Yep, I am aware of that.

BTW Hurricane, we can just say it because everyone knows you claim NN. It is no secret. The thing is we cannot confirm it (no Tracker or Watcher).

hzflank

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June 30 2013 00:39 GMT

#1632

On June 30 2013 09:37 Aquanim wrote:

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Alakaslam saw Onegu visit you, didn't he? You're not dead, so Onegu wasn't carrying scum KP. Therefore, Onegu has a scum PR.

Yep. Tracker or Framer.

Unless Hurricane was roleblocked. If Hurricane was roleblocked, then it might be time to claim that, but I need a minute to confirm.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 00:43 GMT

#1634

@Hurricane: We dont even need to know if you were roleblocked. We will know when Onegu flips.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 00:43 GMT

#1635

Although, there is no harm in it either. SO if you want you can claim.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 00:44 GMT

#1636

It really does not matter

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 00:48 GMT

#1638

Sorry for spamming, I'm running a single monitor and watching MLG. This thread is good for inflating my post counter though

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 00:55 GMT

#1642

No point in looking too much into a link between Aqua and Lone until we know one of their alignments. it is not needed.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 00:59 GMT

#1645

Deadline has passed?

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:05 GMT

#1649

Don't worry Onegu's gone day 3, 8-1 vote count.

Oh btw, Hurricane wont die.

If I am reading this right then I am about to be shot by scum, which means that no one dies tonight.

Hurricane is either lynched Day 4, or killed Night 4, and in a few minutes I will tell you why...

(I love me some conspiracy, it seems)

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:05 GMT

#1650

oops, 7-1 vote count*

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:10 GMT

#1655

On June 30 2013 10:07 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
hz, would me claiming Roleblock yes / Roleblock no be of any importance to you?

not at all. Dont claim anything.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:11 GMT

#1656

Conspiracy theory time.

On June 30 2013 09:03 hzflank wrote:

Is it good play to both Track and Frame the same person in that situation?

Why yes, yes I think that it is. It makes for a great set play. If there is an NN then the scum team can potentially convince the town to mislynch their Tracker/Watcher in exchange for the Mafia Framer. Then, when he (Onegu) flips Framer, the scum team will claim that Hurricane must be scum.

It is in fact likely that a Framer and Tracker both targeted Hurricane. If you had to pick a target for this play then Hurricane would have been perfect, as his very early post was about NN policy. It would be better for the scum if they knew exactly who the NN was when making this play. Remind me who it was that made a case on day 1 that the NN should claim?

Once the scum team got the results of their night actions, they knew that Hurricane was was either NN, JK or tracker. Their next play would depends on whether Hurricane was NN or a good role, so they wanted to uncover this. Remind me who it was that was so eager to know if anyone was roleblocked (inc Jailed)?

Onegu claim's but does not name Hurricane. They are still fishing for Hurricane's role. Alakaslam claims Tracker. Hurricane passively claims NN.

I wont go into detail, but it's obvious what their next move is if Hurricane was JK. Not relevant though.

Since Hurricane is NN, the scum try to secure their day 2 mis-lynch, and they succeed. The town should all be thinking that they will night kill Hurricane Night 2, because he is confirmed town. But they will not nightkill Hurricane, they will try to nightkill me.

Town lynches Onegu on day 3. Onegu flips Framer.

The scum make a case against Hurricane based on the fact that Onegu flipped Framer. Afterall, what are the chances that on Night one both the Framer and the tracker targetted Hurricane?

If they get the day 4 mislynch on Hurricane then they win.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:13 GMT

#1658

If that conspiracy is wrong then Hurricane should die tonight. He was the only confirmed non-veteran and the scum are not in a position where they need to risk hitting a Vet when they have confirmed-town Hurricane to kill instead.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:26 GMT

#1663

Stim is at least 75% town.

Go through the pairings. Stim and Aqua cannot both be scum. Stim and Spicy are unlikely. That only leaves Stim and Lone.

Apart from that Stim also voted for Onegu.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:27 GMT

#1664

But Firm dismissed my theory so easily

Firm and I are like polar opposites.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:29 GMT

#1665

Hurricane: If you do not die, why are they risky targeting a Vet over a known NN?

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:30 GMT

#1667

If the Nightkill goes through then it is 4-3 LYLO. They knew that we probably have a Vet or a Vig. They would not risk targeting a Vet without good reason.

Give the scum some credit. They have been schooling us all game.

hzflank

United Kingdom2991 Posts

June 30 2013 01:30 GMT

#1669

On June 30 2013 10:29 FirmTofu wrote:
Remember that currently we have:

Aquanim accusing Spicy
Aquanim accusing LoneMeow
Spicy accusing Stim

This makes a possible scumteam of Onegu, LoneMeow, and Spicy likely.
It also makes a possible scumteam of Onegu, Aqua, and LoneMeow unlikely.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Spicy has never accused LoneMeow or Onegu of anything.

That is not relevant. Ignore who Aqua is accusing. If he were scum then he would also be accusing them.