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On June 23 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
well basically my point about asking yamato is because he doesnt have enough content in his filter about DP to replace a case. Just general impression "NOT INTERESTED IN THE GAME". Which is highly subjective. Also he never asks DP anything. Notice that Yamato only votes for DP after he is under some pressure.
Almost all of mafia is subjective, and I'd say interest in the game is one of the very top ways I try to distinguish town from mafia.
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On June 23 2013 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Is DP interested Marv?
DP was interested in the first half of the game, and in fairness to the guy his activity on Saturday is literally always fairly non-existent. He simply does things on Saturdays and you can verify that in any game he ever plays.
At the very least I think he's a particularly bad lynch for today.
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I'm just gonna make a nice list post to lay out roughly where I am and distract you all. Lots of people have conflicting views to me and want to lynch into people I don't think we should be lynching in to.
People I think are town to varying degrees:
Corazon
Oats
rayn
yamato
People I have reason to think they're both town and mafia:
ShiaoPi
goodkarma
People I'm unsure about but I think they're bad lynches:
Hapahauli
Sylencia
DarthPunk
Coagulation
People that I'd like to kill:
Ange
slOosh
Obvious
Oh and Oats, just because someone has a different interpretation to me doesn't make them mafia, and DP *has* been afk (I'm just willing to easily accept his Saturday thing).
I'm afk for a few hours for working out/eating/domestics etc.
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On June 23 2013 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
address the other stuff about yamato.
Fine he sucks at scumhunting. What about the other stuff.
I've talked about yamato enough, it's all in my filter.
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On June 23 2013 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
how would you be convinced that he is scum?
There's around a 0% chance I will lynch yamato today.
And yes I know I said I was going afk, I'm just changing n shit 
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On June 23 2013 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I kinda think hes scum for thinking yamato is town.
Also random vote on DP for no reason.
But its marv.
I dont know.
Just means I think differently and better to you.
There isn't an answer to your question. "if he played like scum". He's playing like a townie.
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On June 23 2013 03:25 Coagulation wrote:
Marv so far has completely failed to put any pressure at all on me. He seems content with leaving me fucking off calling him scum like herpderp because he knows its not gonna gain traction. Instead hes focused on the bigger players in the game cause he doesnt see me as a threat.. town marv wouldnt be so passive about me IMO.
I'm just catching up before my shower.
Are you serious? I always ignore you day 1 because you're completely worthless. You're just completely uninteresting and there's no point interacting with someone who just says pointless shit for no reason.
This is the first time I've seen you try to make a "sensible" comment but it's bullshit and it stinks horribly. How much did we interact on day 1 in the last omgus game we played? Did I even talk to you once?
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That scumslip thing is the dumbest thing I ever heard.
Actually scumslips DO exist, 2/3 of the scumteam in Dr Who demonstrably scumslipped. However, this is not one of those occasions. I'm on page 42 and I'm starting to get wobbly jellies about this OO thing, so
##unvote
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On June 23 2013 04:25 yamato77 wrote:
For example, it obviously not you or Marv. I doubt that Sloosh, GK, OO, or Coag made the vote. That leaves shiao/ange/adam as all afk lurkers who wouldn't have had the timing to made the vote. Oats, Rayn, and Cora have no reason to hide their suspicion of me.
Who is it, then? DP is the only one that makes any sense. And it's obviously not a town vote.
Terrible reasoning yamato, I've done role-shenannies before as mafia and I made sure I stayed the fuck out of the thread when I did so for precisely this reason.
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Think I ninjad you there a little Hapa
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On June 23 2013 05:28 cDgCorazon wrote:
I have a strong feeling about DP being town for a couple of reasons:
1. His play has been productive and level-headed for most of the game. He is contributing to discussion and I don't believe he is hiding anything. His play seems very genuine to me and he has been very logical and reasonable in everyone he has analyzed. I don't see anything in his filter that looks scummy to me.
2. There have been a couple points where Hapa has been under fire. Instead of joining the wagon or not saying anything, DP has come out multiple (at least 5 times) to say that a Hapa lynch is a really stupid idea due to Hapa's importance to town. It would be so easy for scum DP to jump on the Hapa lynch train or to just sit out of the way and let a Hapa lynch train form. The fact that he went out of his way to defend Hapa means that he wants to keep Hapa alive for as long as possible, which would be super beneficial to town.
DP may be town, but the second point is totally bad. Good scumplayers, of which DP is one, do this sort of thing all the time so players make these sort of defences for them.
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On June 23 2013 05:39 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 05:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 23 2013 04:25 yamato77 wrote:
For example, it obviously not you or Marv. I doubt that Sloosh, GK, OO, or Coag made the vote. That leaves shiao/ange/adam as all afk lurkers who wouldn't have had the timing to made the vote. Oats, Rayn, and Cora have no reason to hide their suspicion of me.
Who is it, then? DP is the only one that makes any sense. And it's obviously not a town vote. Terrible reasoning yamato, I've done role-shenannies before as mafia and I made sure I stayed the fuck out of the thread when I did so for precisely this reason. It just lines up too well, man. I don't think DP expected the votecount to get posted then. He left and placed it at the same time. It's just too perfect.
Yes and it's a conspiracy theory above all and you know how those go.
If you're lynching someone because of vote timings and when people are in the thread when I *know* from my own experiences that mafia carefully plan around these things, then you're doing it wrong.
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On June 23 2013 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Btw, can someone confirm to me that GK doesn't read his role PM's on Day 1? I know he mentioned it in Les Mis Mini, but I haven't seen it anywhere else from him.
Actually he promised me he wouldn't do such shenannies this game. It's in some thread somewhere but I can't remember where.
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Silly me, it's in his filter in this thread
On June 17 2013 09:28 goodkarma wrote:
And out of respect for you as a player, I promise no day one shenannies Marv
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On June 23 2013 06:01 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 06:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 23 2013 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Btw, can someone confirm to me that GK doesn't read his role PM's on Day 1? I know he mentioned it in Les Mis Mini, but I haven't seen it anywhere else from him. Actually he promised me he wouldn't do such shenannies this game. It's in some thread somewhere but I can't remember where. Hm ok. Because of all the people in the thread, I think his play is objectively the scummiest. He's off doing his own thing with Shiao, and doesn't seem interested in pushing his case at all. He kinda just dropped a case, said he was voting Shiao, and fucked off.
I've heard not a peep from you about what you said about rayn, by the way. What gives?
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Now's not the time but after the lynch I want to know what it is that were setting off your weird-bells. He was already looking really townie to me at that point.
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On June 23 2013 06:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Marv, where do you stand in all of the consolidation talks btw? Who do you want to lynch?
I dunno :/ Basically waiting for slOosh / Ange to report their findings. coag's just a crapshoot. Obvious sounded better but now he's disappeared again. I'm just browsing GK's filter since you mentioned him. What's the strongest point(s) against him would you say?
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On June 23 2013 06:35 Ange777 wrote:
I am still only on page 36 and so far I would like to lynch DarthPunk. Hapa, you said, I should concentrate on GK or ShiaoPi but I haven't seen them posting yet.
I think this is the problem dear.
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Obvious, I did have a look into DP about the things you mentioned. Couple of things
1) the oats thing was early enough that i think it's reasonable enough that he didn't pursue it
2) he did pursue/talk about you quite a bit on page 3/4 of your filter
3) I think you have a pretty valid point about the policy lynch thing. You made it abundantly clear it would be a policy lynch and what the policy was, even if you were leaning town on Oats. I'm not exactly sure where I lean on it because I *do* think it's pretty dumb to want to policy lynch you're leaning town on, and I can understand anyone being upset about that, but on the other hand I don't think DP should have been *that* incredulous. hrmdehrm :x
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