If Onegu is town then his strongest town read knows 100% that Onegu is town.

I think I know who Onegu's strongest town read is, so I will be watching their vote.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:03 GMT

#1072

Firm, you were right the first time. Onegu or Alakaslam is scum.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:04 GMT

#1073

Onegu as a Watcher could not of visited both Alakaslam and Hurricane in one night.

One of them is lying.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:09 GMT

#1078

Firm, slow down and lets think it through. My first point:

If Onegu is town then his strongest town read can vouch for him. However, that means we reveal a blue role.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:11 GMT

#1079

It also means that there is no chance of a mislynch on Onegu. The outcomes are:

Lynch scum Onegu.
Lynch scum Alakaslam.
Lynch scum Alakaslam while revealing a blue role.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 28 2013 06:11 GMT

#1080

or Lynch town Alakaslam.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:13 GMT

#1084

On June 28 2013 15:11 Alakaslam wrote:
If anyone is wondering, why I watched Onegu is within. + Show Spoiler +

He so threw off my game that I needed to know more about him. Was he my teacher and critic or my puppet master? Teacher and mentor has been (well duh, Hapahauli and ObviousOne, but I am too stupid for it to work) but Hurricane. Found what I thought would be nothin now I am the key to catching Onegu. Who would have thought I could finally be useful to town.

Be careful with your words. You claimed to Track Onegu, not to Watch him.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 28 2013 06:14 GMT

#1085

On June 28 2013 15:13 Alakaslam wrote:

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Excuse me but what happens with (Hypothetical, I KNoW now) lynch town Onegu?

If Onegu is town then a blue town is in the position to vouch for him, by revealing their role.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:15 GMT

#1087

On June 28 2013 15:13 FirmTofu wrote:

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The problem with this logic is that you are assuming his strongest town read is town. What if his strongest town read is mafia?

In fact, wouldn't it be more likely that his strongest town read was mafia if he himself was mafia? His thought process would be, "I'll claim watcher and my mafia scumbuddy can vouch for me so I don't get lynched today."

It all comes down to who you believe. I trust Alakaslam a lot more than I do Onegu. You are welcome to decide for yourself, but I don't think I can be convinced to change my vote at this point.

If his strongest read is scum and we mislynch Alakaslam, then we have 2 100% confirmed scum reads.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:22 GMT

#1095

On June 28 2013 15:17 FirmTofu wrote:

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Are you suggesting we risk a mislynch to confirm 2 mafia? I'm not entirely sure if you're being serious.

Not risk. If someone claims to have visited Alakaslam last night then either the claimer + Onegu are scum or Alaka is scum.

It would be stupid for a scum to make this claim. That would mean we mislych today but then get back to back scum lynches, leaving the town in a very very strong position.

It is worth sacrificing 1 town to get 2 scum, if it comes to it.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:30 GMT

#1102

On June 28 2013 15:27 FirmTofu wrote:

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Yeah, but we don't have to sacrifice the townie at all.

Lynching Onegu gives us more information than lynching Alakaslam.
If Onegu flips town, we lynch Alakaslam.
If Onegu flips scum, we lynch his "best town read"
If Alakaslam flips town, we lynch Onegu.
If Alakaslam flips scum, we are back to square 1.

No. If someone claims for Onegu and we lynch Alaka who flips green then we lynch Onegu and his best town read.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:31 GMT

#1104

On June 28 2013 15:28 Alakaslam wrote:
Hz, which town do you want to info lynch, assuming the impossible that we both are? If you do not answer people will know you are scum.

I have not yet decided. There is a lot of new information to digest.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 28 2013 06:34 GMT

#1106

Let me put this simply:

If (IF IF IF, dont ignore this IF) Onegu is set to be lyched, then someone may or may not claim that they visited Alakaslam last night.

If someone does not make that claim then we lynch Onegu.

If someone does make that claim then we lynch Alakaslam.

If the claimer was telling the truth then Alakaslam flips red.

If the claimer was lying then it is 100% confirmed that both the claimer and Onegu are scum, so we lynch then on days 3 and 4. That would probably leave us at 3 town and 1 scum remaining.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 28 2013 06:35 GMT

#1108

That would lead to a day 5 lylo at 2 town 1 scum.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 28 2013 06:39 GMT

#1113

Also, that assumed that all the night kills go through. We have no indication of whether or not there is a jailkeeper or a veteran. If we have one of those roles then we might be in a better position on day 5.

hzflank

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June 28 2013 06:39 GMT

#1114

On June 28 2013 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:

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What is that please?

Lylo = Lynch correct or lose the game.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 28 2013 06:40 GMT

#1116