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On June 28 2013 15:43 FirmTofu wrote:
@hzflank
Your argument seems to be that a blue claim may come out to save Onegu from a lynch today.
I respectfully disagree. Based on current information, a scumbuddy of Onegu's would never come out and guarantee his own demise the following 2 days(along with Onegu's). It is completely irrational.
Scum should cut their losses at Onegu and force us to scumhunt to find the last few of them.
This is a newbie game why didnt you allow this to happen? I would have giggled with glee.
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Exactly, therefore the blue claim is more likely to be scum than town. Your above scenarios are correct if it is 50/50. If there is a blue claim I see it as >50% town.
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On June 28 2013 15:43 FirmTofu wrote:
@hzflank
Your argument seems to be that a blue claim may come out to save Onegu from a lynch today.
I respectfully disagree. Based on current information, a scumbuddy of Onegu's would never come out and guarantee his own demise the following 2 days(along with Onegu's). It is completely irrational.
Scum should cut their losses at Onegu and force us to scumhunt to find the last few of them.
In the event that a blue claim actually occurs to save Onegu, I will consider it an actual blue and will switch my vote to Alakaslam. Barring that, my vote stays on Onegu.
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On June 28 2013 15:45 hzflank wrote:
Exactly, therefore the blue claim is more likely to be scum than town. Your above scenarios are correct if it is 50/50. If there is a blue claim I see it as >50% town.
Agreed.
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On June 28 2013 15:44 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 15:39 hzflank wrote:On June 28 2013 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:On June 28 2013 15:35 hzflank wrote:
That would lead to a day 5 lylo at 2 town 1 scum. What is that please? Lylo = Lynch correct or lose the game. That is not what I asked you what would lea to Lylo? I need to know how badly I need to defend my case
A town lynch on day 2, scum lynches on days 3 and 4 and town nightkills on nights 2, 3 and 4 leads to a 2:1 day 5 lylo.
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And if there is no blue claim then Onegu is 100% scum, agreed?
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On June 28 2013 15:47 hzflank wrote:
And if there is no blue claim then Onegu is 100% scum, agreed?
I would deem it necessary, yes. Unless the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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With that said, I am not voting yet. I am going to sheep someone. I have my reasons.
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@Onegu
You have said you don't want to reveal who you saw visiting Alakaslam because you don't want to out a town power role, and you believe that the person you saw is town.
The possible town power roles in this game are:
Veteran - doesn't visit anybody
Vigilante - Alakaslam is not dead so it can't be this
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one
Jailkeeper - If somebody in fact JK'd Alakaslam they should claim and he will be confirmed scum
Tracker - If there was another tracker in the game they would counterclaim Onegu
Watcher - there won't be more than one
Therefore, there are NO town power roles which you can expose by claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. The only possibilities are Nosy Neighbour or a scum power role.
I see no possible downside to you claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. I would like for you to do this.
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Town, this is really important.
Listen to tofu and hz. Onegu lynch will (somehow, you still haven't answered how we know who his strongest town read is so that we lynch him when Onegu flips red) lead to info anyway, and stun and meow have lurked so much that surviving a Lylo looks too hard for me to be willing to see town risk it. Man I wish I could put some strength behind my word! Look, if I explained (again- rolleyes) how I broke down into a small little fluffy man, would that help anyone?
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@Aqua, I got some mechanics confirmation from the host.
He could of seen a Tracker or a Jailkeeper.
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On June 28 2013 15:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Town, this is really important.
Listen to tofu and hz. Onegu lynch will (somehow, you still haven't answered how we know who his strongest town read is so that we lynch him when Onegu flips red) lead to info anyway, and stun and meow have lurked so much that surviving a Lylo looks too hard for me to be willing to see town risk it. Man I wish I could put some strength behind my word! Look, if I explained (again- rolleyes) how I broke down into a small little fluffy man, would that help anyone?
I believe his "strongest town read" is SpicyDinosaur due to the process of elimination I mentioned before. I will quote it for you if you would like.
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On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one
Not true. The host has stated that there can be more than one of the same blue role.
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If you are JK do NOT claim!
Talk to a coach if you need to.
I do not want to see a Jailkeeper claim right now. Please!
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On June 28 2013 15:51 hzflank wrote:
@Aqua, I got some mechanics confirmation from the host.
He could of seen a Tracker or a Jailkeeper.
This is true. However, if he did see a Tracker or a Jailkeeper, whoever that is should claim as they will 100% prove that Alakaslam is scum.
Revealing a power role is definitely worth a 100% confirmed lynch.
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On June 28 2013 15:54 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one
Not true. The host has stated that there can be more than one of the same blue role.
Yes, the hosts do state that. There never is in a normal mini. EVER. Trust me on this.
Even if there is, I think that a parity cop check on Alakaslam is conceivably worth the claim at this point.
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If you visited Alakaslam last night please do not claim at the moment. Talk to a coach if you do not believe me.
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On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
@Onegu
You have said you don't want to reveal who you saw visiting Alakaslam because you don't want to out a town power role, and you believe that the person you saw is town.
The possible town power roles in this game are:
Veteran - doesn't visit anybody
Vigilante - Alakaslam is not dead so it can't be this
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one
Jailkeeper - If somebody in fact JK'd Alakaslam they should claim and he will be confirmed scum
Tracker - If there was another tracker in the game they would counterclaim Onegu
Watcher - there won't be more than one
Therefore, there are NO town power roles which you can expose by claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. The only possibilities are Nosy Neighbour or a scum power role.
I see no possible downside to you claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. I would like for you to do this.
I would kiss your feet for this aqua if not for the mod note that said there can be as many of anything.
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On June 28 2013 15:57 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
@Onegu
You have said you don't want to reveal who you saw visiting Alakaslam because you don't want to out a town power role, and you believe that the person you saw is town.
The possible town power roles in this game are:
Veteran - doesn't visit anybody
Vigilante - Alakaslam is not dead so it can't be this
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one
Jailkeeper - If somebody in fact JK'd Alakaslam they should claim and he will be confirmed scum
Tracker - If there was another tracker in the game they would counterclaim Onegu
Watcher - there won't be more than one
Therefore, there are NO town power roles which you can expose by claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. The only possibilities are Nosy Neighbour or a scum power role.
I see no possible downside to you claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. I would like for you to do this. I would kiss your feet for this aqua if not for the mod note that said there can be as many of anything.
On June 28 2013 15:56 Aquanim wrote:
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Yes, the hosts do state that. There never is in a normal mini. EVER. Trust me on this.
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EPT
