two:

First actual post of this game:

This is my first game involving tracker/watcher/ect.

Okay, from what iv learned so far is that town has some borderline useless roles (tracker watcher)
The opprotunities where they would be beneficial are so rare that its hardly useful, and with the exisance of a NN it could all be BS. So there really is barely any information to gain, and if you do get any of this slightly more than useless info, its unreliable.

But, the flipside. We have Parity cop who can effectively check two people every night. He shouldnt claim. Unless he is getting lynched (and we will still lynch you, mind this) You should say who you have found as scum, or confirmed town.

You can take your strongest town read and then strongest scum read, and compare them. if the are two different alignments, its pretty obvious who is who. IF you REALLY want to play like a traditional cop. then select one of the two names as yourself, this way you can see if they are the same alignment as you (town) or not (scum)

Seriously OP imo ^^

we also hav veteran/vigi who are strong roles as well. And as shown by last game, JK can be stupidly good as well.

I like this setup for town,

Framer does make things tricky, but the cop check is still reliable (odds of you two picking same target are rare, this is why you shouldnt claim if you think you have found 1 scum alone anyway, IF he was fraimed: our cop is dead and we lose a townie).

Framer is actually a rather strong role in and of itself.

I still like this setup. basically all the tracker/watcher/NN stuff looks borderline useless to me, as iv already stated. Obviously nobody should claim. But they arnt the strongest of roles.


When I first read the role descriptions, I thought the town roles were actually very powerful. Granted there's a bit of noise with the NN, but if the watcher correctly guesses who the mafia is killing, that's a guaranteed red name in his or her pocket. Tracker, I'm inclined to agree with you on, but I'm sure a good player will be able to get significant mileage out of that role, especially as it gets down to 2 mafia and the Tracker has a 50/50 shot at picking the person delivering the KP if they have good reads on who is scum.

Just making sure you understand the significant power of these roles in case this was a cry for help from a player who isn't sure how to wield their hammer.


If you dont know how to play your role, then you should ask your coach, not ask how to play your role in the game thread lol
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Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 04:37 GMT
#215
If i was parity cop i would claim NN lol. be the best fucking play. But seriously dont do this.

Im just reading from phone now. will post a case or two in the morning.

Whens the deadline?
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 24 2013 04:39 GMT
#217
I honestly dont put much weight into watcher tracker until the NN is dead. which is why he cant claim. those roles become useful once he dies
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