EPTThe best mayor is one who everyone trusts and not who you individually trust.
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Hapahauli
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The best mayor is one who everyone trusts and not who you individually trust. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Also knowing Shaio's meta, do you really think he's capable of what he's doing as scum? Also, why is he not qualified to be mayor in your eyes? Do you have any other reads/observations so far? Also, I'm fairly shocked you don't want to run for mayor given your general personality/demeanor. Why no mayoral campaign from you? | ||
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On June 10 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote: remember that this is semi-closed setup so we dont even know if theres a medic or anything. Getting voted as mayor is pretty much a death sentence and I think BH sees it the same way I do. Don't want a fucking target on my back to start the game. Setup-speculation wise, I'd imagine the mayor would have some sort of veteran or bodyguard mechanic. Else it would just be really poor game design and de-incentivize any vets from wanting to be elected. | ||
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Hapahauli
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I'm essentially leading the town anyway, and I want to use the fancy mysterious powers I will gain to kill scum. ##Unvote Mayor: ##Vote Mayor: Hapahauli | ||
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Hapahauli
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1) I don't roll power-roles often, but when I do, I eviscerate scum-teams.
2) It should be blatantly obvious to anyone who is familiar with my playstyle that I'm town. I'm active, I give-a-shit about the game, and I'm not being pants-on-head retarded. If I begin to act differently, you can always unvote me. 3) Let's be done with this mayoral voting crap so we can go on to actually scum-hunting. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Since you're both around, who are your top scum-reads at this stage? | ||
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On June 10 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote: Oats/jampi Can you explain your reads a bit? I think I heard a decent amount from you on Oats, but I'm more curious about Jampi. Is there 2 or 3 scum? I'd assume either 3 scum or 2 powerful scum + an SK. If 3 i'd give filler slot to that lurker gravityman, everyone else seems fine DarthPunk also hasn't posted. Also, what do you think about Sylencia? | ||
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Hapahauli
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What is this, a newbie game? | ||
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On June 10 2013 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: why would you speculate 3p for me and not scum BTW? Because your demeanor as scum is generally more chaotic. You seem very tempered, which is odd, but not necessarily scummy. Also, BH plz: On June 10 2013 07:01 Hapahauli wrote: Also @ BH and Vayne Since you're both around, who are your top scum-reads at this stage? | ||
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Either way, the 3rd party comment was stupid on my part regardless of whether it's valid or not. No point in 3rd party hunting right now. So let's talk about your scumreads/suspicions now pl0x. | ||
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Hapahauli
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I have no interest in seeing people run mayoral campaigns over empty political promises. My only desire is to see the best scumhunter in the game elected mayor so he/she may have the most influence over the game as possible. So what are your scum-hunting credentials? Furthermore, what are your reads thusfar? Lastly, what are your reasons for not wanting me to be elected mayor? The baseless and unjustified criticism you directed my way in your intro post doesn't cut it. | ||
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I have no interest in seeing people run mayoral campaigns over empty political promises. My only desire is to see the best scumhunter in the game elected mayor so he/she may have the most influence over the game as possible. To add to this... If that scum-hunter is you, I'll gladly hand over the keys to the city to you. However something like this... Because I simply cannot trust a man who makes an obvious grab for power after pushing and supporting a townread of his so early and for so long. This townread who, himself, has done absolutely nothing to deserve the honor and responsibility that comes with the mayoral title. It appears as though a farce, a show of confidence simply to establish his towniness in the thread so that eventually he may gain the trust of others and rob his townread of the title he so promised. ...is poor analysis at best. It is a baseless discrediting of my campaign. Surely you understand that a grab for power is not alignment indicative. You ignore my activity and the effort I've put into this game so far and randomly call it a farce. If that is the depth of your analysis, why should I trust you as mayor? | ||
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On June 10 2013 10:40 GravityMan wrote: Hello Hapahauli. It is nice to meet you. The problem with electing the best scumhunter in the game as mayor, you see, is the fact that said scumhunter may themselves be scum. So what reasons do you have to doubt my candidacy? Have you played any games with me in previous non-robotic lives? If so, it should be pretty obvious that I'm town. What do you make of my meta? Now as for my 'credentials:' You know very well as a complex robot designed only to cause death and destruction by controlling the flows of gravity previous to this game, I have no previous credentials. Your desire to base the mayoral candidacy entirely on meta reads of people is flawed by design because this early into a game it is very easy to act in accordance with one's previous towny-looking games. It makes more sense, as you yourself stated, to base said candidacy on actions rather than words. I agree that a candidacy should be based on actions rather than words. As such, a candidacy should be based on one's contributions to the town. If someone acts, takes charge of the town, and proves him/her-self as town through behavior, that person should be mayor. However you seem to be basing your own on the very "words" you vilify. My reads - I have a couple of townreads I would prefer not to divulge at the present time as it is not advantageous to our situation at the current time. As far as scumreads go, again there is not a great deal to go on right now as the discussion has been quite uninspired thus far. We still have a full Earth's revolution to go, however, and there is much that can be learned in such a short period of time. For example a complete refusal to provide anything to the discussion is "words words words." Fancy robotic poses and gravity-wells are fun, but they do nothing for the town. They do nothing to make me trust you, nor do they do anything to demonstrate your capacity as a scum-hunter. I don't want you to be elected mayor for the reasons stated in my original post as well as those above. I simply cannot base the candidacy on reads of past games. There has not been enough activity offered by anyone in the thread thus far to feel confident in anyone's scum-hunting ability but my own. This reads to me like Now if I may ask you some questions: 1)Why change your mind from the man ShiaoPi? You said he is a good scumhunter in his own right, did you not? What are you basing this on? Do you feel yourself to be a better player than him? 2)What do you think of this jampidampi thus far? 3)What do you make of the inactivity of the one knows as DarthPunk, a player who is generally seen to be fairly active? 1) I changed my mind because I believe that I'm a better mayoral candidate. I like Shiao, I think he's town, and I think he's a very capable player. However I have a great town track-record of my own, and I firmly believe that both my well-established history of carrying towns in mini-games, as well as my history of handling blue-roles very well makes me the best candidate for the job. 2) I've actually since changed my mind on him. He's my top scum-read right now, but I had planned on withholding this until he re-entered thread. This is the post I had written: + Show Spoiler + 1) He has a lack of natural suspicion. Him immediately trusting my words and supporting the ShaioPi campaign after displaying suspicion of it is not natural in the 7-minute window in which he did it. I had accepted his explanation as "open" before, but 7 minutes is an absurd turn-around. I'd expect him to be much more naturally suspicious in his 2nd non-newbie game ever on this site. I had bought his explanation (of sub-consciously trusting me as town) earlier, however I don't think it's as compelling as I had initially thought. All he's really doing is buddying up to me, which is nothing new for scum to do. 2) On June 09 2013 18:48 jampidampi wrote: A campaign being serious or not is based on the smilies. No smilies = serious campaign. Smilies = joke campaign. What makes a campaign is trying to get others to vote for you. Axle voted himself, because he didn't have better alternatives. But since he isn't asking others to vote him, it's not a campaign. @Hapa Are you trying to help Vayne play better or are you noting something you find somewhat scummy? Your post is not clear to me. The underlined question in this post makes no sense objectively. Jampi mentioned that he subconsciously trusted me as town, and seemingly has some sort of town-read on me. Furthermore, he answered Stutters question (directed towards me) in the first half of his post. If he's treating me as town, this question makes no sense. Because if he trusts me, my answer to this question has absolutely no relevancy towards anything (such as the read he's suggesting on Vayne). Futhermore, jampi just hasn't posted any content thusfar. He has 6-7 posts and absolutely zero meaningful content. Even with Day 1 caveats, jampis filter reads like an attempt to contribute by posting useless things. 3) DarthPunk explicitly mentioned that he was busy if the game started during the weekend. Furthermore, he's active as scum AND town (infact he's one of the most active scum-players on TL), so his lurking is completely non-alignment indicative. | ||
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Hapahauli
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This reads to me like Didn't finish this. Your statement here... I don't want you to be elected mayor for the reasons stated in my original post as well as those above. I simply cannot base the candidacy on reads of past games. There has not been enough activity offered by anyone in the thread thus far to feel confident in anyone's scum-hunting ability but my own. Reads to me like a huge cop-out. Your entire candidacy so far has been based on a) words and b) because you claim you're town and c) you're a japanese robot. | ||
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Hapahauli
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I'm realizing I'm starting to write wall of texts and might not be clear. So just to be clear, I will not under any circumstances support your candidacy until... 1) You tell me a compelling reason why I am not to be trusted in this game, and... 2) Your candidacy ceases to be words and starts to be action (i.e. scumhunting) | ||
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Hapahauli
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I look forward to seeing your scum-hunting efforts. However, I do have one more bone to pick with you: Because I simply cannot trust a man who makes an obvious grab for power after pushing and supporting a townread of his so early and for so long. This townread who, himself, has done absolutely nothing to deserve the honor and responsibility that comes with the mayoral title. It appears as though a farce, a show of confidence simply to establish his towniness in the thread so that eventually he may gain the trust of others and rob his townread of the title he so promised. The problem with electing the best scumhunter in the game as mayor, you see, is the fact that said scumhunter may themselves be scum. You have already made two attempts to insinuate suspicion on me with no justifications. Mayoral campaign or not, throwing unjustified shit at another player is unacceptable and anti-town. What is your read on me? What are your specific reasons to not support my candidacy and/or distrust me? | ||
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On June 10 2013 13:16 Oatsmaster wrote: I wanna vote for hapa, but he keeps saying his meta confirms him as town. Feels really really weird. Hapa, remember ego mafia? Where I was scum and played NOTHING like my previous scum meta? Yeah. That couldve happened this game. No feels right now for you being town. Also the way you started it was like, I WANT POWERS GIVE ME MAYOR. "Im really good with Powers". Uhuh. Who is most likely gonna flip scum hapa? Ok, have you read my filter? At all? I'm pretty sure I'm the townies person in the thread right now in terms of both activity and engagement. You can use meta, or any objective standard of reading me, but I'm still town so vote me for mayor. Also, if you read anything in my filter, I already mentioned that my current top scumread is jampi. However I've heard nothing about your own reads, so do tell me those. | ||
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What are your thoughts on our resident japanese video game character (Gravity Man)? | ||
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