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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 22 2013 16:22 GMT
#681
On June 23 2013 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.


You're becoming an increasingly good lynch.


I didn't want to comment on the case because I didn't want to give a hapa lynch traction. I think it is a bad idea to lynch hapa day one and I want people to vote for obvious. Therefore I dismiss the case on hapa for now and draw focus back to the lynch I want.


Do you think the case is bad or not?
If you think so why don't you de-bunk it? If you don't think so, why are you not taking account a possibility that Hapa is scum? Who is to say both OO and Hapa are not scum?

wtf is this? This is the reason i am probably be willing to kill you always. Like what you did when you claimed miller in last game we played and defended you claim besides doing stuff that actually matters (scumhunting). I don't know if you are just too arrogant or what is it, but seriously wtf? If you are town stop with that mentality and help us finding mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 22 2013 16:23 GMT
#682
On June 23 2013 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'm in rayn

##Unvote
##Vote: DarthPunk


Also Oats/yamato, whatever you two are doing it's not helpful. Here, Oats, I went into yamato's filter myself for you just so you can stop asking him the same thing over and over.

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:24 yamato77 wrote:
On June 21 2013 14:22 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

We're at about ~5 pages of filter, so you should have enough information to carry this game. What are your thoughts on the players who have posted so far?

Coag and DP are the only people I'm actually worried about at this point.


Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early.

He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting.


So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time.

Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried?

It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already.


On June 22 2013 17:31 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 17:21 Hapahauli wrote:
What about DP is cause for concern? I've seen you say that you "worry" about him a lot, but you've said virtually nothing specific about him.

Also,
Perhaps my phrasing has been poor this game, but being clear with how I feel about a particular player's posting when things are not as black and white as I'd like them to be is difficult. I think it's fairly obvious that I'm not particularly confident in any read.


So is this a pressure vote on me or are you reasonably confident I'm mafia?

On June 22 2013 17:13 yamato77 wrote:
My problem with you is that you seem afraid to call me mafia, like you're scared that I'll insta-tunnel you for it and get you lynched. This doesn't feel like the organic line of questioning I usually receive from town Hapa at all.


Question: when have I ever been afraid to call someone mafia when I'm mafia? >>

Do you think DP seems particularly interested in this game? I don't.

You being timid in a game is how you seem as mafia. I don't like that you seem sheepish with your timing of questioning me right after Oats and DP state their suspicion of me.


On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


On June 23 2013 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 00:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.

DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.

Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?


What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.


Your reads are essentially the same as they were over 24 hours ago and you basically refuse to talk about anything else. No, you aren't involved in figuring out the game.



you sheeping yamato marv?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 16:25 GMT
#683
I'm sheeping rayn actually

You don't get to decide who we do and don't lynch today, and whether you've been social or not, whatever you've done since you've got back hasn't been productive.

It shouldn't be beyond the wit of man, even an Australian! to comment on something that's been written.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2013 16:27 GMT
#684
marv is scum

Why the fuck are you lynching DP.
why.
Its so fucking easy to comment on the hapa case.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2013 16:28 GMT
#685
So yamato thinks DP is scum because his interest has waned. Interesting.
No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 16:29 GMT
#686
On June 23 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
So yamato thinks DP is scum because his interest has waned. Interesting.

More like dropped off a cliff.

Note that his reads are the exact same as they were near the start of the game, and he downright refuses to talk about anything else.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2013 16:31 GMT
#687
So why do you think he downright refuses to talk about anything as scum?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 16:33 GMT
#688
On June 23 2013 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So why do you think he downright refuses to talk about anything as scum?


Same question for town to you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 22 2013 16:35 GMT
#689
On June 23 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.


You're becoming an increasingly good lynch.


I didn't want to comment on the case because I didn't want to give a hapa lynch traction. I think it is a bad idea to lynch hapa day one and I want people to vote for obvious. Therefore I dismiss the case on hapa for now and draw focus back to the lynch I want.


Do you think the case is bad or not?
If you think so why don't you de-bunk it? If you don't think so, why are you not taking account a possibility that Hapa is scum? Who is to say both OO and Hapa are not scum?

wtf is this? This is the reason i am probably be willing to kill you always. Like what you did when you claimed miller in last game we played and defended you claim besides doing stuff that actually matters (scumhunting). I don't know if you are just too arrogant or what is it, but seriously wtf? If you are town stop with that mentality and help us finding mafia.



You know what I think about your case? I think it was bad. I think it took you a long time to say not much about why hapa is scum and CERTAINLY nothing convincing enough to make me want to lynch hapa day one.

Like basically you are saying hapa didn't respond to a question and was vague about scum reads. Fine. That is not enough to lynch anyone. If your case had blown me away then I would be far more willing to (IMO) waste time talking about a hapa lynch over an obvious lynch. But it didn't so I wasn't.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 22 2013 16:35 GMT
#690
cause he doesnt want to derail lynch train on OO which you guys successfully did. Well done.
Notice OO is gone.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 22 2013 16:38 GMT
#691
Why the fuck are yamato and DP both saying "i don't want to lynch someone because they made posts with words"?
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 16:38 GMT
#692
No one has forgotten about OO.
Writer@WriterYamato
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 22 2013 16:38 GMT
#693
On June 23 2013 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So why do you think he downright refuses to talk about anything as scum?


Same question for town to you


WIFOM
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#694
On June 23 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
cause he doesnt want to derail lynch train on OO which you guys successfully did. Well done.
Notice OO is gone.


This. People massively underestimate the importance of focus and consolidation day one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#695
On June 23 2013 01:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?


You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.


You're becoming an increasingly good lynch.


I didn't want to comment on the case because I didn't want to give a hapa lynch traction. I think it is a bad idea to lynch hapa day one and I want people to vote for obvious. Therefore I dismiss the case on hapa for now and draw focus back to the lynch I want.


Do you think the case is bad or not?
If you think so why don't you de-bunk it? If you don't think so, why are you not taking account a possibility that Hapa is scum? Who is to say both OO and Hapa are not scum?

wtf is this? This is the reason i am probably be willing to kill you always. Like what you did when you claimed miller in last game we played and defended you claim besides doing stuff that actually matters (scumhunting). I don't know if you are just too arrogant or what is it, but seriously wtf? If you are town stop with that mentality and help us finding mafia.



You know what I think about your case? I think it was bad. I think it took you a long time to say not much about why hapa is scum and CERTAINLY nothing convincing enough to make me want to lynch hapa day one.

Like basically you are saying hapa didn't respond to a question and was vague about scum reads. Fine. That is not enough to lynch anyone. If your case had blown me away then I would be far more willing to (IMO) waste time talking about a hapa lynch over an obvious lynch. But it didn't so I wasn't.

Fair enough. Now why did you not say that in the first place?
And do you or do you not think Hapa is town?
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 16:40 GMT
#696
On June 23 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why the fuck are yamato and DP both saying "i don't want to lynch someone because they made posts with words"?

Sloosh is easy to catch as mafia. He simply doesn't post anything useful at all. His posts have reads, no? I've seen town Sloosh do this exact same disappearing act on day 1 in Nomination. It's not worth discussing further until he posts more.
Writer@WriterYamato
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 22 2013 16:41 GMT
#697
where the fuck is sloosh by the way?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 22 2013 16:41 GMT
#698
On June 23 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
cause he doesnt want to derail lynch train on OO which you guys successfully did. Well done.
Notice OO is gone.


Actually you derailed it by asking yamato the same question 10 times to the point I had to filter him myself for you, and DP derailed it by simply not engaging with rayn on the case (as he's just done) and moving on.

OO has indeed gone and I hope he's still reading. slOosh and Ange are still gone.

##Unvote: DarthPunk

I was pretty much only voting him as significant pressure because he was irritating the shit out of me. One of the wise things that Dandel has said that people who irritate the shit out of you are rarely mafia. And we got an answer.

If there isn't scum between OO/slOosh/Ange I'll be amazed. We need to concentrate on them imo.

Out of yamato/DP/Hapa I feel strongest about yamato being town. I know rayn/cora/oats/whoever disagrees, but that's where I'm at. I agree with yamato that Hapa is doing a job like he's not managed very well before of looking town and interested, my primary counterpoint to this is how he seems to be suspicious of rayn when to me rayn should be one of his strongest townreads. that's worrying to me.

For DP, maybe he's scum, maybe he isn't. His early game seemed townish to me and he's just been stubborn now. For me at least he has to wait because he hasn't done anything massively lynchable today.

I'm back to Obvious.

##Vote: Obvious
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 22 2013 16:42 GMT
#699
On June 23 2013 01:41 DarthPunk wrote:
where the fuck is sloosh by the way?

I hate that you're so obviously not reason the thread.
Writer@WriterYamato
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 22 2013 16:43 GMT
#700
On June 23 2013 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:12 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.


Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.


Hapa is not someone you lynch day one. Just like you. If he is scum it will be obvious later. It's not worth the risk of mislynching town hapa. I said all this before.


Yes, but you're wrong. No-one is unlynchable day 1. The reason it's a particularly bad idea to lynch me in particular day 1 is because my style swings around a lot so it's hard to get an accurate read. Hapa is actually a paragon of consistency.

Why don't you just comment on the case?


I don't agree. Hapa is rarely a good lynch day one.


You're becoming an increasingly good lynch.


I didn't want to comment on the case because I didn't want to give a hapa lynch traction. I think it is a bad idea to lynch hapa day one and I want people to vote for obvious. Therefore I dismiss the case on hapa for now and draw focus back to the lynch I want.


Do you think the case is bad or not?
If you think so why don't you de-bunk it? If you don't think so, why are you not taking account a possibility that Hapa is scum? Who is to say both OO and Hapa are not scum?

wtf is this? This is the reason i am probably be willing to kill you always. Like what you did when you claimed miller in last game we played and defended you claim besides doing stuff that actually matters (scumhunting). I don't know if you are just too arrogant or what is it, but seriously wtf? If you are town stop with that mentality and help us finding mafia.



You know what I think about your case? I think it was bad. I think it took you a long time to say not much about why hapa is scum and CERTAINLY nothing convincing enough to make me want to lynch hapa day one.

Like basically you are saying hapa didn't respond to a question and was vague about scum reads. Fine. That is not enough to lynch anyone. If your case had blown me away then I would be far more willing to (IMO) waste time talking about a hapa lynch over an obvious lynch. But it didn't so I wasn't.

Fair enough. Now why did you not say that in the first place?
And do you or do you not think Hapa is town?

All i said was I didn't want to lynch hapa and I want to lynch obvious. Because to me those were the important bits.
I think hapa is probably town.
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