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My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.
DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.
Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?
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On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye?
You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.
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On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye? You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.
Hapa's been lynched day 1 before and he was mafia. That's a cop out excuse DP.
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On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.
DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.
Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?
I've played 3 (were you in personality 2?) games with you when I was town. The first game (Duel Mafia), I attacked you for a bit and then realized you were town. The second I attacked you and you were scum (Personality), and the third game you tried to OMGUS me and gave up once no one believed you were town (Red Team).
You're pulling out of your reads way too easily, just like in Red Team's Prize. You're not helping out town and you're not acting like town Yamato.
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yamato was town in Personality dear.
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On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye? You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one.
That is fucking bad.
yamato, did you do the re-read on me as you promised to Hapa?
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On June 23 2013 00:47 marvellosity wrote:
yamato was town in Personality dear.
Oh, well I remember that he was one of the townies that wouldn't stop tunneling me.
You'll have to excuse me, I've all but blocked that game out of my head. It's too painful.
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On June 23 2013 00:46 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.
DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.
Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk? I've played 3 (were you in personality 2?) games with you when I was town. The first game (Duel Mafia), I attacked you for a bit and then realized you were town. The second I attacked you and you were scum (Personality), and the third game you tried to OMGUS me and gave up once no one believed you were town (Red Team). You're pulling out of your reads way too easily, just like in Red Team's Prize. You're not helping out town and you're not acting like town Yamato.
I wasn't scum in Personality...
But anyway, there's obviously a change in my behavior, and it's because I've gotten better at the game since Duel Mini. I de-tunnel so much better than I used to, and it's obvious with how I've played this game.
My reads are not "pulled out of thin air". As mafia I don't have reads. Reread RTP and find me giving anywhere near this amount of scum reads and I'll be shocked. I think you're obviously confirmation biased if you think my play this game at all resembles the game where most of my filter was arguing that prplhz was town.
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On June 21 2013 14:48 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:44 Hapahauli wrote:On June 21 2013 14:41 yamato77 wrote:On June 21 2013 14:38 Hapahauli wrote:On June 21 2013 14:36 yamato77 wrote:On June 21 2013 14:33 Hapahauli wrote:On June 21 2013 14:32 yamato77 wrote:On June 21 2013 14:31 DarthPunk wrote:On June 21 2013 14:29 yamato77 wrote:On June 21 2013 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
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Talk to me about DP a bit. It usually takes me a while to have a concrete read on him, so I'm surprised you have worries this early. He just hasn't done anything that would make me swing either way about him. This continued angry-man act is a bit disconcerting. So you are 'worried about me for no reason' and the only thing you mention is something which i have done consistently as both alignments since the beginning of time. Why would you mention me at all if you actually had no reason for the read? And what about coag? What has coag done to make you worried? It's precisely that neither of you have done anything particularly townish at all that worries me. It's obviously early, but I have quite a few soft town reads already. This makes absolutely no sense. DarthPunk is one of the most notoriously hard-to-read players on TL. Why would him not doing "anything particularly townish" be a cause for concern? Especially when he's incredibly good at acting "townish" as scum? It's a process of elimination, obviously. I'm not worried about the other people who have posted. I am still perplexed about DP and Coag's alignment. I don't think there's that much to argue about, really. Both of you seem to be admitting to the fact that nothing he has done is alignment indicative. So what is it exactly that you mean by "worry"? If you think DP is a null read, that's a very odd word choice. Also, does the bolded imply that you have town-reads on every other person who has posted in this game? Because I find that very hard to believe given the sample-size thusfar. I have weak town reads on most of the other players in the game, for varying reasons. At the very least, I can ignore them until later in the game when their alignment should be clearer. Why DP isn't one of those town reads is cause for concern, yes. He's been perfectly readable in the past. You have town-reads on SloOsh, Sylencia, and ObviousOne already? This needs some 'splainin. Sloosh and Sylencia are people to ignore until later in the game. Sloosh is obvious as town and absolutely lurk-fucking-tastic as mafia. No need to concern myself when time will tell with him. Sylencia might be a coinflip either way, to be honest, so I ignore him until he flips or something. OO's townread of Oats is ballsy at that point. I don't expect a scum OO to jump into the game calling someone under fire town. Coag is worth worrying about because I have no idea how he plays, but he's obviously here, reading the thread, just not very active except when mentioned.
My townread on Oats is based on what I feel is a gift I have developed through past games. It used to be when I played with Oats I would wait a day before deciding to call him town or scum, delaying reading his filter or even really paying much attention to him because, well, 'madness'. Then we ended up in a game together on OMGUS and I immediately had a scum read on him (that turned out 100% correct) and so far up to that point he had exhibited none of that swagger or confidence I got out of his posting style and choice of words there. The funny thing is that I was the ONLY person who was able to do that and while I was NOT able to describe it in a way that would let people see my side of things and help me lynch him, I don't get any of the same vibes here that I did there.
On June 21 2013 15:20 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:13 ObviousOne wrote:On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote:
In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read. I'm getting town vibes from Oats. He's not begging to be sheeped yet, which from my recent game on OMGUS was the trigger that made me think about his play and ended up with me getting a scum read on him day 1. He did that in Carnival, too, (later in the game) where he was town, but he ended up flipping cop. What I think this means about him is that when he has more information (be it cop or scum), he is much more confident in his pushes even if they are nonsensical. I'm not getting that confidence vibe from Oats here. What you said is mostly correct, however. He is a good policy lynch if it comes down to one. He mucks up the thread with his random interjections. His tunnels can be beyond paranoid. I don't see a reason to think he's mafia. As far as the other stuff in the thread is concerned, the only thing nobody has touched on yet is that Coag popped in just to vote for Marv and then went radio silent. Very back-seat driver. I can't remember any games I've played with him so I want to take a quick look at his older games for the sake of establishing a baseline of expectations. Coag, what do you think about Oats and my thoughts regarding him? Are you going to hit-and-run style post all game? I just don't get how someone could spend a whole paragraph explaining how someone is town and then in the very next sentence be willing to policy lynch that same person.
That being said, apparently saying I would policy lynch a madman who has a history of shitting up threads and misdirecting town is scummy? Hokay. If you say so. Unless you weren't calling it scummy and asking for a response, in which case where is the question? For your convenience I have already answered it at the start of this paragraph.
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On June 23 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye? You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one. That is fucking bad. yamato, did you do the re-read on me as you promised to Hapa?
Yeah, it's pretty obvious to me that you aren't mafia.
I still don't think Hapa is mafia though. Or if he is, he's gotten better at acting like his town self than normal. His last post where he talked about not wanting to spam a lot and stuff seemed genuine. I know Hapa has wanted to change how he played for a while.
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By "pulling out of your reads", I meant backing down on them way too easily. It's ok to de-tunnel, but not only after one person decides that they don't agree with you.
Fine, I will go take a look at them. I will be gone for three hours so I will get back to you guys after that.
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On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.
DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.
Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk?
What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.
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On June 23 2013 00:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
My reads have been consistent the whole game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, or simply can't read.
DP, your lack of giving a fuck about this game is exactly why I think you could be mafia. You haven't attempted to figure out anything in the game aside from at the very start, which is a poor way to play. It's easy to fake interest and involvement for a short period of time, but obviously your interest in this game has waned significantly over the course of the day, which is a trait I would associate with mafia, no matter how good he supposedly is.
Cora, you think I'm scum every game we play in. Take a step back, realize that I've been attempting to figure this game out with Hapa and Marv for a while, and go take a reread of the game where you don't assume that I'm mafia. I used to tunnel like you every game, but it gets you nowhere. What do you think about OO, Shaiopi, or Darthpunk? What the fuck. If you don't think I have been trying to figure the game out you are either scum or retarded or both.As to my drop off inn activity. It's saturday. I was being social.
Your reads are essentially the same as they were over 24 hours ago and you basically refuse to talk about anything else. No, you aren't involved in figuring out the game.
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On June 23 2013 00:52 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 23 2013 00:42 DarthPunk wrote:On June 23 2013 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DP comment on my case on Hapa kthxbye? You should vote for obvious cause we aren't lynching hapa day one. That is fucking bad. yamato, did you do the re-read on me as you promised to Hapa? Yeah, it's pretty obvious to me that you aren't mafia. I still don't think Hapa is mafia though. Or if he is, he's gotten better at acting like his town self than normal. His last post where he talked about not wanting to spam a lot and stuff seemed genuine. I know Hapa has wanted to change how he played for a while.
What do you think of him buying your explanations so quicky? Also why did you not want to re-read DP but me (as DP was a "worrysome" read of yours) when Hapa laid out his reads?
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On June 21 2013 15:41 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
yamato stays up pretty late normally though.
But yeah.
What do you think of GK and hapa DP? They are both wait and see people like every game. GK has the ability to completely stomp a scum team, but takes a long while to get going and has recently tended to get bogged down in defending himself rather than catching scum. Nothing really alignment indicative either way at this point to be honest. But when GK get's rolling it should be pretty clear if he is town or not. Scum GK just never gets rolling. Hapa is pretty useless as scum and his cases aren't as good as they are as town. Fairly obvious, he hasn't done anything I have really loved yet. But I am confident he will either be really obv town or be fairly obvious scum later. Hapa is leaning town though because he was upset people didn't ask him about his read on you. That sort of shit screams townie to me. At the moment obvious is like totally ignoring me calling him scummy. Which is weird. Like he flamed me hard in our last game. And his first post where he was willing to policy lynch his town read is scummy as shit. Yamato needs to do something that isn't backflipping off his scum reads that were never scum reads or whatever the fuck he was doing. I know yamato can be valuable as town. So if he isn;' I will push for his lynch.
Wow. That's a lot of wait and see.
As far as flaming you, I wasn't even here, give it some time. You'll just have to wait and see. LOL ZING
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Also OO, gimme at least 12 scumreads with reasoning asap. I'm starting to have an urge to lynch you because you are not saying shit.
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On June 21 2013 15:52 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 15:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 21 2013 15:48 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 15:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
180s cause I change my mind.
I didnt explain DP and hapa cause i didnt want to.
Also cause yamato scumclaimed! I really don't believe you would've "changed your mind" your reasonings for me being scum were so weak and stupid that you shouldn't have posted them in the first place. "I didn't want to" isn't a good response at all. I just read it as "I don't have a real reason". I dont have a reason I can articulate at this point. Anyway I dont think they are scum anymore. Wait. So I am only allowed to change my mind when I have good reasons and not bad reasons? Well there needs to be an actual reason for the change of heart. If you don't have anything useful to say, why say all of this stupid shit? You're just shitting up the thread if that is the case.
This guy gets it.
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EBWOP: roffffllllll 2, not 12 :D:D
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On June 23 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also OO, gimme at least 12 scumreads with reasoning asap. I'm starting to have an urge to lynch you because you are not saying shit.
DAYUM SON. EVERYONE SCUM? GG
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OO stop posting random-ass comments from 1.5 days ago, it's astonishingly unhelpful.
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