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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 06:45 GMT
#1121
On June 28 2013 15:43 FirmTofu wrote:
@hzflank

Your argument seems to be that a blue claim may come out to save Onegu from a lynch today.

I respectfully disagree. Based on current information, a scumbuddy of Onegu's would never come out and guarantee his own demise the following 2 days(along with Onegu's). It is completely irrational.

Scum should cut their losses at Onegu and force us to scumhunt to find the last few of them.

This is a newbie game why didnt you allow this to happen? I would have giggled with glee.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:45 GMT
#1122
Exactly, therefore the blue claim is more likely to be scum than town. Your above scenarios are correct if it is 50/50. If there is a blue claim I see it as >50% town.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 06:45 GMT
#1123
On June 28 2013 15:43 FirmTofu wrote:
@hzflank

Your argument seems to be that a blue claim may come out to save Onegu from a lynch today.

I respectfully disagree. Based on current information, a scumbuddy of Onegu's would never come out and guarantee his own demise the following 2 days(along with Onegu's). It is completely irrational.

Scum should cut their losses at Onegu and force us to scumhunt to find the last few of them.

In the event that a blue claim actually occurs to save Onegu, I will consider it an actual blue and will switch my vote to Alakaslam. Barring that, my vote stays on Onegu.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 06:46 GMT
#1124
On June 28 2013 15:45 hzflank wrote:
Exactly, therefore the blue claim is more likely to be scum than town. Your above scenarios are correct if it is 50/50. If there is a blue claim I see it as >50% town.

Agreed.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:46 GMT
#1125
On June 28 2013 15:44 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 15:39 hzflank wrote:
On June 28 2013 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 28 2013 15:35 hzflank wrote:
That would lead to a day 5 lylo at 2 town 1 scum.

What is that please?


Lylo = Lynch correct or lose the game.

That is not what I asked you what would lea to Lylo? I need to know how badly I need to defend my case


A town lynch on day 2, scum lynches on days 3 and 4 and town nightkills on nights 2, 3 and 4 leads to a 2:1 day 5 lylo.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:47 GMT
#1126
And if there is no blue claim then Onegu is 100% scum, agreed?
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 06:48 GMT
#1127
On June 28 2013 15:47 hzflank wrote:
And if there is no blue claim then Onegu is 100% scum, agreed?

I would deem it necessary, yes. Unless the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:48 GMT
#1128
With that said, I am not voting yet. I am going to sheep someone. I have my reasons.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 28 2013 06:50 GMT
#1129
@Onegu

You have said you don't want to reveal who you saw visiting Alakaslam because you don't want to out a town power role, and you believe that the person you saw is town.

The possible town power roles in this game are:

Veteran - doesn't visit anybody

Vigilante - Alakaslam is not dead so it can't be this

Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one

Jailkeeper - If somebody in fact JK'd Alakaslam they should claim and he will be confirmed scum

Tracker - If there was another tracker in the game they would counterclaim Onegu

Watcher - there won't be more than one

Therefore, there are NO town power roles which you can expose by claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. The only possibilities are Nosy Neighbour or a scum power role.

I see no possible downside to you claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. I would like for you to do this.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 06:51 GMT
#1130
Town, this is really important.

Listen to tofu and hz. Onegu lynch will (somehow, you still haven't answered how we know who his strongest town read is so that we lynch him when Onegu flips red) lead to info anyway, and stun and meow have lurked so much that surviving a Lylo looks too hard for me to be willing to see town risk it. Man I wish I could put some strength behind my word! Look, if I explained (again- rolleyes) how I broke down into a small little fluffy man, would that help anyone?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:51 GMT
#1131
@Aqua, I got some mechanics confirmation from the host.

He could of seen a Tracker or a Jailkeeper.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 06:53 GMT
#1132
On June 28 2013 15:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Town, this is really important.

Listen to tofu and hz. Onegu lynch will (somehow, you still haven't answered how we know who his strongest town read is so that we lynch him when Onegu flips red) lead to info anyway, and stun and meow have lurked so much that surviving a Lylo looks too hard for me to be willing to see town risk it. Man I wish I could put some strength behind my word! Look, if I explained (again- rolleyes) how I broke down into a small little fluffy man, would that help anyone?

I believe his "strongest town read" is SpicyDinosaur due to the process of elimination I mentioned before. I will quote it for you if you would like.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
June 28 2013 06:54 GMT
#1133
On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one

Not true. The host has stated that there can be more than one of the same blue role.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:55 GMT
#1134
If you are JK do NOT claim!

Talk to a coach if you need to.

I do not want to see a Jailkeeper claim right now. Please!
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 28 2013 06:55 GMT
#1135
On June 28 2013 15:51 hzflank wrote:
@Aqua, I got some mechanics confirmation from the host.

He could of seen a Tracker or a Jailkeeper.

This is true. However, if he did see a Tracker or a Jailkeeper, whoever that is should claim as they will 100% prove that Alakaslam is scum.

Revealing a power role is definitely worth a 100% confirmed lynch.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 28 2013 06:56 GMT
#1136
On June 28 2013 15:54 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one

Not true. The host has stated that there can be more than one of the same blue role.

Yes, the hosts do state that. There never is in a normal mini. EVER. Trust me on this.

Even if there is, I think that a parity cop check on Alakaslam is conceivably worth the claim at this point.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
June 28 2013 06:57 GMT
#1137
If you visited Alakaslam last night please do not claim at the moment. Talk to a coach if you do not believe me.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 06:57 GMT
#1138
On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
@Onegu

You have said you don't want to reveal who you saw visiting Alakaslam because you don't want to out a town power role, and you believe that the person you saw is town.

The possible town power roles in this game are:

Veteran - doesn't visit anybody

Vigilante - Alakaslam is not dead so it can't be this

Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one

Jailkeeper - If somebody in fact JK'd Alakaslam they should claim and he will be confirmed scum

Tracker - If there was another tracker in the game they would counterclaim Onegu

Watcher - there won't be more than one

Therefore, there are NO town power roles which you can expose by claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. The only possibilities are Nosy Neighbour or a scum power role.

I see no possible downside to you claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. I would like for you to do this.

I would kiss your feet for this aqua if not for the mod note that said there can be as many of anything.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 28 2013 06:57 GMT
#1139
Wow ninja x like 3
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
June 28 2013 06:58 GMT
#1140
On June 28 2013 15:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 15:50 Aquanim wrote:
@Onegu

You have said you don't want to reveal who you saw visiting Alakaslam because you don't want to out a town power role, and you believe that the person you saw is town.

The possible town power roles in this game are:

Veteran - doesn't visit anybody

Vigilante - Alakaslam is not dead so it can't be this

Parity Cop - is already dead, there won't be more than one

Jailkeeper - If somebody in fact JK'd Alakaslam they should claim and he will be confirmed scum

Tracker - If there was another tracker in the game they would counterclaim Onegu

Watcher - there won't be more than one

Therefore, there are NO town power roles which you can expose by claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. The only possibilities are Nosy Neighbour or a scum power role.

I see no possible downside to you claiming who you saw visit Alakaslam. I would like for you to do this.

I would kiss your feet for this aqua if not for the mod note that said there can be as many of anything.

On June 28 2013 15:56 Aquanim wrote:
...
Yes, the hosts do state that. There never is in a normal mini. EVER. Trust me on this.
...

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