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On June 30 2013 10:30 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 10:27 hzflank wrote:But Firm dismissed my theory so easily  Firm and I are like polar opposites. I didn't dismiss your theory at all. I just don't think you should see a conspiracy theory as the most likely course of action for the scum team and act according to the assumption that it occurred. Occam's razor!
Then Hurricane should be in 30 minutes.
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Regarding Stim:
He should of been a policy lynch on day 1, but that's hindsight for you.
We, as town, are now losing horribly. We may need to take risks. I do not have a confirmed read on Stim, but if it comes to it I think that it is worth risking a town read on him.
Stim and Aqua cannot both be scum (I have said that before). It is possible that they are both town, though.
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On June 30 2013 10:38 Aquanim wrote: Even if scum hit the Veteran they still only need one mislynch to win. The only difference is that there will be one more townie and a confirmed townie in the game, who will probably die the next night.
hzflank, FirmTofu and Hurricane are the obvious shots for scum to take. They will need to take at least two shots between now and the next lynch that isn't Onegu.
Why would scum not shoot someone who might be the Veteran tonight and get it over with? If they happen to shoot the Veteran they can shoot him again and kill him before he gets to directly control the next day's real lynch discussions as a confirmed townie.
Good point. But it would still be much better for scum to kill the NN now while they have that information. If there is a Vig shot tonight (on Onegu) then they do not have to worry about hitting a Vet (too many power roles?). Why risk wasting a night kill when they dont have to?
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On June 30 2013 10:40 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 10:29 hzflank wrote: Hurricane: If you do not die, why are they risky targeting a Vet over a known NN? Honestly, I don't think they gave disproportionate consideration to there being a Vet. I know I didn't.
Give them more credit. They managed to hit the cop day 1. They are thinking about their shots.
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We had a cop, a Tracker and an NN. It was reasonable to assume that we have another power role, and we know it is not a JK or Watcher.
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Firm is stubborn (as opposed to me changing my mind every 2 seconds).
Firm was right about Onegu. However, Firm's on Onegu is made weaker is Aqua is scum. Therefore Firm is finding it hard to see Aqua as scum.
Aqua has all but admitted (in the last 10 minutes) that Hurricane is not his NK target. Therefore I am out 
gg guys.
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Also, Firm, you should have countered 
On June 30 2013 09:48 hzflank wrote:Sorry for spamming, I'm running a single monitor and watching MLG. This thread is good for inflating my post counter though 
why did I use that phrase?
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On June 30 2013 10:05 hzflank wrote:
If I am reading this right then I am about to be shot by scum, which means that no one dies tonight.
And that is what you should of countered.
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There is no legitimate way for you to pre-claim Vet. I wanted to put it in their minds that you were Vet, so they woul not of taken the night 3 shot at you. Then they would have to kill Stim night 3 if they still planned to make the case on Hurricane on day 4.
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gah, did not expect that 
##Vote:Onegu
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Well, it was a long shot
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Does anyone else think that a shorter day 3 would be better, if the mods allow it?
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Nevermind, I am just being too eager to see Onegu's role. Obviously his role does not make anything certain, but it's more info for town, at least.
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On June 30 2013 11:24 Hurricane Sponge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 11:19 hzflank wrote: Does anyone else think that a shorter day 3 would be better, if the mods allow it? It sets a bad precedent. I know I wouldn't appreciate it if I were scum. They're going to want (and deserve) a fair shot at trying to turn this game around.
I agree that it was a bad idea.
But..turn this game around? We have lost 2 green and 2 blues, we have 1 confirmed red but they get another chance for NK after we lynch him. The scum are winning by a very large margin.
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On June 30 2013 11:59 Onegu wrote: Just a thought you guys are in lylo now anyway so what does killing me acomplish today other than giving another NK out?
We need to know your role. If you are Tracker then Hurricane is 100% confirmed town NN.
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EBWOP
Unless you tracked your team mate on night one, but I will in no way ever consider that when it comes to voting.
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On June 30 2013 14:14 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2013 12:13 hzflank wrote:On June 30 2013 11:59 Onegu wrote: Just a thought you guys are in lylo now anyway so what does killing me acomplish today other than giving another NK out?
We need to know your role. If you are Tracker then Hurricane is 100% confirmed town NN. Theoriticly what does this acomplish? If I am goon or framer it means zero, and if I am tracker he will most likely be NK as a confirmed town. This does nothing doesnt where my vote go give you more info?
You are not a goon.
It was most likely NK as confirmed town previously, but it did not happen. We have to know for sure.
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On June 30 2013 21:03 Spicydinosaur wrote: ##vote onegu
Can someone point out why my stim aqua connection is off? Is it because they voted each other?
Day 1:
Stim votes for Aqua, making it 4-4 (or possible 3 on Xz 4 on Aqua) at a time when it was very possible tat Aqua would be lynched.
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