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On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu
Agreed. Let's go.
##Vote: Onegu
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@FirmTofu
Don't solicit votes this time. I want to see people's instincts.
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On June 27 2013 11:10 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
@FirmTofu
Don't solicit votes this time. I want to see people's instincts.
As do I. I'm waiting, just as you are.
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Considering that a mislynch today leads to a day 3 lylo, I am going to withhold my vote until I have organised cases about all the contenders. I will try to get a vote in by the half way point, though.
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On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu
As far as I can tell, your entire town read on Spicy is based on Chromatically being the shot rather than you. As you said, he was in general the best shot. I don't see how this argument makes sense at all.
hz and onegu are my worst reads. You're on your own for them until I can collect my thoughts better. I haven't breadcrumbed some secret message about them, so if I'm about to go down, you all have to sort out that mess on your own.
I'm going to need an actual case from you on Onegu, including a reply to my comments about him here before I take your vote seriously. For that matter, I'd like to see your opinion on my comments on Spicy, too.
If we start a "wagon of justice" on Onegu, ride it all day, and he flips town, we're pretty screwed. I'd like to at least discuss other options.
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I knew it was inevitable, but hell, I was REALLY hoping he would flip VT. This situation is problematic. We really needed a parity cop to guide us on our way to victory 
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And I know it's tempting, but people should refrain from speculating on the Power Roles at this time.
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On June 27 2013 11:12 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu As far as I can tell, your entire town read on Spicy is based on Chromatically being the shot rather than you. As you said, he was in general the best shot. I don't see how this argument makes sense at all. Show nested quote +
hz and onegu are my worst reads. You're on your own for them until I can collect my thoughts better. I haven't breadcrumbed some secret message about them, so if I'm about to go down, you all have to sort out that mess on your own.
I'm going to need an actual case from you on Onegu, including a reply to my comments about him here before I take your vote seriously. For that matter, I'd like to see your opinion on my comments on Spicy, too. If we start a "wagon of justice" on Onegu, ride it all day, and he flips town, we're pretty screwed. I'd like to at least discuss other options.
Then discuss other options. What's your case?
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On June 27 2013 11:12 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu As far as I can tell, your entire town read on Spicy is based on Chromatically being the shot rather than you. As you said, he was in general the best shot. I don't see how this argument makes sense at all. Show nested quote +
hz and onegu are my worst reads. You're on your own for them until I can collect my thoughts better. I haven't breadcrumbed some secret message about them, so if I'm about to go down, you all have to sort out that mess on your own.
I'm going to need an actual case from you on Onegu, including a reply to my comments about him here before I take your vote seriously. For that matter, I'd like to see your opinion on my comments on Spicy, too. If we start a "wagon of justice" on Onegu, ride it all day, and he flips town, we're pretty screwed. I'd like to at least discuss other options.
Aqua, Chromatically and I have made the case for Onegu's lynch extremely clear. Please read our respective filters for more information. I wouldn't expect Hurricane to be the one to justify the wagon to you. You can just see that confirmed town flip Parity Cop Chromatically wanted him dead.
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For the moment:
##Vote: StiMaDDict
This is no more nor less than a pressure vote, which is something I don't normally do, but we badly, badly need StiMaDDict to get in here and play the game seriously. If nothing else, I refuse to let him win by playing like this if he's scum.
I will continue to assess Onegu and Spicy (as well as other vague reads).
Disturbing thought: If we mislynch and StiMaDDict (or any other townie) is modkilled we lose the game. Immediately.
Don't edit any posts guys 
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On June 27 2013 11:18 Aquanim wrote:For the moment: ##Vote: StiMaDDictThis is no more nor less than a pressure vote, which is something I don't normally do, but we badly, badly need StiMaDDict to get in here and play the game seriously. If nothing else, I refuse to let him win by playing like this if he's scum. I will continue to assess Onegu and Spicy (as well as other vague reads). Disturbing thought: If we mislynch and StiMaDDict (or any other townie) is modkilled we lose the game. Immediately. Don't edit any posts guys
A perfectly valid decision. Unlike Spicy and Onegu I will not accuse you of being scum because you voted StiM instead of LoneMeow. God, that argument was such a waste of time.
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On June 27 2013 11:15 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 11:12 Aquanim wrote:On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu As far as I can tell, your entire town read on Spicy is based on Chromatically being the shot rather than you. As you said, he was in general the best shot. I don't see how this argument makes sense at all.
hz and onegu are my worst reads. You're on your own for them until I can collect my thoughts better. I haven't breadcrumbed some secret message about them, so if I'm about to go down, you all have to sort out that mess on your own.
I'm going to need an actual case from you on Onegu, including a reply to my comments about him here before I take your vote seriously. For that matter, I'd like to see your opinion on my comments on Spicy, too. If we start a "wagon of justice" on Onegu, ride it all day, and he flips town, we're pretty screwed. I'd like to at least discuss other options. Aqua, Chromatically and I have made the case for Onegu's lynch extremely clear. Please read our respective filters for more information. I wouldn't expect Hurricane to be the one to justify the wagon to you. You can just see that confirmed town flip Parity Cop Chromatically wanted him dead.
Being confirmed town makes him sincere, not right. Every townie has believed cases from the bottom of their heart and been wrong. Hell, Chromatic has done it once this game already. I'm not going to lynch Onegu just on his say-so.
As I've said, I can easily see Onegu as an newby and ineffective town player, as I suggested earlier. It's on you, Hurricane, and anyone else who votes Onegu to convince me that I'm wrong; I've done my work on Onegu and come to my own conclusions, it's not my job to convince myself that you're right.
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Wow. Aqua might have been scum all along. This looks like a desperate vote to try to get ME SPECIFICALLY to pull off the onegu wagon.
Going to revisit all the Aqua heat. Anyone care to update their case on him?
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EBWOP: I have read your cases made during the night already. My impression was that they give a pretty convincing narrative as to how Onegu could be scum, but they don't show that he can't be town.
Show me things Onegu has done that there is no reasonable town explanation for and I'll take them into consideration.
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On June 27 2013 11:22 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Wow. Aqua might have been scum all along. This looks like a desperate vote to try to get ME SPECIFICALLY to pull off the onegu wagon.
Going to revisit all the Aqua heat. Anyone care to update their case on him?
I'd rather first make a convincing case for Onegu being mafia, and see his reponse. We can form a case on Aqua based on that.
@Aqua I will try and make the case that Onegu cannot be town to convince you. It'll take some time, so be patient.
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On June 27 2013 11:15 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 11:12 Aquanim wrote:On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu As far as I can tell, your entire town read on Spicy is based on Chromatically being the shot rather than you. As you said, he was in general the best shot. I don't see how this argument makes sense at all.
hz and onegu are my worst reads. You're on your own for them until I can collect my thoughts better. I haven't breadcrumbed some secret message about them, so if I'm about to go down, you all have to sort out that mess on your own.
I'm going to need an actual case from you on Onegu, including a reply to my comments about him here before I take your vote seriously. For that matter, I'd like to see your opinion on my comments on Spicy, too. If we start a "wagon of justice" on Onegu, ride it all day, and he flips town, we're pretty screwed. I'd like to at least discuss other options. Aqua, Chromatically and I have made the case for Onegu's lynch extremely clear. Please read our respective filters for more information. I wouldn't expect Hurricane to be the one to justify the wagon to you. You can just see that confirmed town flip Parity Cop Chromatically wanted him dead.
Chrom did not seem to think Onegu was scum. He actually thought Spicy and Lone were the most likely scum.
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On June 27 2013 11:29 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 11:15 FirmTofu wrote:On June 27 2013 11:12 Aquanim wrote:On June 27 2013 11:06 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Spicy is town. This is a winnable game. It's super bad luck that our best role happened to be our most skilled player (easily drawing the mafia shot), but the game is close to being figured out. I guess I'll start the wagon, if no one objects.
##Vote: Onegu As far as I can tell, your entire town read on Spicy is based on Chromatically being the shot rather than you. As you said, he was in general the best shot. I don't see how this argument makes sense at all.
hz and onegu are my worst reads. You're on your own for them until I can collect my thoughts better. I haven't breadcrumbed some secret message about them, so if I'm about to go down, you all have to sort out that mess on your own.
I'm going to need an actual case from you on Onegu, including a reply to my comments about him here before I take your vote seriously. For that matter, I'd like to see your opinion on my comments on Spicy, too. If we start a "wagon of justice" on Onegu, ride it all day, and he flips town, we're pretty screwed. I'd like to at least discuss other options. Aqua, Chromatically and I have made the case for Onegu's lynch extremely clear. Please read our respective filters for more information. I wouldn't expect Hurricane to be the one to justify the wagon to you. You can just see that confirmed town flip Parity Cop Chromatically wanted him dead. Chrom did not seem to think Onegu was scum. He actually thought Spicy and Lone were the most likely scum.
You could not be more wrong. Keep reading.
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EBWOP
Sorry my bad, that was Aqua who thought that Lone and Spicy were scummier than Onegu.
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On June 27 2013 11:31 hzflank wrote:
EBWOP
Sorry my bad, that was Aqua who thought that Lone and Spicy were scummier than Onegu.
Still wrong. My read on LoneMeow is null.
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The caffeine should kick in at some point.
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