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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 18 2013 00:55 GMT
#50
/replacement
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 22 2013 22:28 GMT
#983
Alright i'm here. Its 7am and so cold my teeth are chattering.

Understanding we're short on time here, who should I filter dive QUICKLY.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 22 2013 22:31 GMT
#989
I didn't get the sub-in message until the middle of the night, when I was sleeping.

Hardly fair for me to start playing without a role PM, although i'm sure some of you would have loved that.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 22 2013 22:53 GMT
#1017
##Vote: Goodkarma

Of the two, DP looks more invested and I venture ill have a better chance at figuring him out on later days when we're the only two awake talking in the thread.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 22 2013 22:57 GMT
#1024
On June 23 2013 07:54 slOosh wrote:
Well you know if GK continues to not do anything he will be instantly lynched. There is much more pressure on GK to perform if he survives than if DP survives.


Threatening an AFK with a lynch generally amounts to nothing. I KNOW DP will be here and being on the same timezone, Ill be able to pick his brain thoroughly. I don't know when ill have the chance to do this with GK as his activity can be sparse.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 22 2013 23:08 GMT
#1039
Well.

In light of that, ill actually go read the thread proper.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#1064
On June 23 2013 08:00 Ange777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 07:57 Adam4167 wrote:
On June 23 2013 07:54 slOosh wrote:
Well you know if GK continues to not do anything he will be instantly lynched. There is much more pressure on GK to perform if he survives than if DP survives.


Threatening an AFK with a lynch generally amounts to nothing. I KNOW DP will be here and being on the same timezone, Ill be able to pick his brain thoroughly. I don't know when ill have the chance to do this with GK as his activity can be sparse.


So to you they are both equally scummy and this is the only reason that made you vote goodkarma?


I had all of 10 minutes to read both filters and get a grasp on where both of them were coming from.

Not being able to get a reliable read on either, I went with voting against the one that I knew I would be able to interact less with.


In light of that flip, I chose poorly.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 03:53 GMT
#1163
Rayn, how can you hammer Hapa for not being on the DP lynch when you yourself were also not on that lynch?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 04:00 GMT
#1168
Then why say this:

On June 23 2013 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I asked you why you were dropping off your suspicions on your MOST SCUMREAD, GK. That is fucking relevant as we just know DP flipped scum and you did not vote for him. Obviously you are full of shit.

kthxbye.


What point are you trying to make with the underlined if not that Hapa wasnt on the DP wagon?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 04:02 GMT
#1172
On June 23 2013 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:
This is why I'm the 2nd hardest player to mislynch on TL btw.

(the first being iamperfection)


Kitaman would beg to differ.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 04:29 GMT
#1193
Was just about to suggest that.

Convince me of what you see Oats. I've seen you make coherent cases before, make a case against Hapa so I can get a better read on you both. Just saying "hapa is scum" over and over isn't very convincing or helpful, and you're not kush, despite what DP said.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 04:34 GMT
#1198
Not happy in the slightest, actually.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 04:43 GMT
#1209
Oats, we're about 5,000 kilometers apart, but can you hear that noise?

Its the sound of Adam groaning.


I hope to hell that you are not town, because if you are, your play has slid severely.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 04:56 GMT
#1218
On June 23 2013 13:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 13:46 cDgCorazon wrote:
So when Oats flips scum, will this count as the first scum I've ever caught?


Sure why not. Team effort bro.

Though in seriousness, I'm constantly thinking to myself if scum would actually be this bad at answering questions pertaining to scum-reads.


I'm done with 'too scummy to be scum' after smurf mafia.

He wants to not play the game, he can die.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 05:01 GMT
#1224
No. There's being unintentionally bad, where I will try to figure you out (go see duel mafia and my read on sylencia), and then being intentionally bad, such as Kush in smurf. You don't want to put the effort into playing properly, then i don't want you around with the idea lingering in the back of my head that you could be scum playing us for fools.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 05:05 GMT
#1230
On June 23 2013 14:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kush flipped town in smurf.
I dont get where you are going with this.
So far, in the examples you gave, bad people were town. Where do you get the idea that I would flip scum then?


I'm well aware what he flipped. He made himself intentionally unreadable, as you are doing now. I'm done with unreadable. If you don't want to play the game, don't sign up.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 05:15 GMT
#1233
On June 23 2013 14:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 14:01 Adam4167 wrote:
No. There's being unintentionally bad, where I will try to figure you out (go see duel mafia and my read on sylencia), and then being intentionally bad, such as Kush in smurf. You don't want to put the effort into playing properly, then i don't want you around with the idea lingering in the back of my head that you could be scum playing us for fools.


We're not lynching Oats unless we think he's scum. Period.

Do you think Oats is scum? Also presumably you caught-up with the thread now that you're posting - who are your other scum-reads?


I am reasonably caught up.

Right now I want to see more out of GoodKarma, ShioaPi and Raynpelikoneet. Oats would be on this list as well if he weren't playing like a dick.

I consider everyone on the DP wagon to be out of the question for tomorrow.

Those of us that were on GK yesterday, I actually have some of my better townreads on: Cora, Marv and yourself (in that order).


Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 06:04 GMT
#1246
On June 23 2013 14:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 14:15 Adam4167 wrote:
On June 23 2013 14:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 23 2013 14:01 Adam4167 wrote:
No. There's being unintentionally bad, where I will try to figure you out (go see duel mafia and my read on sylencia), and then being intentionally bad, such as Kush in smurf. You don't want to put the effort into playing properly, then i don't want you around with the idea lingering in the back of my head that you could be scum playing us for fools.


We're not lynching Oats unless we think he's scum. Period.

Do you think Oats is scum? Also presumably you caught-up with the thread now that you're posting - who are your other scum-reads?


I am reasonably caught up.

Right now I want to see more out of GoodKarma, ShioaPi and Raynpelikoneet. Oats would be on this list as well if he weren't playing like a dick.


So presumably you find each person scummy to some degree. Can you elaborate your thoughts on each? I'm most interested in your thoughts on Rayn.


I actually like Rayns interest on D1, he seems to be trying to figure people out and push along his agenda. What I don't get is his push on you, and part of that being that you weren't on the DP vote. He says its not a factor, yet he brings it up twice. Now I understand hes been drinking tonight, so I want him to come along tomorrow and make some more sense. Basically his reads stand at odds with my own and id like a better insight.

GK and ShiaoPi tunneling each other is interesting. ShiaoPi just went AWOL instead of trying to push his scum read and GK did much the same after they had both voted each other. I want to see if they continue pushing each other and how they go about doing that.

Oats has been thoroughly useless, as discussed. I hope that he decides playing like an imbecile is boring soon and actually puts forward a decent case against you so I can get an idea of what he is actually thinking. I am reacting strongly towards oats on this because he had a box seat to Smurf Mafia being a co-host of that game. He clearly saw what kind of an effect a player like Kush can have on the town, yet hes choosing to mimic that here. What i'm starting to think is that he saw a towns reluctance to lynch an objectively scummy looking player and decided to replicate that here to his benefit.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 06:16 GMT
#1248
Yeah, I'd agree with that.

I still want to hear more from him though. He was on me in a flash in Mexican Standoff and saw through my bullshit when most of the playerbase just accepted it outright. If he sees something in Hapa that I've missed, I want to hear it.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 23 2013 06:49 GMT
#1252
On June 23 2013 14:24 goodkarma wrote:
I mean it's possible that literally the entire scumteam was inactive, but I find it highly unlikely. And the scumteam would not be trying to form up two scum bandwagons, so I don't understand how after the lynch today anyone can genuinely think that I'm scum...


GK, what are you trying to say with this? specifically "And the scumteam would not be trying to form up two scum bandwagons". If there were two scum being pushed yesterday, why would we even consider that both (or either) of them were also being pushed by scum?
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