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On June 20 2013 05:42 Ange777 wrote: I played my first Newbie Game with FirmTofu :D OH HEY! How's it going? I love you <3 Have you been playing regularly? I'm trying mafia again because it's summer now and I have bunches of time. | ||
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On June 24 2013 04:44 geript wrote: The game will be starting tonight in [unparsable timestamp format] Could you update the op with the updated player list? Thanks! | ||
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I have never killed or assisted in killing ANYONE in my entire life. Thus, it would be presumptuous to accuse me of being a murderer or an accomplice to murder. Thank you for reading. | ||
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On June 24 2013 10:59 Chromatically wrote: hey guys Analysis: Trying to appear friendly with an innocuous greeting. Seems to project an air of insecurity. Preliminary Conclusion: Scum On June 24 2013 11:01 StiMaDDict wrote: so it begins.. Analysis: Neutral statement of fact. Preliminary Conclusion: Need more information. On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote: Hey everyone Analysis: Exudes power with strong capitalization techniques along with a greeting. Preliminary Conclusion: A leader with a powerful role. On June 24 2013 11:03 Xzavier wrote: Spicy <3 hello again. Analysis: Trying to establish a connection with a player that he has interacted with prior to this game. A metagaming, manipulative sort of move. Preliminary Conclusion: Scummy On June 24 2013 11:04 Chromatically wrote: Why so scummy, Spicy? Analysis: First baseless accusation. As the old chinese proverb states, "He who smelt it, dealt it." Preliminary Conclusion: Scum Suggested Lynch: Chromatically | ||
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On June 24 2013 11:21 Xzavier wrote: jesus somebody went a long way to post alot of nothing xD Lighten up bud, I was trying to make some conversation and get things started. | ||
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On June 24 2013 11:46 Hurricane Sponge wrote: The fun part comes with the Tracker and the Nosy Neighbor (and by extension Parity Cop). The Tracker should secretly track the Nosy Neighbor. AGAIN, MR. OR MRS. TRACKER: DO NOT CLAIM NOW. If we have a Nosy Neighbor, they should claim IMMEDIATELY. Once the Tracker can confirm that the Nosy Neighbor is in fact moving around at night, but not visiting the person who got Mafia-killed, WE CAN ESTABLISH HIM AS TOWN. This is a big deal. The Parity Cop can then tag the confirmed Nosy Neighbor as Town and start measuring up suspects against them. If he gets a 'Different' claim, the other person is Scum. If he gets 'Same', they are town. Whoa, whoa, slow down there bud, the Nosy Neighbor should NOT be claiming right now. Have a look at the rolecard again. On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote: Alpha 5 -- Nosy Neighbour You visit a random person at night and do nothing, but can be tracked there and watched visiting. You are aware of this behaviour, but are not able to stop it or even control it. See that? The part where it says RANDOM? The dude can't pick who he visits, so there's no point in revealing him. He might be visiting someone who isn't mafia-killed, sure, but he could just as easily be one of the mafia roles that doesn't kill. I appreciate the sentiment, but your plan is ill-advised and short-sighted. You also are under the assumption that we have a tracker and that this tracker is going to reveal on day 2 to confirm the nosy neighbor as town. It's all very presumptuous and ill-conceived. | ||
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On June 24 2013 12:07 hzflank wrote: But on day one, is that not all we have to go off of? No, Hurricane Sponge kindly provided some objectionable material for us to look over. Take some to go over some of Spicy Dinosaur's posts as well. | ||
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On June 24 2013 12:10 Hurricane Sponge wrote: Alright, it appears that my plan has oversights that are unacceptable risks at this juncture. Thank you to the veteran players (or just simply better players) who found them so quickly. Personally, I'm more concerned about Chromatic's point (regarding letting mafia call their shot on blues) than the risk of a mafia-tracker claiming NN, but I will not protest if we continue the scum-hunt without regard for my posted plan. To me, everyone who is posting one-liners looks spammy to me, but I think the 'everyone is scum until they convince me otherwise' mentality isn't the worst thing in the world. Spicy and Xzavier are on my radar for the fluff and nonsense at the beginning. Chromatically and FirmTofu seem the most town as they were very quick to point out what were (in their view) flaws in a plan to move forward that may have compromised the town. For the time being, I am willing to forgive you for your plan because I honestly believe it was a newbie mistake. However, I reserve the right to change my opinion! | ||
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On June 24 2013 12:24 Hurricane Sponge wrote: The Case on Xzavier being spammy: None of this is useable for me. That could just be me sucking at reads (no, really. This is a possibility), but none of this material brings anything new to the table for me or encourages serious scum-hunting discussion. Yeah, he's spammy, sure. Yeah, he hasn't contributed much, sure. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who haven't contributed and spam is ok at this point because there isn't a whole lot to talk about. I don't this is sufficient evidence to justify a lynch. | ||
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On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote: The Players
We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow. | ||
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In all of his posts, he is extremely defensive. At the slightest mention of someone accusing him of anything, he flares up in his own defense. This could be due to his personality or it could be that he is extremely afraid of getting lynched. If it is indeed the latter, he is likely to be a powerful role, town or mafia. This is my preliminary assessment. (It's funny that this real analysis is in agreement with my fluff analysis at the beginning of the game) | ||
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On June 24 2013 12:39 Spicydinosaur wrote: I do this in all my games, check out Les Mafiafor a good example. Though i don't see how that is alignment indicative as no one wants to get lynched. I won't bother looking at your past games, because I believe you should only be judged on your actions in this game. As I mentioned before, you could very well have a defensive personality, so I am not saying you are definitely scum or anything like that. | ||
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Quoted Player List for reference: [QUOTE]On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote: The Players
[/QUOTE] Lurkers: fyfy, Aquanium, LoneMeow, StiMaDDict, Alakaslam (Sorry, I know you said you were eating, but for all intents and purposes, you haven't posted at all.) Let's keep a close watch on these guys before we start voting. | ||
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On June 24 2013 13:22 hzflank wrote: At the moment I am looking at FirmTofu. His chain of attack and defense looks like: Attack Chromatically Attack Xzavier Attack Hurricane Attack Spicy Defend Hurricane Defend Xzavier Attack Spicy For some reason the defenses seem a little out of place to me, especially the defense on Xzavier. On the other hand I believe Hurricane to be town as if he were scum then he is very brave to make the first post that he did. I am also very aware that I made an slightly extended attack on Spicy, who now seems to be FirmTofu's main target. I am wondering if he thinks Spicy is a good lynch target because he can count on my vote.(1) He has also said twice that we should only use information from this game and not previous games. I think town should have access to as much information as possible in order to lynch scum. Therefore to me, FirmTofu is currently the scummiest player.(2) You are taking an extremely simplified approach to analyze my actions. I am not "attacking" or "defending" anyone. I am stating my opinions on how various people are behaving. If you can't distinguish between the two, we have a serious problem here. You can't say that my "defenses" are out of place without even looking at the context of the situation. Read my quote, see if it makes sense to you, and form an opinion based on that. Furthermore, this post is as scummy as scummy gets. You state that you can side with me as I pursue a lynch on Spicy(see 1), but you also consider me to be the scummiest player(see 2). How are these two chain of thoughts compatible? | ||
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T QUOTE MESSED UP BBCODE. I have the bbcode fixed below, so if you want to quote the list, use this. | ||
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On June 24 2013 15:21 Aquanim wrote: @FirmTofu: What is your read on Chromatically? Give me a sec, I'm reading up the thread again. | ||
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Let's have a look at how a roleclaim would play out for scum and town separately so it is easier to visualize. Event: NN roleclaims Scum Information Set: Know who the NN is with a rather high degree of certainty Town Information Set: Could be an NN or could be scum faking NN. Learn absolutely nothing. Just based on the information that each side gains, we can see that scum takes a clear lead instantaneously. They will choose to avoid the NN if they have a Tracker and can proceed to eliminate one person from the long list of priority targets. Town remains confused as to the NN's alignment and ends up in a shitty situation. If you can find a way to resolve this issue, Aquanim, I would love to hear it. Otherwise, I have you pegged as scum. | ||
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