EPTDid the conversation last night between me, oats and Hapa change your opinion on any of us?
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Adam4167
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Did the conversation last night between me, oats and Hapa change your opinion on any of us? | ||
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Adam4167
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I need you to keep an open mind today because I've just come across something very important. | ||
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Adam4167
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Continue going about your business. | ||
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Adam4167
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I don't think hes it. | ||
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Adam4167
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On June 27 2013 15:19 cDgCorazon wrote: So Adam, are you going to tell us what you found? Nah, I was jumping at shadows. I miscounted the votes on D1, leading me to a false conclusion. | ||
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Adam4167
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The more i read, the more I just keep coming back to him. If we don't hear about him being replaced soon, then I want him to be the default lynch today. We're coming up on a full cycle without him now and i'm starting to get irked by this. | ||
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Adam4167
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There's WIFOM and then there's just plain stupid. I sincerely doubt a Scum Oats would back himself to close out this game on his own when he could have got a step closer with Hapa barking at everyone that called Oats scum. Nope. nope. nope. I would have been overjoyed to be in this situation 72 hours ago, but no, this isn't right. | ||
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On June 28 2013 02:14 ObviousOne wrote: Adam, this makes sense to me but how do you reconcile that inconsistency from Oats is scummy when Oats is by definition inconsistent? Can you see a case for Oats literally spending this entire game reaction fishing (my term for it, not sure what to actually call it)? I believe it could be possible, however unlikely, for him to adapt his town style to this game if he's the last remaining scum. That means his agenda will always be his own and not of his teams, so being his town self (random, inconsistent, scummy-looking) would be to his benefit here. The problem with this theory is that he's been doing it the whole game. I can't identify a transition from team mentality to solo-Oats mentality in his filter. Yeah. Oats reactionary play style this game pissed me off initially, hence why I said I was happy to see him die (and I was still sour from smurf, if you couldn't tell). I'm not all that familiar with Oats scum play, having only played half a game with him when he was scum. In regards to specific scum tells, I don't know that he has any glaringly obvious ones. I default to Hapa in regards to Oats meta, his meta reads are usually very solid. Also, hes just not... careful enough. His justification for why he panic voted me was 'because its funny', for example. | ||
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On June 28 2013 02:31 goodkarma wrote: Before you go "I don't want this guy at LYLO," maybe you should visualize how the rest of the game might transpire first? Like who are you going to lynch and when? Hapa was discussing coming up with a plan (if I recall correctly anyway... filter-diving too much effort.). Maybe that's what scum feared most? In any case it makes the game much easier if truly scumteam didn't bus day one. That means you lynch Adam, Oats, and me in whatever order you want and you win. I'm still inclined to run with this scenario for the time being though idk maybe it's wrong. Of those the guy who probably would be most likely to not concede in a lost scumgame would be Oats. ##Vote: Oats OK, great. So you were reading the thread this whole time. Who did you jail last night? Why? | ||
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Adam4167
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A single vote, a townie does not make. You guys made your DP vote on D1 and have sat back and done SFA since. I feel like i'm sitting here talking to Oats and myself there rest of the time. | ||
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Adam4167
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I asked for reads on all 3 of us in the apparent 'lynch pool of death' and I got nada. Some waffle about Oats antagonizing Cora on D1. If you're town, do you think the level of activity and effort in this game has been acceptable in the last 72 hours? There's only one answer here. | ||
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If everyone on the apparent confirmed DP wagon is town, then use that 'confirmed' status instead of posting once a day! If everyone on there is town, theyll have nothing to hide about us poking around and asking questions. Instead I am getting "NO YOUR GETTING LYNCHED SOON, STOP QUESTIONING THE RULING ELITE AND DIE QUIETLY" Its bullshit. | ||
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Adam4167
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I HATE losing as town. HATE. This attitude of "Oh we're done here, lets just clock out", is exceptionally weak. I ask you this: You lynch Oats today, Lynch GK tomorrow, they both flip town. You're going to lynch me after that, in spite of everything I have said and done in this thread. That one vote was the only defining action in my play and now i'm destined to my fate regardless of anything I say? Is that correct? | ||
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On June 28 2013 13:29 cDgCorazon wrote: Your only defense is meta? You realize that a good scum player can change his meta to look town? I'm reading Oats scum game in LIX now. Not being offensive here, but a good scum player is not what I would define him as. Hes too helpful, non-confrontational, and he gives off zero reads. That's about the polar opposite to Oats here. Seriously, go take a look at that game, then come back and look at this one. | ||
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He doesn't even call his 'targets' scum. Just implies they were doing nothing. Granted he did that a bit to me here, but he was very happy to call me scum several times. As opposed to this game, hes calling DP and Hapa scum after about... 6 hours game time and has already voted Cora for 'being stupid'. Night and day difference. | ||
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On June 28 2013 13:45 slOosh wrote: The easy way to do it is argue that GK is more likely scum than we thought due to his attitude shift. But I don't know if cora wants to listen to me (or anyone) anymore due to the shiaopi switch last cycle. Then hopefully Cora can see that this is a good chance to correct the mistake of last cycle. | ||
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On June 28 2013 14:41 cDgCorazon wrote: You've done almost zero to look town this game. That's why you are going to die. Town, you have 2 options: 1. Convince Coag to vote GK 2. Follow my lynch preference. It's that simple, have fun. Holding the town hostage and being completely closed off to reason is pretty shitty. | ||
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On June 24 2013 10:10 HiroPro wrote: In regards to the role PMs posted after flips: The non-mafia that have flipped have had their complete role PMs posted. The mafia that have flipped have information removed from their PM that has nothing to do with their individual role. Sloosh, this is why I want more out of everybody, even the so-called confirmed. Something was told to the mafia that the rest of us aren't getting told. If there was some kind of traitor that joined the scum team on D2, then a single vote on DP counts for nothing. We're in a closed setup, anything is possible. | ||
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Adam4167
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I don't know if hes scum, but this is a better choice than Oats. | ||
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On June 29 2013 10:15 cDgCorazon wrote: Idiots. What the fuck is your problem, seriously? You gave the town two options, bow down to your bullshit or convince coag to switch. We succeeded in the latter and now you're throwing a hissy fit over it AFTER WE LYNCHED ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE YOU HAD MARKED AS PROBABLE SCUM. Grow up. | ||
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