On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.
Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote: Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
Why you lying like this? I said this IS dog, not "I am a human who LIKES dogs."
Misrepresenting posts already.
Clearly you are showing your inherent guilt right now over being called town. Since you are not, you really need to point that out or suffer terrible terrible mental damage.
On June 22 2013 14:56 Kurumi wrote: For a moment I thought I was still drunk after yesterday but this thread actually makes no sense. No trolling for me I guess.
We're running the classic lynch, so the most votes person dies?
LOL. This post *would* be scummy if it showed any actual effort to be safe from lynching. Now, it seems more like a clueless town post. On the other hand, might be 100% clueless Mafia...
Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that.
How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored?
But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN!
On June 22 2013 11:54 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Pants: WaveofShadow
I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though.
Ugh. This is basically Crossfire99's whole contribution so far (not including his earlier one-liner). And it seems like it'll remain that way for the rest of D1. Not sure if such blatant lurking can even be called scummy, but it's at least definitely anti-town..
He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy.
Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy.
On June 22 2013 21:23 Acrofales wrote: In general, I am pretty suspicious of those who have come into the thread and lamented the pitiful state it is in (Kurumi), yet have shown absolutely NO inclination to improve it in any way, shape or form.
Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff.
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.
Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.
I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.
I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.
Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ? ##Lovetap Dandel Ion
Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad.
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.
As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"
Can you stop making shit up please.
Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers.
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?
You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
On June 22 2013 14:56 Kurumi wrote: For a moment I thought I was still drunk after yesterday but this thread actually makes no sense. No trolling for me I guess.
We're running the classic lynch, so the most votes person dies?
LOL. This post *would* be scummy if it showed any actual effort to be safe from lynching. Now, it seems more like a clueless town post. On the other hand, might be 100% clueless Mafia...
Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that.
How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored?
But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN!
On June 22 2013 23:48 Acrofales wrote:
On June 22 2013 23:43 Xatalos wrote:
On June 22 2013 11:54 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Pants: WaveofShadow
I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though.
Ugh. This is basically Crossfire99's whole contribution so far (not including his earlier one-liner). And it seems like it'll remain that way for the rest of D1. Not sure if such blatant lurking can even be called scummy, but it's at least definitely anti-town..
He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy.
Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy.
On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:23 Acrofales wrote: In general, I am pretty suspicious of those who have come into the thread and lamented the pitiful state it is in (Kurumi), yet have shown absolutely NO inclination to improve it in any way, shape or form.
Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff.
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.
he then responds to
On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.
Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.
I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.
I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.
Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ? ##Lovetap Dandel Ion
Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad.
On June 23 2013 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.
As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"
Can you stop making shit up please.
Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers.
would lynch BC.
On June 23 2013 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that?
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?
You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
^horrible shitflinging stahp plz
-BC claims SK here-
Yeah let's just lynch BC.
Or Kurumi.
Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP
On June 22 2013 14:56 Kurumi wrote: For a moment I thought I was still drunk after yesterday but this thread actually makes no sense. No trolling for me I guess.
We're running the classic lynch, so the most votes person dies?
LOL. This post *would* be scummy if it showed any actual effort to be safe from lynching. Now, it seems more like a clueless town post. On the other hand, might be 100% clueless Mafia...
Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that.
How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored?
But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN!
On June 22 2013 23:48 Acrofales wrote:
On June 22 2013 23:43 Xatalos wrote:
On June 22 2013 11:54 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Pants: WaveofShadow
I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though.
Ugh. This is basically Crossfire99's whole contribution so far (not including his earlier one-liner). And it seems like it'll remain that way for the rest of D1. Not sure if such blatant lurking can even be called scummy, but it's at least definitely anti-town..
He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy.
Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy.
On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:23 Acrofales wrote: In general, I am pretty suspicious of those who have come into the thread and lamented the pitiful state it is in (Kurumi), yet have shown absolutely NO inclination to improve it in any way, shape or form.
Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff.
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.
he then responds to
On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.
Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.
I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.
I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.
Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ? ##Lovetap Dandel Ion
Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad.
On June 23 2013 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.
As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"
Can you stop making shit up please.
Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers.
would lynch BC.
On June 23 2013 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that?
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?
You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
^horrible shitflinging stahp plz
-BC claims SK here-
Yeah let's just lynch BC.
Or Kurumi.
Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP
It always baffles me when people ask this. 16 players means 4 scum.
he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1
On June 22 2013 14:56 Kurumi wrote: For a moment I thought I was still drunk after yesterday but this thread actually makes no sense. No trolling for me I guess.
We're running the classic lynch, so the most votes person dies?
LOL. This post *would* be scummy if it showed any actual effort to be safe from lynching. Now, it seems more like a clueless town post. On the other hand, might be 100% clueless Mafia...
Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that.
How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored?
But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN!
On June 22 2013 23:48 Acrofales wrote:
On June 22 2013 23:43 Xatalos wrote:
On June 22 2013 11:54 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Pants: WaveofShadow
I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though.
Ugh. This is basically Crossfire99's whole contribution so far (not including his earlier one-liner). And it seems like it'll remain that way for the rest of D1. Not sure if such blatant lurking can even be called scummy, but it's at least definitely anti-town..
He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy.
Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy.
On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:23 Acrofales wrote: In general, I am pretty suspicious of those who have come into the thread and lamented the pitiful state it is in (Kurumi), yet have shown absolutely NO inclination to improve it in any way, shape or form.
Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff.
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:36 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I'm coming in STRONG guys. Time to make a huge impression on my first game.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler
We aren't allowed to hint at our role right? I don't have any meta advantages like the rest of you guys, so I'll just be going by my gut.
Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.
he then responds to
On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.
Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.
I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.
I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.
Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ? ##Lovetap Dandel Ion
Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad.
On June 23 2013 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.
As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"
Can you stop making shit up please.
Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers.
would lynch BC.
On June 23 2013 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:45 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You didn't even bother answering why you aren't pushing your scum reads. Why aren't you? Making lists with 0 reasoning behind it or solid commitment to your read is useless and is incredibly scummy.
You are my scum read, which I have committed to pushing. Making a day 1 list of who I think is scummy is not scummy. Of course i'm not going to push them, because really they are just lists. If you want to be technical, yes I was not serious when I said 100%. It's day 1, you should assume that I was not 100% sure.
Defending and discrediting me so hard on day one however, is scummy.
Hearing that you died d1 your past few PTP's makes me feel bad. I might consider doing a pity unvote.
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:17 Kurumi wrote: I am known for trollish behaviour but I can't recall last time I made a picture for a Mafia game, that's Palmar or Blazinghand you're speaking of geript.
BC, do you think you might die to D1 lynch?
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that?
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?
You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
^horrible shitflinging stahp plz
-BC claims SK here-
Yeah let's just lynch BC.
Or Kurumi.
Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP
It always baffles me when people ask this. 16 players means 4 scum.
he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1
Hey Dandel. Why would BC troll now when he's essentially basing everything he's done on the fact that Skater is trolling?
Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically.
On June 22 2013 14:56 Kurumi wrote: For a moment I thought I was still drunk after yesterday but this thread actually makes no sense. No trolling for me I guess.
We're running the classic lynch, so the most votes person dies?
LOL. This post *would* be scummy if it showed any actual effort to be safe from lynching. Now, it seems more like a clueless town post. On the other hand, might be 100% clueless Mafia...
Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that.
How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored?
But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN!
On June 22 2013 23:48 Acrofales wrote:
On June 22 2013 23:43 Xatalos wrote:
On June 22 2013 11:54 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Pants: WaveofShadow
I'm going to bed now. I'm gone all day tomorrow and doubt that I will be able to post. I should be around Sunday, though.
Ugh. This is basically Crossfire99's whole contribution so far (not including his earlier one-liner). And it seems like it'll remain that way for the rest of D1. Not sure if such blatant lurking can even be called scummy, but it's at least definitely anti-town..
He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy.
Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy.
On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote:
On June 22 2013 21:23 Acrofales wrote: In general, I am pretty suspicious of those who have come into the thread and lamented the pitiful state it is in (Kurumi), yet have shown absolutely NO inclination to improve it in any way, shape or form.
Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff.
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:40 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:37 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] Oh I'm so impressed.
Now could you respond to Wave's case on you?
Thanks.
His case has some merit, but I could point out some pretty obvious flaws in his arguments.
WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.
he then responds to
On June 22 2013 07:49 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 22 2013 07:42 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] Well his arguments about your mental inability from refraining of posting cat pictures with the overarching connection theory that scum players tend to be cat people have a lot of merit, and his points about your easy acceptance of the confirmed scum flip acro's excuses also resonate deeply with my soul.
Look at austin. He's a dog person. that must mean he's town. You howver are a cat person. JUSTIFY THIS BULLSHIT
Well I guess i'm going to have to reveal.
I was blackmailed into only posting cat pictures. I promise I would never post a cat picture, it sickened me to have to go find those pictures and repost them for you guys.
I think mafia right now are - COBBLER and his teammate who forced me to post cat pictures.
Also uhm...I don't know how to say this without being awkward but....Can I get a ##Lovetap ? ##Lovetap Dandel Ion
Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad.
On June 23 2013 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote: [quote]
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: [quote]
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.
As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"
Can you stop making shit up please.
Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers.
would lynch BC.
On June 23 2013 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:04 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote: [quote]
This actually makes him look more town imo. The stuff you are doing in regards to him is not at all going to get him lynched, so as scum he would be free and without fear to let you call him scum with no reasoning, and to no effect, rather than put fuel on the fire by getting in your face about it.
Sure. You can see it that way. This is Day one, so a lot of my 100% scum reads are going to likely change.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
Then he tries to get me to change my vote to SnB. As you said, my pressure is not going to get him lynched so why would he care if he had one vote on him? I didn't want to be derailed.
On June 23 2013 03:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: [quote]
Don't care if I do. Anyone dumb enough to lynch me day 1 is completely retarded. I get suspected every game day 1 and i am almost always town when this happens. Ptp is prime example of this.
I actually had no meta experience of BC, so my voting did not matter from this. For a guy trying to be apathetic about getting killed day 1, he is trying very hard to keep that from happening. Against my very weak fos.
Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias.
First post, reveals that he has a cool/ good role. Which makes me think he has a poor role and wants to blend.
You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that?
Then he wants to deny me from activating my role. Along with other players. With 0 information on what it would be. A scum would not want a town to activate their role because they are unsure of what it could be.
I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?
You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
^horrible shitflinging stahp plz
-BC claims SK here-
Yeah let's just lynch BC.
Or Kurumi.
Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP
It always baffles me when people ask this. 16 players means 4 scum.
he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1
Hey Dandel. Why would BC troll now when he's essentially basing everything he's done on the fact that Skater is trolling?
Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically.
Then does his recent explanation of 'when it doesn't explicitly say' occur to you as being likely?
Also fuck all these role teases and shit I wish it didn't help scum to know what these roles actually did so I could ask IM SO CURIOUSSSS
So the fact that apparently Skater TRIED to get shot at night means there's some sort of reflect/protection/immunity involved? And the fact that Geript knows about it means he is the guy who wrote it. Given he was included in the lovetapping this probably makes sense.
No not at all.
He's crying that if there's an SK it's not EXACTLY 75%, so even if it's still 70%, clearly it's still totally bad for town amirite?
It's stupid and irrelevant sematics and a terrible excuse to cling to his "opinion"
On June 23 2013 04:46 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Since I have yet to flip, I'm going to assume that was a fake day vig kill.
go for it, no hosts are around to activate it thus we wait. You aren't dead until they post.
Well since I am thinking it's faked to try and get me to reveal more.....I will not be revealing any information. Honestly my reads are not good because it's day 1, killing me because of a poor fos on you is very strange. I would not have been able to get you lynched anyways.
its not your FoS you tard. Its you actively lying/trolling. Dont like it? Don't troll and lie.
I don't care if your reads are good or bad. Don't post em with 0 reasoning. Then don't actively lie and make shit up when under pressure.
LOL. I trolled when everyone was trolling. When people started being serious I stopped trolling. I never lied.
So players should all just hide in corners and never post their reads? That's a good way to prevent town from giving their opinions to eachother.
What? I said dont post without reasonings. If you think x is town or x is mafia, why?
The reasons you have for why someone is or isn't something is how other players can better base their own read on you -_-
If i just generically post a list of who I think is town or mafia. What fucking information does that give you with no reasoning behind it? Dick fucking all.
I don't think you understand how day 1's work
I don't think you understand how this game works.
clearly the game works like this: do nothing tunnel a townie for no reason shoot a townie with the same reasoning you tunneled the townie for
On June 22 2013 18:09 Kurumi wrote: [quote] Take your stance, boy. I've been around here for quite some time. Also, putting my vote on Dandel for creating a terrible, spammy atmosphere and not trying to change that.
How is this mafia motivated? Hell, how is this even mafia favored?
But it's nice to see you are actively combating an active thread full of posting by not posting yourself. PROTOWN!
On June 22 2013 23:48 Acrofales wrote: [quote] He promised contribution on Sunday. It is now Saturday. Also, if Xfire is still as hilariously bad at scum as the last time I played with him, it'll be pretty easy.
Not true last time I played with him he played as shitty as he does as scum but he was town. Still deserves a lynch obv, but it ain't that easy.
On June 23 2013 01:02 Kurumi wrote: [quote] Yadda yadda What could I do couple of hours into the game? Voted the most malicious player, remarked on bad atmosphere and moved on. I am not going to post stuff that makes no sense just to look like I do stuff, I do stuff because I do stuff, not because I want to look like I do stuff.
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
On June 23 2013 04:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: [quote]
WoS has not posted a case yet apparently it has merit (how does a non existent argument have merit) it also apparently has flaws.
he then responds to
[quote]
Showing he is actively trolling with dandel. He is in no way attempting to create an atmosphere you can even play in while also attempting to get people to activate his role with 0 reasoning. Combined with his play I have already mentioned this guy is either the single worst player I have ever seen, or is scum.
Considering you are completely misrepresenting a post of his, I don't think you have any position at all to call people bad.
On June 23 2013 04:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote: [quote]
Perhaps you should read up on my play. Me wanting to deny your use of role is exactly what I would do as town. I have no idea what your alignment is and only know my own. Why on earth would I want someone who could easily be mafia using their power? Roles do not equal alignment. Just because you have a role that potentially requires others to activate doesn't mean you are town.
As for hard to defend? I AM PRESSURING YOU TO GIVE REASONS FOR READS. I have no even attempted to say "NO DONT LYNCH ME NO PLEASEEEEE"
Can you stop making shit up please.
Because there's a 75% chance he's town and only a 25% he's scum? It's simple numbers.
would lynch BC.
On June 23 2013 04:11 WaveofShadow wrote: [quote] Whoa, wow. This post is horrible and reeks of bias. [quote] You have absolutely no way of knowing this whatsoever. My role is pretty damn hilarious. What does it mean that I just said that?
[quote] I also denied you your role, you know, because you could be scum and giving you an advantage is bad?
You are completely neglecting to take into account town perspectives in your post at all, and it looks as though you're just trying as hard as you can to place BC in a scummy light.
^horrible shitflinging stahp plz
-BC claims SK here-
Yeah let's just lynch BC.
Or Kurumi.
Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP
It always baffles me when people ask this. 16 players means 4 scum.
he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1
Hey Dandel. Why would BC troll now when he's essentially basing everything he's done on the fact that Skater is trolling?
Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically.
Then does his recent explanation of 'when it doesn't explicitly say' occur to you as being likely?
Also fuck all these role teases and shit I wish it didn't help scum to know what these roles actually did so I could ask IM SO CURIOUSSSS
So the fact that apparently Skater TRIED to get shot at night means there's some sort of reflect/protection/immunity involved? And the fact that Geript knows about it means he is the guy who wrote it. Given he was included in the lovetapping this probably makes sense.
No not at all.
He's crying that if there's an SK it's not EXACTLY 75%, so even if it's still 70%, clearly it's still totally bad for town amirite?
It's stupid and irrelevant sematics and a terrible excuse to cling to his "opinion"
Semantics? You used clear math as an absolute. Go fuck yourself. If the hosts haven't revealed a number you can easily say "it is likely 75% / 25%"
Or some nonsense but using an absolute with hidden information implies knowledge town don't have.
"hurr durr it's hidden information so I have to be town and you have to be scum because I'm acting clueless as if i never played mafia before"
Actually no you don't even have the balls to call anybody scum, you just attack "anti-town" things. Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich is what scum do. Attacking anti-town instead of scum. huhuhuhuhuhuhuh
On June 23 2013 04:46 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Since I have yet to flip, I'm going to assume that was a fake day vig kill.
go for it, no hosts are around to activate it thus we wait. You aren't dead until they post.
Well since I am thinking it's faked to try and get me to reveal more.....I will not be revealing any information. Honestly my reads are not good because it's day 1, killing me because of a poor fos on you is very strange. I would not have been able to get you lynched anyways.
its not your FoS you tard. Its you actively lying/trolling. Dont like it? Don't troll and lie.
I don't care if your reads are good or bad. Don't post em with 0 reasoning. Then don't actively lie and make shit up when under pressure.
LOL. I trolled when everyone was trolling. When people started being serious I stopped trolling. I never lied.
So players should all just hide in corners and never post their reads? That's a good way to prevent town from giving their opinions to eachother.
What? I said dont post without reasonings. If you think x is town or x is mafia, why?
The reasons you have for why someone is or isn't something is how other players can better base their own read on you -_-
If i just generically post a list of who I think is town or mafia. What fucking information does that give you with no reasoning behind it? Dick fucking all.
I don't think you understand how day 1's work
I don't think you understand how this game works.
clearly the game works like this: do nothing tunnel a townie for no reason shoot a townie with the same reasoning you tunneled the townie for
genius.
For no reason? So you view someone posting shit with 0 reasoning behind it then making up bullshit reasons for said previous shit, then saying "luls jk guys none of it was legit" is no reason? Jesus christ.
I don't see how it makes him scum. How does it make him scum BC?
On June 23 2013 04:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: [quote]
Please answer the bolded part. IE where is this information located. I can't find mafia team # in the OP
It always baffles me when people ask this. 16 players means 4 scum.
he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1
Hey Dandel. Why would BC troll now when he's essentially basing everything he's done on the fact that Skater is trolling?
Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically.
Then does his recent explanation of 'when it doesn't explicitly say' occur to you as being likely?
Also fuck all these role teases and shit I wish it didn't help scum to know what these roles actually did so I could ask IM SO CURIOUSSSS
So the fact that apparently Skater TRIED to get shot at night means there's some sort of reflect/protection/immunity involved? And the fact that Geript knows about it means he is the guy who wrote it. Given he was included in the lovetapping this probably makes sense.
No not at all.
He's crying that if there's an SK it's not EXACTLY 75%, so even if it's still 70%, clearly it's still totally bad for town amirite?
It's stupid and irrelevant sematics and a terrible excuse to cling to his "opinion"
Semantics? You used clear math as an absolute. Go fuck yourself. If the hosts haven't revealed a number you can easily say "it is likely 75% / 25%"
Or some nonsense but using an absolute with hidden information implies knowledge town don't have.
"hurr durr it's hidden information so I have to be town and you have to be scum because I'm acting clueless as if i never played mafia before"
Actually no you don't even have the balls to call anybody scum, you just attack "anti-town" things. Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich is what scum do. Attacking anti-town instead of scum. huhuhuhuhuhuhuh
Also you lied, I never said it was EXACTLY 75/25
you quoted the numbers and said it was simple math. You then called me a troll for asking how you got said numbers as if I must be crazy to not have them. Given how sure of yourself you were its an absolute. If you didn't phrase it the way you did or respond to my question the way you did then I would say you are right it wasn't an absolute. However your behaviour indicates otherwise.
If it was absolute I would have said it was absolute. You're the one blatantly putting words I never said in my mouth. (which is called lying btw.)
On June 23 2013 04:52 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: [quote]
Well since I am thinking it's faked to try and get me to reveal more.....I will not be revealing any information. Honestly my reads are not good because it's day 1, killing me because of a poor fos on you is very strange. I would not have been able to get you lynched anyways.
its not your FoS you tard. Its you actively lying/trolling. Dont like it? Don't troll and lie.
I don't care if your reads are good or bad. Don't post em with 0 reasoning. Then don't actively lie and make shit up when under pressure.
LOL. I trolled when everyone was trolling. When people started being serious I stopped trolling. I never lied.
So players should all just hide in corners and never post their reads? That's a good way to prevent town from giving their opinions to eachother.
What? I said dont post without reasonings. If you think x is town or x is mafia, why?
The reasons you have for why someone is or isn't something is how other players can better base their own read on you -_-
If i just generically post a list of who I think is town or mafia. What fucking information does that give you with no reasoning behind it? Dick fucking all.
I don't think you understand how day 1's work
I don't think you understand how this game works.
clearly the game works like this: do nothing tunnel a townie for no reason shoot a townie with the same reasoning you tunneled the townie for
genius.
For no reason? So you view someone posting shit with 0 reasoning behind it then making up bullshit reasons for said previous shit, then saying "luls jk guys none of it was legit" is no reason? Jesus christ.
I don't see how it makes him scum. How does it make him scum BC?
How does it make him town?
Why do you want someone who is town playing like this? Please, enlighten me as to how what he did should be acceptable town play.
See that's what I'm saying.
You can't even explain why he would be scum. You're shooting him for being "anti-town" which like THE most easy and convenient excuse for scum because you don't need to explain a false scumread, which also means you won't be wrong, so you can pretend to be smart while blatantly shooting townies.
On June 23 2013 04:59 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] he's obviously trying to look like a terrible townie because obviously a townie wouldn't know basic math. RIGHT?!?!??!1
Hey Dandel. Why would BC troll now when he's essentially basing everything he's done on the fact that Skater is trolling?
Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically.
Then does his recent explanation of 'when it doesn't explicitly say' occur to you as being likely?
Also fuck all these role teases and shit I wish it didn't help scum to know what these roles actually did so I could ask IM SO CURIOUSSSS
So the fact that apparently Skater TRIED to get shot at night means there's some sort of reflect/protection/immunity involved? And the fact that Geript knows about it means he is the guy who wrote it. Given he was included in the lovetapping this probably makes sense.
No not at all.
He's crying that if there's an SK it's not EXACTLY 75%, so even if it's still 70%, clearly it's still totally bad for town amirite?
It's stupid and irrelevant sematics and a terrible excuse to cling to his "opinion"
Semantics? You used clear math as an absolute. Go fuck yourself. If the hosts haven't revealed a number you can easily say "it is likely 75% / 25%"
Or some nonsense but using an absolute with hidden information implies knowledge town don't have.
"hurr durr it's hidden information so I have to be town and you have to be scum because I'm acting clueless as if i never played mafia before"
Actually no you don't even have the balls to call anybody scum, you just attack "anti-town" things. Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich is what scum do. Attacking anti-town instead of scum. huhuhuhuhuhuhuh
Also you lied, I never said it was EXACTLY 75/25
you quoted the numbers and said it was simple math. You then called me a troll for asking how you got said numbers as if I must be crazy to not have them. Given how sure of yourself you were its an absolute. If you didn't phrase it the way you did or respond to my question the way you did then I would say you are right it wasn't an absolute. However your behaviour indicates otherwise.
If it was absolute I would have said it was absolute. You're the one blatantly putting words I never said in my mouth. (which is called lying btw.)
On June 23 2013 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:07 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 04:58 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: [quote]
LOL. I trolled when everyone was trolling. When people started being serious I stopped trolling. I never lied.
So players should all just hide in corners and never post their reads? That's a good way to prevent town from giving their opinions to eachother.
What? I said dont post without reasonings. If you think x is town or x is mafia, why?
The reasons you have for why someone is or isn't something is how other players can better base their own read on you -_-
If i just generically post a list of who I think is town or mafia. What fucking information does that give you with no reasoning behind it? Dick fucking all.
I don't think you understand how day 1's work
I don't think you understand how this game works.
clearly the game works like this: do nothing tunnel a townie for no reason shoot a townie with the same reasoning you tunneled the townie for
genius.
For no reason? So you view someone posting shit with 0 reasoning behind it then making up bullshit reasons for said previous shit, then saying "luls jk guys none of it was legit" is no reason? Jesus christ.
I don't see how it makes him scum. How does it make him scum BC?
How does it make him town?
Why do you want someone who is town playing like this? Please, enlighten me as to how what he did should be acceptable town play.
See that's what I'm saying.
You can't even explain why he would be scum. You're shooting him for being "anti-town" which like THE most easy and convenient excuse for scum because you don't need to explain a false scumread, which also means you won't be wrong, so you can pretend to be smart while blatantly shooting townies.
as much as I hate using it as an example go look at LXI. I as town, actively pushed people who were actively anti town. Why? Because I thought they were scum for it. I recognize day 1 skater could easily be a douchebag trolly town. However I am sick of dealing with players like that in games and finally have a gun to at least remove one cancer from the game.
why are you trying to play like in LXI? (need i remind you of the outcome?)
You could be trying to improve instead of repeating the same old mistakes, and you not doing so has a clear motivation as mafia since it's ez town meta to mold yourself into As town, the explanation is basically that you are unwilling to learn from your mistakes. Do you want me to think that of you? Cuz it seems like you do.
On June 23 2013 05:02 Dandel Ion wrote: [quote] Well, because he's scum and not good enough as scum to fake contributions properly. Basically.
Then does his recent explanation of 'when it doesn't explicitly say' occur to you as being likely?
Also fuck all these role teases and shit I wish it didn't help scum to know what these roles actually did so I could ask IM SO CURIOUSSSS
So the fact that apparently Skater TRIED to get shot at night means there's some sort of reflect/protection/immunity involved? And the fact that Geript knows about it means he is the guy who wrote it. Given he was included in the lovetapping this probably makes sense.
No not at all.
He's crying that if there's an SK it's not EXACTLY 75%, so even if it's still 70%, clearly it's still totally bad for town amirite?
It's stupid and irrelevant sematics and a terrible excuse to cling to his "opinion"
Semantics? You used clear math as an absolute. Go fuck yourself. If the hosts haven't revealed a number you can easily say "it is likely 75% / 25%"
Or some nonsense but using an absolute with hidden information implies knowledge town don't have.
"hurr durr it's hidden information so I have to be town and you have to be scum because I'm acting clueless as if i never played mafia before"
Actually no you don't even have the balls to call anybody scum, you just attack "anti-town" things. Whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich is what scum do. Attacking anti-town instead of scum. huhuhuhuhuhuhuh
Also you lied, I never said it was EXACTLY 75/25
you quoted the numbers and said it was simple math. You then called me a troll for asking how you got said numbers as if I must be crazy to not have them. Given how sure of yourself you were its an absolute. If you didn't phrase it the way you did or respond to my question the way you did then I would say you are right it wasn't an absolute. However your behaviour indicates otherwise.
If it was absolute I would have said it was absolute. You're the one blatantly putting words I never said in my mouth. (which is called lying btw.)
On June 23 2013 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On June 23 2013 05:07 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: [quote]
I don't think you understand how day 1's work
I don't think you understand how this game works.
clearly the game works like this: do nothing tunnel a townie for no reason shoot a townie with the same reasoning you tunneled the townie for
genius.
For no reason? So you view someone posting shit with 0 reasoning behind it then making up bullshit reasons for said previous shit, then saying "luls jk guys none of it was legit" is no reason? Jesus christ.
I don't see how it makes him scum. How does it make him scum BC?
How does it make him town?
Why do you want someone who is town playing like this? Please, enlighten me as to how what he did should be acceptable town play.
See that's what I'm saying.
You can't even explain why he would be scum. You're shooting him for being "anti-town" which like THE most easy and convenient excuse for scum because you don't need to explain a false scumread, which also means you won't be wrong, so you can pretend to be smart while blatantly shooting townies.
as much as I hate using it as an example go look at LXI. I as town, actively pushed people who were actively anti town. Why? Because I thought they were scum for it. I recognize day 1 skater could easily be a douchebag trolly town. However I am sick of dealing with players like that in games and finally have a gun to at least remove one cancer from the game.
why are you trying to play like in LXI? (need i remind you of the outcome?)
You could be trying to improve instead of repeating the same old mistakes, and you not doing so has a clear motivation as mafia since it's ez town meta to mold yourself into As town, the explanation is basically that you are unwilling to learn from your mistakes. Do you want me to think that of you? Cuz it seems like you do.
unwilling to learn? I am actively fixing the solution before it can cause serious problems for the town. That shows learning to me. I am not saying LXI is my best game ever as its obviously not. I fucked up there. However I have currently done something I view will stop that potential situation from happening again. It was also a rash decision out of insane annoyance but one I would do with a clear head as well.
Yes, you are still trying to kill town over mafia.
To win as town, you should kill mafia. not town. Y'know.
Cuz, cuz, if you kill all mafia right away, you never get anywhere near lylo. y'know.
On June 23 2013 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Right now I think it's more likely that BC is a trigger happy town that shot judge for policy, than a mafia scum who is trying to get away with an easy shot. Like I mentioned before, a scum day vig that doesn't have to post in the thread to pull off the shot can just shoot a high priority target anonymously and get away with it at no cost. If what BC says is true, he wouldn't even have to worry about another townie knowing his role was responsible for the shot because he created it himself. I'm not sure what he would have to gain claiming responsibility for the shot in the thread as mafia, other than having the opportunity to yell at a bunch of people and shift focus to himself, but that's not really worth it this early in the game.
how do you know he doesn't have to post in the thread?
On June 23 2013 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Right now I think it's more likely that BC is a trigger happy town that shot judge for policy, than a mafia scum who is trying to get away with an easy shot. Like I mentioned before, a scum day vig that doesn't have to post in the thread to pull off the shot can just shoot a high priority target anonymously and get away with it at no cost. If what BC says is true, he wouldn't even have to worry about another townie knowing his role was responsible for the shot because he created it himself. I'm not sure what he would have to gain claiming responsibility for the shot in the thread as mafia, other than having the opportunity to yell at a bunch of people and shift focus to himself, but that's not really worth it this early in the game.
how do you know he doesn't have to post in the thread?
Because he didn't?
you must have missed where he claimed the fake shot which may as well have been a requirement for the fake shot
On June 23 2013 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Right now I think it's more likely that BC is a trigger happy town that shot judge for policy, than a mafia scum who is trying to get away with an easy shot. Like I mentioned before, a scum day vig that doesn't have to post in the thread to pull off the shot can just shoot a high priority target anonymously and get away with it at no cost. If what BC says is true, he wouldn't even have to worry about another townie knowing his role was responsible for the shot because he created it himself. I'm not sure what he would have to gain claiming responsibility for the shot in the thread as mafia, other than having the opportunity to yell at a bunch of people and shift focus to himself, but that's not really worth it this early in the game.
I don't like this post, kita. You worry me. You don't consider the fact at all that he did this knowing that one of his scumteam created the role or something? The real reasoning behind what BC did with the little information we got is very easy to obfuscate and you only consider the towny implications. And as someone just mentioned, how do you know he didn't have to post what he did about jack the ripper in the thread?
BC's most recent post regarding Palmar has placated me somewhat because if anyone is capable of this kind of play I'd believe it to be BC; it's the timing of the shot that just really bothers me. The 'shoot first, ask questions later' is not in anyway indicative of a towny mindset no matter how angry you are. There are many things BC could have done that I've argued would have been more effective, especially if it means wasting a vig shot on a towny that could have been effective later on.
Except that BC is exactly the kind of person who would shoot first and ask questions later. I was all up in Adam's face in Duel mafia and even accused him of being 3P for most of the game because I thought he wasn't the shoot first, ask questions later kinda guy. Turned out he was. As town.
As for him not being afraid of the role creator: well duh. He claims he created the role himself. And that part I absolutely believe.
On June 23 2013 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Right now I think it's more likely that BC is a trigger happy town that shot judge for policy, than a mafia scum who is trying to get away with an easy shot. Like I mentioned before, a scum day vig that doesn't have to post in the thread to pull off the shot can just shoot a high priority target anonymously and get away with it at no cost. If what BC says is true, he wouldn't even have to worry about another townie knowing his role was responsible for the shot because he created it himself. I'm not sure what he would have to gain claiming responsibility for the shot in the thread as mafia, other than having the opportunity to yell at a bunch of people and shift focus to himself, but that's not really worth it this early in the game.
I don't like this post, kita. You worry me. You don't consider the fact at all that he did this knowing that one of his scumteam created the role or something? The real reasoning behind what BC did with the little information we got is very easy to obfuscate and you only consider the towny implications. And as someone just mentioned, how do you know he didn't have to post what he did about jack the ripper in the thread?
BC's most recent post regarding Palmar has placated me somewhat because if anyone is capable of this kind of play I'd believe it to be BC; it's the timing of the shot that just really bothers me. The 'shoot first, ask questions later' is not in anyway indicative of a towny mindset no matter how angry you are. There are many things BC could have done that I've argued would have been more effective, especially if it means wasting a vig shot on a towny that could have been effective later on.
Except that BC is exactly the kind of person who would shoot first and ask questions later. I was all up in Adam's face in Duel mafia and even accused him of being 3P for most of the game because I thought he wasn't the shoot first, ask questions later kinda guy. Turned out he was. As town.
As for him not being afraid of the role creator: well duh. He claims he created the role himself. And that part I absolutely believe.
why
Because of all the arguments you could make against my plan, BC came up with a very oddball one... unless he did actually create his own role.
Are you actually reading the thread? I posted that exact same reasoning about 30 minutes ago...
no why are you dismissing the possiblilty a scumbuddy made his role, also making it possible to claim w/e you want
On June 23 2013 07:29 geript wrote: I'll have to go bad and look again, but there's still no assurance you're town. My point is that berating someone for shooting anti-town town before they flip isn't something that town actually can do as they aren't informed on who's town or not.
On June 23 2013 05:41 Dandel Ion wrote: why are you trying to play like in LXI? (need i remind you of the outcome?)
You could be trying to improve instead of repeating the same old mistakes, and you not doing so has a clear motivation as mafia since it's ez town meta to mold yourself into As town, the explanation is basically that you are unwilling to learn from your mistakes. Do you want me to think that of you? Cuz it seems like you do.
This post comes in wholly assuming that BC and St8ter are town. Yet, for much of this time Dandel has been pushing BC as a lynch target. Those mind sets don't match at all especially since Dandel was berating BC for shooting at anti town town.
So why do you think that Dandel's actions make him look towny Sk8ter?
I can not prove I am town. It can only be stated and looked at retroactively to find other towns after I flip.
True, but everyone can agree that him using his day vig ability was not a good play. Town would not want the vig to go and kill again with such a poor reason.
A Mafia would not mind having a Vigi that randomly shoots town trolls, and would not speak against it.
I am not seeing what makes you think he is asusming BC and myself are town. He was comparing BC to another game and saying if he is town, he is not playing well. Dandel would assume that BC would not continue to play poorly and instead concluded that he is scum. *My interpretation, Dandel may have been thinking something else.
On June 23 2013 07:50 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I am not seeing what makes you think he is asusming BC and myself are town. He was comparing BC to another game and saying if he is town, he is not playing well. Dandel would assume that BC would not continue to play poorly and instead concluded that he is scum. *My interpretation, Dandel may have been thinking something else.
In LXI BC played terribly and gave the game to scum on a silver platter. The assumption is that he's playing badly again and therefor town. But if he's playing badly and shoots you, that impugns that you're town (shooting scum d1 is good play obviously).
On June 23 2013 06:59 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: Berating a vigi who will kill people that are anti town is in hopes that he will not continue day killing for no reason. A very pro town thing. However, since Dandel is in the same position as me i.e. Threatened by an over-emotional vigi. It makes sense that he is going to call him out on making a bad decision.
The thing is as a vigi, you're supposed to kill anti town elements. How is it that you've come out of this whole D1 shot scenario with the fact that Dandel is town instead of trying to get a better read on BC or be able to build a good case on BC being scum?
Why do you want people to think BC is scum without calling him scum yourself?
On June 23 2013 09:16 geript wrote: @Sk8ter. You missed my key question. How is it that pre-shot you have BC as 100% scum (of 130%) but aren't trying to use the shot to help divine BC's alignment? Your post shot conclusion is not a bigger better push on BC but that Dandel is town. Explain.
Look at this guy
It's like he really wants people to read BC as scum (without calling him so himself) and like he really doesn't want people to see how supertown I am (without calling me scum himself)
On June 23 2013 17:46 Zephirdd wrote: Dandel's posting has been so... fucking stupid. Goes from the 75/25% mafia/town ratio(which is stupid) to calling BC a claimed SK to calling him a troll to saying his previous post is not what it actually is(semantics) etc... It's really stupid.
But then, post "zephirdd not putting effort into his reads"(which he is right; I'm not) he makes some half-decent points about geript.
Geript's points are not anti-town though. He is asking legit questions, pushing possible contradictions.
DI feels like he is trying to discredit/shut down possible questions that could corner someone.
My mind keeps flipfloping on Dandelion, and I keep going back(in my own restricted mind) to austin who has been gone for a while.
Dandelion, please do post your thoughts on austinmcc and maybe post his reasoning towards asking the questions he did towards me. Anyone else is free to do the same, but I'm extra interested in DI.
You acting interested in getting an actual reads after I call you out on your half-assed reading is interesting, but I'm not sure how my read on austin would help the situation at all.
The thing I'm saying about gerpit (like 4 times already + Show Spoiler +
I didn't check if it was EXACTLY 4 so sue me if it's not EXACTLY 4 although numbers need to be super EXACT in this game
) is that he's mad about how sk8er happens to get a legit read on me, just because it's not the kind of read he wants him to have. And he's really insistent about it too. WHILE NOT PROVIDING SCUMREADS ON EITHER OF THE PLAYERS HE TAKES OFFENSE WITH SK8ER READING LIKE HE DID. You can't tell people how to read shit. It doesn't work. And him trying to, looks like he 1) wants BC lynched but nothing to do with it himself and 2) wants me lynched but nothing to do with it himself.
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO.
Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play.
Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet.
Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
On June 23 2013 20:41 Kurumi wrote: Dandel, you know it is high time you stop behaving like scum and actually contribute something? Unless you don't care, then continue, I'll happily pull some string to get rid of you.
Coming from you, that's pretty funny.
I have contributed more than anybody in this game.
On June 23 2013 12:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Dandel is really fucking weird after this events. I fully understand why he went ape shit on me. I do and find that perfectly normal. However
On June 23 2013 09:16 geript wrote: @Sk8ter. You missed my key question. How is it that pre-shot you have BC as 100% scum (of 130%) but aren't trying to use the shot to help divine BC's alignment? Your post shot conclusion is not a bigger better push on BC but that Dandel is town. Explain.
Look at this guy
It's like he really wants people to read BC as scum (without calling him so himself) and like he really doesn't want people to see how supertown I am (without calling me scum himself)
It's like he's scum.
This is wtf. Geript asked a question that actually makes a ton of sense. Rather than try and label me as scum, or scumhunt, sk8 comes out with dandel is town. Not only that, Dandel takes massive offense to this. The seeming need to be viewed as "super town" is weird. Day 1 no one should be viewed as super town nor be pissed if someone doesn't see them that way.
Should I want to be viewed as mafia? Explain that, that technique seems to be too advanced for me.
I'm not saying I need to be viewed as supertown. I'm saying I am supertown. My meta is one of the easiest on this site (damn you iamp), and it's glaringly obvious that I'm town. Don't be hatin', it's just true.
On June 23 2013 20:43 Kurumi wrote: Are you being serious or did someone went against the tips of the hosts and gave you a post restriction?
1) townread on BC 2) shitty OMGUS on me 3) irrelevant softpush on austin
that's literally everything you ever did, and out of this only the townread on BC counts as a contribution.
You were the person to OMGUS me on basis that I am not trolling, get real man. I am NOT softpushing austin, I said already that I am suspicious of him and his logic seems SCUM to me, but I believe you to be offender #1 and want to get rid of you. What's the problem about pushing your biggest scumread instead of second or third, huh?
No, I didn't do that. It's like you haven't even read what's my filter and what's other people's post. lol. Nice lies.
That is the definition of softpushing. I'm not mad about it, I just want you to know that you can't disguise it as a contribution when you say "oh he could be scum but atm i want to lynch X so idc ololol".
On June 23 2013 12:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Dandel is really fucking weird after this events. I fully understand why he went ape shit on me. I do and find that perfectly normal. However
On June 23 2013 09:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
On June 23 2013 09:16 geript wrote: @Sk8ter. You missed my key question. How is it that pre-shot you have BC as 100% scum (of 130%) but aren't trying to use the shot to help divine BC's alignment? Your post shot conclusion is not a bigger better push on BC but that Dandel is town. Explain.
Look at this guy
It's like he really wants people to read BC as scum (without calling him so himself) and like he really doesn't want people to see how supertown I am (without calling me scum himself)
It's like he's scum.
This is wtf. Geript asked a question that actually makes a ton of sense. Rather than try and label me as scum, or scumhunt, sk8 comes out with dandel is town. Not only that, Dandel takes massive offense to this. The seeming need to be viewed as "super town" is weird. Day 1 no one should be viewed as super town nor be pissed if someone doesn't see them that way.
Should I want to be viewed as mafia? Explain that, that technique seems to be too advanced for me.
I'm not saying I need to be viewed as supertown. I'm saying I am supertown. My meta is one of the easiest on this site (damn you iamp), and it's glaringly obvious that I'm town. Don't be hatin', it's just true.
btw, reads on day1 are real. I believe.
Interesting, so somehow I see that you are scum but you are playing 1000% town meta?
Oh wow, you really want to be mad and fight, huh. Nothing is wrong with it. In fact, I'm all for you trying to find actual scum instead of tunneling me for posts other people wrote while you can't read and think I did them.
So how about you find the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling. I'm really interested because I can't remember doing that at all. Maybe on the way you'll actually read my filter and realize how wrong you are. Unless, of course, you want to be wrong. In which case, flame on.
On June 23 2013 21:05 Kurumi wrote: I know that geript was more about voicing his opinion on me being scum based on not trolling, don't worry.
There's no MORE.
I never said anything about it. At all. I know that because it's not my opinion and it hasn't been. And you calling me scum for it is complete bullshit and that you can't see that is actually scummy.
On June 23 2013 21:05 Dandel Ion wrote: Yeah and where's the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling?
It wasn't for not trolling it was because I somehow played anti-town by not posting in a thread that was being spammed by the likes of you.
Yeah it was for you being hypocritical and
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
So how is it about trolling again? How is it town motivated again?
On June 23 2013 21:05 Kurumi wrote: I know that geript was more about voicing his opinion on me being scum based on not trolling, don't worry.
There's no MORE.
I never said anything about it. At all. I know that because it's not my opinion and it hasn't been. And you calling me scum for it is complete bullshit and that you can't see that is actually scummy.
Okay, for fourth time I reread your filter and indeed there's no word about me not trolling = scum. Sorry. You were right. Still, OMGUS was there on another basis.
On June 23 2013 21:05 Dandel Ion wrote: Yeah and where's the point where I OMGUS you for not trolling?
It wasn't for not trolling it was because I somehow played anti-town by not posting in a thread that was being spammed by the likes of you.
Yeah it was for you being hypocritical and
Yeah you remarked on the "bad" atmosphere and you didn't even try to change it. Instead do nothing, yay, protown. So either you thought the atmosphere was actually fine, or you were happy with it being bad. Which is it?
So how is it about trolling again? How is it town motivated again?
What is the best course of action to heal a thread spammed by trolls? STAY AWAY AND WAIT FOR THEM TO GO TO BED. Foolproof strategy.
Not posting at all. GENIUS TOWN STRATEGY, 10/10 WIN EVERY GAME
On June 23 2013 21:16 Kurumi wrote: Why did you defend sk8r on basis he voted BC on the very start of the game? Could you explain why you Lovetapped him?
? I didn't defend him for that. I defended him because I think he's town.
I lovetapped him on basic math, I have explained this. + Show Spoiler +
DISCLAIMER: IT WASN'T EXACT MATH OK? THAT'S WHY I SAY BASIC
On June 23 2013 21:16 Kurumi wrote: Why did you defend sk8r on basis he voted BC on the very start of the game? Could you explain why you Lovetapped him?
? I didn't defend him for that. I defended him because I think he's town.
I lovetapped him on basic math, I have explained this. + Show Spoiler +
DISCLAIMER: IT WASN'T EXACT MATH OK? THAT'S WHY I SAY BASIC
Why do you think he is town? What basic math? Those things ARE missing from your filter. You were on sk8r's side from the very start of The Crisis, you fought with both BC and WoS, why? You called BC a bad player, do you really believe that?
gut feeling and behavior stuff. Also I remember calling a post supertown, that one was supertown.
the 75/25 thing, it's far more likely to help town than harm town.
I did think he was playing terrible when I said that.
On June 23 2013 21:24 Kurumi wrote: Oh that 75/25 thing. REALLY?
what about it?
When I read your posts I was like "damn, you really explained that lovetap thing in detail?" Then I scramble to find that post and a mention of it happens when BC asks you why you lovetapped Sk8r. You bring up that he is more likely to be town than scum based on that there are more town than scum. What the heck man.
Okay look at this:
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 24.8% of the time.
Conversely, randomly giving powers to a person is also 24.8% to hit scum. I'd take those chances on their own. Why wouldn't you? Add to that that I didn't find it scummy how he asked for it, I'm going in deep.
On June 23 2013 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote: btw, if the lovetap was a big deal the role creator would have said by now.
he didn't so it's a) not or b) fake
either way no harm done anyways
Well, maybe role creator and sk8r are mafia together? Or maybe third party?
whatever
I'm not threatened by an ability called "lovetap"
We don't know what it does. It could even decide the lynch! Or force a no-lynch... We'd probably have no idea who did it. I am scared of unknown, is that bad?
It's american. Dunno if that's bad.
btdubz, krumumi, you were the one that made my role in themed right?
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now.BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own. I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO. I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.] Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play. Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure. Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet. I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff. Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
Hmm. Nobody disagrees with me? Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now.BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own. I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO. I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.] Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play. Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure. Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet. I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff. Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
Hmm. Nobody disagrees with me? Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)
How am I supposed to respond to that? I am playing, I am aggressive and was not really active. Sue me.
If you were Attention Seeker, then yes. Why are you asking Dandel?
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now.BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own. I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO. I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.] Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play. Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure. Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet. I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff. Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
Hmm. Nobody disagrees with me? Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)
How am I supposed to respond to that? I am playing, I am aggressive and was not really active. Sue me.
If you were Attention Seeker, then yes. Why are you asking Dandel?
Did you read the game after you were deaded?
Oh this is the game I got mad at because people did not lynch kita? Probably not much besides Day 2. What happened?
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now.BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own. I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO. I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.] Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play. Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure. Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet. I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff. Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
Hmm. Nobody disagrees with me? Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)
Should I?
Just wondering. It feels weird to have "everyone" (well, you and Kurumi) completely (or almost in Kurumi's case) agreeing. Maybe I have improved and my arguments aren't as flawed anymore? Well, gotta wait more to judge that..
well i do disagree with details, like the town read on acro. I also don't think i even need to be copchecked, but as i said details...
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now.BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own. I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO. I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.] Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play. Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure. Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet. I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff. Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
Hmm. Nobody disagrees with me? Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)
How am I supposed to respond to that? I am playing, I am aggressive and was not really active. Sue me.
If you were Attention Seeker, then yes. Why are you asking Dandel?
Could you elaborate on that last sentence? Didn't quite understand it.
Hmmm. Dodging again. It feels like you haven't answered a single accusation/question straight on yet (except those semantics with Dandel Ion I guess).
You mean the sentence aimed at Dandel or at you? I am not going to defend myself. I just don't care enough to defend myself. I don't have a super-duper overpowered role so I can die, it'd suck, but what can I do. I'd just sigh and say "I played badly, my fault". There is nothing more to say.
On June 23 2013 19:58 Xatalos wrote: Okay, now I've had time to go through the last pages and reread some filters. Unfortunately I'm typing on our iPad, so it's a pain to write and edit this wall of text. At least I'll be home before deadline...
First things first. Gonzaw is looking purely town to me. The amount of constructive discussion he has added to the thread (focusing on Mafia hunting especially) has been enormous. I'd even go as far to say that if he's Mafia, he's playing against his win-condition and setting himself + his team up for a quick defeat.Weird choice of words, but I'll take it. I agree on town sentiment on Gonzaw. Not as sure about Acrofales, but his strong activity and pretty good focus on scumhunting makes him probably town in my eyes. I like his thinking about claiming role names, but he claimed the easiest ever (main character >_>) and he says he is suspicious of Zephirdd on basis that he told the thread he is drunk. Sounds like an early setup for a bus, but that might be me tinfoiling. He also believes that if there was indeed a roleblocker then sk8r is scum. Basically, there is a lot of assumptions in his posts and I am not really sure how to respond to that besides waiting for stuff to happen concerning his guesses. He is not afraid to fight and that'd paint him a weak green for me now.BC is more of a question mark to me. Apparently his vig-shot was real after all (?). In any case, his hyper-aggressive pushing, strong confidence in his own opinions and lack of care for possibly getting lynched for such behaviour makes him feel pretty townish. At least that's the general feeling I get from him, and it should be enough for now. BC is Town. I felt like he is and then The Crisis came and I believe he acted like he would act. Also I dont want to kill him D1 because that sucked every time we did it.
Then there are a ton of useless (completely or mostly) lurkers. Meapak, Zephirdd, austinmcc, strongandbig and Crossfire99. None of them are lynch-worthy right now IMO, but if this anti-town playstyle continues, I'd like a Vig-shot (or something like that) into this lurkish group. There's probably 1-2 Mafia in there, and even if not, nothing of value has been lost. Especially austinmcc makes me feel suspicious. I remember one previous game where we played together. His playstyle was radically different: I was basically certain of him being town during D1. Now, he has just posted weak filler material and questions from others, nothing really of his own. I said that austin is fishing for tactics for some reason.. I did not raise another point in my post, but I believe he is less active than usually - I liked playing with austin together as town, since he was always a valuable asset.
These following players would make excellent targets for investigation during N1: geript, Kitaman27, sk8r, Dandel Ion. They all give me conflicting reads and basically make it impossible to say their alignment with any confidence. They've all been reasonably active though, so I want to see more of them during D2. Lynching or shooting them now wouldn't be optimal IMO. I dislike you trying to make blues do stuff. Leave them alone. They shall do what they want.] Then there are three players who I'd be ready to lynch today: Kurumi, S0lstice, WaveofShadow. WaveofShadow caught my attention early on with some weak scummy signals (most notably the forced "tryhard" attitude and just generally a cautious/forced approach to posting). His response to my pressure was also pretty weird, with a really apologetic tone and shifting the attention to Acrofales with quite "forced" reasoning. Other players have also brought up good points about some strange or outright scummy parts of his later play. Biggest offense in Wave's play is going from trolling to normal play. I've done it in one of my Mafia games when I felt our game was falling apart. Nobody called me on this and I went back to trolling. I think we won that game, not sure. Gonzaw made a good case on S0lstice and got me very curious about S0lstice's approach to the game. It feels like he's just throwing accusations here and there, somewhat participating in discussion but not really "pushing" anything, more like reacting to what others do. A really scummy approach to playing the game overall. Lynchable? Yes. More lynchable than WaveofShadow? Not sure yet. I think same thing goes with s0lstice: he started troll-ish, relaxed and then started to post serious stuff. Kurumi is almost a lurker, but not quite. What makes me suspicious is especially his highly defensive and passive-aggressive attitude to any suspicion directed towards him. He seems to like side-stepping accusations or attacking his accuser, not discussing the actual accusations or doing anything *positive* for the thread at all. Least scummy of these three IMO, but still on the scummy side.
I'll keep my vote on WaveofShadow for now, but I'll have to read his filter again (especially the later parts). Someone mentioned that he also made towny posts, but I didn't notice that yet, so gotta recheck what all he wrote... Be back later.
Hmm. Nobody disagrees with me? Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)
Should I?
Just wondering. It feels weird to have "everyone" (well, you and Kurumi) completely (or almost in Kurumi's case) agreeing. Maybe I have improved and my arguments aren't as flawed anymore? Well, gotta wait more to judge that..
well i do disagree with details, like the town read on acro. I also don't think i even need to be copchecked, but as i said details...
Why is Acro not townish btw? Do you see him as scummy or just neutral/null? Like I said, I don't see him as purely townish like Gonzaw, but I don't see any good reasons to suspect him either. Maybe a little cautious and passive attitude, but that's about it, and not nearly enough to suspect IMO.
He's posting but he usually does. His posts have no impact tho, imo. I don't see how they make him town.
Anyways, I'll just wait for the patented Acro bus, it's guaranteed to come if he's scum and really easy to tell.
On June 24 2013 02:04 s0Lstice wrote: After that big post I'd think Austin would be a good pivot for you Acro. What are you doing?
I'm waiting for him to reply, because he seems to be around (at least somewhat) and I am not completely convinced he's scum, but well on my way there.
SnB is based on meta.
sk8er is based on him not giving a shit about who he lynches, as long as someone dies.
look at the votecount.
We SHOULD be giving a shit about getting a lynch atm. Who is almost secondary atm.
But you may also keep wasting your vote if you don't give a shit about the lynch.
I know you always play like this, and it is pointless to try and convince you otherwise, especially as I won't even be around for the deadline, so I can't even push a proper counterwagon, but we should be trying to lynch scum, not just randomly lynch SOMEONE.
Especially as I don't even have a clear scumread on the guy who is currently vote leader (which does not really mean anything until he has a majority).
Filtering sk8er again, but by memory, his play boils down to this:
1. Aggressive and trolly start. Unexpected if scum, for being new to the forum. So townie points.
2. Strange reaction to the shot, and didn't actually do anything with it. Not giving out reads, not figuring out what BC's alignment is.
3. Doesn't care where he votes.
Point 1 simply doesn't hold up in the face of 2 and 3. Lets kill him.
So you know you can't herd in a lynch because you're not going to be here, but still feel the need to start an entirely new wagon that's clearly not going anywhere.
On June 24 2013 05:12 s0Lstice wrote: WoS, you voted me on a meta argument based on one game.
mind bottling, you can't be serious right now
It's boggling.
And no, that's not my entire reasoning I just haven't had more than 5 minutes to sit down since yesterday evening. Trust though. Trust. I guess you're not getting lynched today but I will stop at nothing, NOTHING to see you swing. And when you flip red I will be lauded a hero.
On June 24 2013 05:15 Dandel Ion wrote: So how y'all feeling about switching to snb?
Instead of no-lynching, we might as well save us the vig shot.
^that makes sense
posting again because of page flipping
Of course it makes sense because you're under the gun.
Ok so I don't like snb's absence but I'm a lot more certain about zephrid being scrum, his sudden desire to kill snb is pure self preservation. If you're town and you're about to be lynched you don't just go looking around for anyone, you look for scum. As opposed to scum hunting, zephrid is just going for an easy target.
he could self-preserve far easier on sk8er, just saying.
On June 24 2013 05:28 gonzaw wrote: GODDAMIT WHY DID I OVERSLEEP
Snb will get replaced, I don't really see him that much as scum (although I could). He has the same amount of votes as solstice so it's not a "he's better than NL" lynching solstice is also better than NL.
he's being replaced tomorrow, if he doesn't show up then.
On June 24 2013 05:32 s0Lstice wrote: hold the fucking phone
lyching me is the worst thing we could be doing right now. how am I scum?
because WoS says I am based on a one game meta read? because of gonzaw's case, where he comes at me for my read on xatalos, but then later admits he isn't sure on Xatalos himself? the case where no attention is payed to possible town motivation?
I've only ever played town, and one thing I generally do is admit when (as town) I've done something scummy. I don't think I've done anything scummy this game. From what I can tell, the only reason I'm under attack is I haven't made public every single time I've changed my mind this game.
unfortunately this is wrong, the worst thing we could be doing is no-lynch.
On June 24 2013 05:40 gonzaw wrote: Okay, so we have time (well 20 minutes)
So what are you guy's analysis of this situation? The Zeph vs Sk8 counter-wagons, sol getting votes and then me rallying people up to lynch him, SNB being brought as a counter-wagon and hastily gaining votes, etc?
this didn't really happen.
he got like ~3 votes or so which is really fucking little, so I am actually comfortably sure he's scum since otherwise there could've been a real wagon.
the other wagons are prolly town i'm just the least sure about sol.
On June 24 2013 05:40 gonzaw wrote: Okay, so we have time (well 20 minutes)
So what are you guy's analysis of this situation? The Zeph vs Sk8 counter-wagons, sol getting votes and then me rallying people up to lynch him, SNB being brought as a counter-wagon and hastily gaining votes, etc?
this didn't really happen.
he got like ~3 votes or so which is really fucking little, so I am actually comfortably sure he's scum since otherwise there could've been a real wagon.
the other wagons are prolly town i'm just the least sure about sol.
Well, I don't know how you are analyzing it, but for me some guy just randomly said "let's lynch snb" and you and solstice and sk8 instantly jumped on it Then kita was the first one to say he wouldn't vote him Then I started the counter-counter wagon on solstice and tried to get anybody not to vote snb.
I'd like to think if I hadn't start shouting at people snb would get more votes fast as well (considering nobody thinks he's town, and the "avoid nl" mentality, etc).
Not sure if that's alignment indicative of snb at all, i.e "resistance to snb lynch", etc
On June 24 2013 07:52 gonzaw wrote: Hmm, yes. But we have time (unless there's an "anytime-night vig" going around), maybe someone will even claim the shot (some people were absent at lynch time, like BC, austin, and others...well not BC/austin since they made their own roles but whatever) so maybe we could wait until they do
On June 24 2013 05:51 gonzaw wrote: So that's why Acro didn't want him lynched then?
Hmm, let's see what Acro said, I think he said "I doubt The Doctor is scum". Did Acro post stuff specifically about solstice?
I had absolutely no idea that s0lstice was the doctor. But... yeah, I would have campained harder against him being lynched with that info. The role is not too powerful for town, but would be ridiculous in scum hands.
So if you knew he had the role that was meh for town but super good for scum you would have tried to get him not lynched just based on that?
On June 24 2013 09:18 Acrofales wrote: Done catching up on the thread:
MZ comes out looking pretty terrible. His post after the vote feels like fake frustration. I also get the feeling he was around and capable of hammering, but just chose not to. Scum profits most from a no-lynch at this point (and moreso still if austin is scum)
Kurumi could also have hammered and didn't. This would make sense if he had proclaimed a strong town read on austin, but he hadn't. In fact, he seems to be in agreement with Xata that austin is not acting like his usual townie self. Shot up about a billion years in the scumomenter. I now want him dead.
No clue about geript. I'm inclined to go with the too dumb to be scum defense, but it's pretty dodgy.
On June 24 2013 12:33 WaveofShadow wrote: I feel like I should do something but what. WHAT
play the game?
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-
Is that the extent of your catching up? Just keep tunneling sk8er for the hell of it? Throw in a random townread for no reason on top! You know you are allowed to have opinions. On people. And it would be super nice if you shared those with us so we can all hug and cuddle.
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-
On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.
On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote: Why'd everybody go quiet?
Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems:
On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you. NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS
JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME.
If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there.
To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum.
Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work.
I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good.
Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die.
HUH?
If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw.
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-
On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.
LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.
If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!! More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town).
On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something.
Hey Kurumi. Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles. Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so?
Also I know who wrote my role. :D
That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again?
We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART!
Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them.
Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case.
This is the official TARDIS counter campaign. Instead of giving it to kita who wants to have it, and can probably do stuff with it, you should give the phone cell thing to me.
Why you ask? Oh it's easy. I can't do anything with it. So it can't possibly go wrong. Also kita is just using it to wifom him not getting shot due to the protection he may or may not get from a random person. Furthermore, it's apparantly a phone cell, and those look fucking sweet. It's also boring if there's just one guy being all annoying about it, counterwagons are totally import. Additionally, I am the most capable persone here to put the TARD back into TARDIS. 'nuff said gg no re.
he made some tryhard post pretty early which I (and sb else) +1'd and then he was like surprised people +1'd it and asked why which isn't what scum would do cuz they'd be all "sweet" and let it be.
On June 24 2013 14:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Why are people suspicious of Austin? He is actively saying who he is targetting with his role in thread. Mafia has no reason to do this whatsoever. -_-
On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games.
LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null.
Different line of thinking completely. -_-
what role someone has does not equal alignment.
It is also not in a scums best interests to publically claim they are performing a role on a player. Why? Because it opens them up to watchers, trackers, etc....
Being insanely free with information and publically announcing you are doing something is a good alignment indicator.
if they actually use those actions, they don't give a shit about watchers etc. Soooo...
On June 25 2013 02:54 Dandel Ion wrote: So explain your townread on geript.
Because he has not done anything I see as anything other than town? The worst bit he has done is his vote while he said he was "gone"
However who cares? He voted for someone who was virtually more likely to flip mafia (in my eyes) than a last minute rushed wagon.
hes pressured people for reasons that I would, etc..
In short he has done nothing major to make me see him in any light other than town. Could I be wrong? yes, however unless someone knows geripts playstyle 100% they will have to explain how hes magically scum when hes done far more this game to help than he has whenever ive seen him as scum.
He essentially voted for the no-lynch. Don't sugarcoat that part.
On June 25 2013 02:54 Dandel Ion wrote: So explain your townread on geript.
Because he has not done anything I see as anything other than town? The worst bit he has done is his vote while he said he was "gone"
However who cares? He voted for someone who was virtually more likely to flip mafia (in my eyes) than a last minute rushed wagon.
hes pressured people for reasons that I would, etc..
In short he has done nothing major to make me see him in any light other than town. Could I be wrong? yes, however unless someone knows geripts playstyle 100% they will have to explain how hes magically scum when hes done far more this game to help than he has whenever ive seen him as scum.
He essentially voted for the no-lynch. Don't sugarcoat that part.
he's also consistently on terrible wagons for terrible reasons
On June 25 2013 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Gonzaw is on the right track, I wonder how many scum have jumped on the 'wave is a good lynch' wagon thus far? Ill tell you a secret though, I don't think I've ever been this inactive in any game I've played. The time with BC/sk8r is how I play as both scum and town, but of course you're welcome to make what you will of my meta.
Ill tell you another secret. I'm not a good lynch.
How about you show us why instead of just saying that.
On June 25 2013 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Gonzaw is on the right track, I wonder how many scum have jumped on the 'wave is a good lynch' wagon thus far? Ill tell you a secret though, I don't think I've ever been this inactive in any game I've played. The time with BC/sk8r is how I play as both scum and town, but of course you're welcome to make what you will of my meta.
Ill tell you another secret. I'm not a good lynch.
How about you show us why instead of just saying that.
On June 25 2013 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Meapak is mafia
Wait a minute. Are you Vig + Detective??
yes =)
That sounds really overpowered. Hmm. Well, we have to lynch A) you or B) Meapak now. I liked Meapak's case on WOS but he's been lurking otherwise. Brb rereading filters.
On June 25 2013 06:56 WaveofShadow wrote: What I do find really funny is the similarities between this role and the one I wrote. When Gonzaw comes back he can have a look at this hint too.
Oh btw no one answered my earlier question. Does the rest of town think it's ok if I reveal the 3rd letter of the role I wrote for to Gonzaw to see if he can confirm?
well if somebody really wanted to, he could maybe narrow down characters based on that? I know I'd be too lazy for it, even if I knew shit about the flavor so dunno.
how about this: Say how many words his name consists of? possibly too broad to confirm anything. but it's something that doesn't necessarly have universal convention so it's safer.
On June 25 2013 07:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also, sorry for the item Gonzaw. It is designed in a way that has a higher chance of killing mafia. I am well aware it can backfire and hurt town instead though =(
You mean, it has a higher chance of killing a townie because EVERYBODY HAS NIGHT ACTIONS (except me obviously)?
Yes, yes you are correct
Eh you know the gimick built into it via reading the PM. It arguably has higher shots of hitting mafia. Yes it can still hit town tho =\
so far we got 1) you investigating 2) zeph shooting 3) the guy that gave the gun in the first place and 4) mafia NK
that's 2-3 town actions and 1-2 mafia actions already.
Add a couple town actions that are gonna be there and I don't see how it's more likely to hit mafia.
On June 25 2013 07:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You have been asked to participate in a straw poll today. Please select one of the following candidates before the end of the day phase:
Acrofales BloodyC0bbler Meapak_Ziphh kitaman27
Thank you for your participation!
Was the other action I know i was selected for.
I think it paired with the power someone else quoted earlier in thread.
Oh yeah I got that named as a "focus group" and for roles instead of people.
On June 25 2013 07:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You have been asked to participate in a straw poll today. Please select one of the following candidates before the end of the day phase:
Acrofales BloodyC0bbler Meapak_Ziphh kitaman27
Thank you for your participation!
Was the other action I know i was selected for.
I think it paired with the power someone else quoted earlier in thread.
Oh yeah I got that named as a "focus group" and for roles instead of people.
On June 25 2013 07:38 gonzaw wrote: So, let's talk about the elephant in the room:
Does MZ being red heavily implicate austin as scum? You know, considering MZ DISAPPEARED when the austin wagon happened and came shortly after the lynch to complain about it
As for my thoughts....yeah I haven't read the thread yet, but so far austin made some weird as shit posts that I couldn't understand at all, and is un-austin-like (at least his town self) He seems more like jester than scum at some points. But well whatdoiknow?
imo yes but well whatdoiknow
There was a distinct lack of hammering-austin on M_Z's part.
On June 25 2013 07:38 gonzaw wrote: So, let's talk about the elephant in the room:
Does MZ being red heavily implicate austin as scum? You know, considering MZ DISAPPEARED when the austin wagon happened and came shortly after the lynch to complain about it
As for my thoughts....yeah I haven't read the thread yet, but so far austin made some weird as shit posts that I couldn't understand at all, and is un-austin-like (at least his town self) He seems more like jester than scum at some points. But well whatdoiknow?
Or SnB. He was against killing snb as well.
He pushed suspicion onto myself, WoS, and solstice and zeph.
Is he the type to bus?
I'm inclined to say no based on what I see when I look into his soul but I don't know his soul so well.
On June 25 2013 08:55 Dandel Ion wrote: Also the last of these cwazy erryone-gets-a-role games mafia KP was fixed at 1 and it was even bigger. There was a lot more dying going on though.
If you're referring to Bastard Mafia, our kp started at 1, but jumped to 2 after a slight modification to the mafia database :p
On June 25 2013 12:48 geript wrote: I don't know if there's one specific thing that I can point to with Dandel. Much of it is from rereading Bugs/Kita from TheGame in how disruptive and proactive you can be all the time. For example, he was calling me scum for how I was responding to Sk8ter over nonsense stuff + Show Spoiler +
On June 23 2013 09:16 geript wrote: @Sk8ter. You missed my key question. How is it that pre-shot you have BC as 100% scum (of 130%) but aren't trying to use the shot to help divine BC's alignment? Your post shot conclusion is not a bigger better push on BC but that Dandel is town. Explain.
Look at this guy
It's like he really wants people to read BC as scum (without calling him so himself) and like he really doesn't want people to see how supertown I am (without calling me scum himself)
It's like he's scum.
so I ignored him because it wasn't going to be productive whereas if he wanted to push me I felt like Acro's points earlier were far more damning. Plus hard defending people for almost no reason doesn't make any sense to me; it reminds me of scum BH. It's gut feel not that that does me any good.
Oh boy, meta from completely different people. (people that don't suck dick at playing scum that is) That's sure to go well, son!
In other news, I'm guaranteed town. You don't even have to read my filter per se, just look at the page numbers. I never post much as scum. Is self-meta annoying? Yup. But it's still true. So deal w/ it.
Seriously, y'all could sparing yourselves loadsa trouble if you just check my meta for a couple minutes. I'm pretty easy.
On June 24 2013 07:44 kitaman27 wrote: This is important. Please read.
Whoever owns the TARDIS, please pass it to me tonight. I just need you to trust me on this one, but there will be evidence of its usage in the day post tomorrow and how it will clearly benefit town. Additionally, the role I created can ensure that I will be protected from night hits/busdrivers/roleblocks. I'm requesting protection from Strax tonight so I can pull of my ability with the TARDIS tonight. If I end up dead tomorrow, Strax is almost certainly scum. If there is a watcher role out there, it might be worth being on me as well, since it can essentially confirm me, Strax, and the Tardis owner as town if things go as planned.
On June 24 2013 07:44 kitaman27 wrote: This is important. Please read.
Whoever owns the TARDIS, please pass it to me tonight. I just need you to trust me on this one, but there will be evidence of its usage in the day post tomorrow and how it will clearly benefit town. Additionally, the role I created can ensure that I will be protected from night hits/busdrivers/roleblocks. I'm requesting protection from Strax tonight so I can pull of my ability with the TARDIS tonight. If I end up dead tomorrow, Strax is almost certainly scum. If there is a watcher role out there, it might be worth being on me as well, since it can essentially confirm me, Strax, and the Tardis owner as town if things go as planned.
Also, if the mafia team thinks they want to play any tricks with a scum Strax, I'm quite certain that I'm aware of his identity so I'll be revealing his name before the night post in case he decides not to give me safety tonight. I'll comment on yesterday's lynch in a bit.
the night and what followed cleared a lot of shit in the null area for me personally, so I just feel like simply carpetbombing into the mafia scums, and then into the nulls after that.
On June 24 2013 05:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So we're no lynching because people are stubborn.
Great
^^ Great performance ^^
Guys, Guys. Maybe you all just misunderstand me. When I said "Great performance", I really meant "lol Meapak so obviously scum". Gimme confirmed town status. 100% proof here. Stop grouping me with creeps like Crossfire, geript, and Kurumi. It makes my skin crawl.
So how about this victory we're supposedly having right now.
On June 25 2013 22:15 Dandel Ion wrote: That's fine, I'll unvote you when your amazing things that confirm you town and win the game for town come true.
I said I'd consider letting you win! No need to be a jerk
Beyond Wave -> town, Zeph -> town and austin -> mafia scum I don't think there's too much to take away from MZ's filter. His other interactions are too small and weak.
On June 25 2013 22:23 Dandel Ion wrote: Krummi made BC inventor Crossfire didn't Crossfire didn't do anything in fact.
But I'll make the remaining scumteam kita, austin and snb now.
What about Crossfire99 stopping the sk8r bandwagon in its tracks? That felt like a townish thing to do, unless sk8r is scum of course. I agree that he hasn't done much else though..... If anything.
Inventor.. You mean that weird picking power? Well, I guess... Hmm.
That's why I'm not yet about to smite him with my divine wrath.
Maybe I have wave's, it does look a bit better for mafia than for town now i think about it. But probably not because my role doesn't harm anyone. It's really loving and peaceful.
On June 25 2013 23:21 Dandel Ion wrote: Maybe I have wave's, it does look a bit better for mafia than for town now i think about it. But probably not because my role doesn't harm anyone. It's really loving and peaceful.
Maybe you DO have mine. Gogo give me some words/letters
On June 26 2013 00:05 Dandel Ion wrote: so how many ppl got the role picks and can you choose who does it
2 peopel choose roles, 2 people choose names.
The role list is same every day, I choose 4 names each day.
I assign one chosen role to one chosen player during the night, they have that power for that night. I can only assign bus passenger as a role if BOTH role-choosers choose that, and then I bus the two chosen players (or one chosen player and a player of my choosing if both name-choosers choose the same name).
I know you didn't choose vet. But I made this role because I liked the idea of having a power that you weren't entirely in control of. I get to choose the name list and who to send to. Those people get to choose the boundaries of my night action. I get to choose a particular night action within the set they give me. Didn't realize how...powerless you feel when you have so little control over your ability, and I went with vet over your chosen role because it's less fun to let someone else pick what you can do AND let someone else choose the end effect of your role at night.
I need to know who picked Vet. So I can slap him.
Actually, since it's not here anymore, you might as well claim who got it...
On June 26 2013 05:12 gonzaw wrote: So, how about I use that gun now? Like, I'll wait before EVERYBODY posts first (including Xfire and sk8, MOST IMPORTANTLY those guys)
It WILL have to shoot someone, and because of what I said earlier it has to be this D2, so why not do it sooner than later? It doesn't make a difference at all and we get more time to discuss stuff that happened with it.
If any of you had an action on D1/N2 I would start talking and posting now because this may be your last chance, so I'm giving you some time (couple of hours most likely)
I don't.
Unless austin's thing counts as me doing an action, but whatever yolo (maybe)
something to keep in mind: Acro wasn't super townie (at least not to me lel) and had a meh role, so he was probably shot for his reads, which were austin, snb and MZ. Just puttin that one out there.
On June 26 2013 06:14 gonzaw wrote: kita, I don't want to repeat myself, PTP role and character name please
You do know you have a chance you die today, right? (maybe a high chance considering lynching confirmed "not town" is the easiest way for any townie to go through the game, and thus confirmed "not town"s are always lynched, ALWAYS (if someone claimed "anti-town" and wasn't lynch at some TL game in the past please refresh my memory)).
Or what? You think town will "wisen up" and instantly listen to you or something?
Give us all the info and shit, don't hide it, it will only make it look like you are scum fake-claiming and you don't want to give town any more info
Survivor isn't necessarily "anti-town" but yeah, it's definitely "not town". Kitaman27 lynch is okay but austinmcc has a higher chance of flipping scum, not just neutral, so I'd prefer that.
I sent in kitaman, which hopefully lynches him now. The PM was very sparse on detail, but by how you worded it it's a vote for lynch, not for survival. Well. You should hope it is.
On June 26 2013 06:35 Crossfire99 wrote: I just chose kita.
well then he should be dead now if the thing is simple majority
Unless I've managed to fuck up the reading of my own role, but I imagine the "loser of the vote" would be whoever has more votes (like a lynch). IDK it's confusing and I probably should've asked first. At worst I'm confirmed a double dumbass?
well at least if you die of it, you know it's your own damn fault.
On June 27 2013 08:41 Dandel Ion wrote: My real role is Captain Jack Harkness. Once in the game I'll be resurrected 6 hours after dying.
And I can make up a disguise role to surprise bitches. Didn't know it'd flip another name, it didn't say that.
Yeah they changed a couple things about it that I don't think I made completely clear. I also think this had the potential to be super hella OP in scum hands the way I made it but it all worked out 'cause now we caught kita and we get you back.
I think the way I originally wrote it you could choose which alignment you'd rather show up as when you 'die?' I certainly didn't make the fake role up so that's why I was initially confused.
They changed it to me being able to change my role instead.
Which basically isn't all that OP as scum cuz then town can just shoot me right after lynching or vice versa.
On June 27 2013 08:46 gonzaw wrote: Please kill me DI
All 4 of kita+austin+Xfire+Xata should die, I don't care which order, hopefully all at the same time. Or rather, I want them to die. If we kill all those 4 and game still goes on then I give up then, I don't and won't have energy left for anything else.
Also tomorrow I work the whole shift, so I just have these couple of hours (3-4 hours) to post, because I can only come after N2 ends later :/
Xfire, please choose the KP and shoot one of the above (kita/austin/Xata, preferably kita/austin, Xata feels more like a "lynch" dude, so we can get reactions and see how he defends himself, etc). Someone with a vig shot, shoot Xfire. If he uses his KP then he can't use the Tazer (to kill his attacker), thus both Xfire and one of kita/austin will die. ...that will make me feel better Although I kind of wanted my role to keep living...but he'll get some powerful shit later on so maybe it's better for him to.....for him to.......die. Godhammit I can't even say that without tearing up ;_;
On June 27 2013 08:41 Dandel Ion wrote: My real role is Captain Jack Harkness. Once in the game I'll be resurrected 6 hours after dying.
And I can make up a disguise role to surprise bitches. Didn't know it'd flip another name, it didn't say that.
Yeah they changed a couple things about it that I don't think I made completely clear. I also think this had the potential to be super hella OP in scum hands the way I made it but it all worked out 'cause now we caught kita and we get you back.
I think the way I originally wrote it you could choose which alignment you'd rather show up as when you 'die?' I certainly didn't make the fake role up so that's why I was initially confused.
They changed it to me being able to change my role instead.
Which basically isn't all that OP as scum cuz then town can just shoot me right after lynching or vice versa.
It's k.
Haha originally it was more OP than that. Originally you had an extra daylife AND nightlife so the only way you could die was being killed during the twice or at night twice.
Ok I'm actually fine with sk8 being dead, he deserves it for giving kita anything at all. And thus killing me. accomplice to murder is still murder, death sentence is just.
On June 27 2013 15:47 Xatalos wrote: Huh? Didn't anyone notice my latest post yet? In any case, I decided to send "geript is forced to vote for Kitaman27" for now. It's a shame I can't PM Gonzaw or BC (or DI now that he's alive? or half-alive?) with this, but basically I want to use this power in the optimal way to make hammering the most likely scum easier (so: 2nd most likely -> most likely pretty much). With this majority lynch rule it's impossible to get anyone lynched unless most players agree, so this ability doesn't feel that powerful if I just throw it on my own. So Gonzaw/BC/DI, could you vote for a better alternative if you disagree with my choice? Like maybe austinmcc/Crossfire99/Kurumi in place of geript or something.
I also think that one of you three (Gonzaw/BC/DI) will definitely die tonight, probably BC because you have DT, so you can think of this a "vote from the grave" if you want.. Lol.
So did Kitaman27 actually kill Dandel Ion? I'm still too confused about what happened yesterday.
Also everyone should look at geript, I don't think almost anyone(?) has suspected him as scum so far but his filter is full of sheeping and filler posts (AND nothing townish). I think it's more than worth taking a look at.
Did austinmcc fulfill his promise to use that power?
I will vote for kitaman and kitaman only.
Yes he obviously killed me by busdriving the both of us, which basically guarantees him scum. Even if he was survivor (unlikely), he's confirmed playing FOR scum.
There is no way we lynch somebody else. NO way. Don't you morons dare wifom your way out of this. He hangs, end of story.
On June 28 2013 00:38 austinmcc wrote: Gonzaw, a gun that only fires if pointed at scum, listcheck, parity check, a beacon you can drop in the OP on a player that beeps if there is scum nearby in the player list, second TARDIS/TARDIS repair kit, refresher for someone's abilities ... SO MANY OPTIONS. Dont' be complaining that anything town-favored is boring, that's bs, and you finally get to be a frigging inventor.kita's reasons behind his bus on DI make no sense to me. If he were a survivor, he should have been trying to kill mafia. If he busses and kills mafia, he gets on town's good side, he's unlikely to be an immediate lynch candidate, and it brings him closer to endgame (quicker for him to kill mafia than town).
He thought I was mafia yesterday, but didn't use his bus on me. He used it on DI, but it's unclear what kita thought about DI:
I eliminated a player that brought no value to town and seems to have a personal vendetta against myself. However, even if you cut the head off a cockroach, it will still run around aimlessly for a while. Dandel is the type of player that would rather see myself lynched over all else, even if it resulted in a mafia victory. Do I even need to remind you guys that his town flip was fake?
His big post says Dandel brought no value to town and was gonna tunnel kita even if it resulted in mafia victory. Those statements indicate he thinks dandel is town.
On June 27 2013 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote: If he really wanted to work with us as 3P then he could have ensured his own survival by, ya know, NOT KILLING ONE OF US.
Not my fault you masked the alignment and revived my scum snipe. That's your problem.
Those sentences don't go together. DI wasn't helping town and was gonna tunnel kita, but also was scum. Moreover, he thought I was scum yesterday, seems to still think I'm scum, and chose to fire at DI over me.
If he's worried about being tunneled by DI, you know what helps get DI off your back? Shooting your scumread. He thinks I'm scum, so why didn't he bus me, expect to flip scum, knowing that once he did that DI would be happy with him and stop tunnelling, at least for a bit? Because he's not a survivor. Tinfoil hat time, with relation to the above.
kita and DI scumteam.
kita knows DI will rez, AND that he gets to choose what he flips as. kita shoots DI, DI chooses to flip with a town PM. DI resurrects, and they go at each other hard. kita knows that he's about to get killed, by shot or by lynch, and if scum doesn't have anyone in a position above reproach, this lets them maneuver DI into that spot. kita shoots DI, DI flips town, kita and DI go at each other, kita dies, poof. DI has already flipped town AND had a spat with kita. He now looks SUPER TOWN when kita dies.
Does not seem as likely as ... regular options, unless drazerk is smurfing as one of the two. If DI were mafia, may as well wait as long as possible to die, still flip town, still look town, even without the extra push from kita.
kita's words make no sense cause he pulls em out of his ass.
Like for reasoning for bussing me he quotes posts I posted AFTER I resurrected. herpada derpa
On June 28 2013 01:10 Xatalos wrote: Austinmcc's conspiracy theory just triggered a revelation in me...
WHAT IF geript and Kitaman27 are scumbuddies... And geript shot him, knowing that he would bus drive himself with Dandel Ion, 1) killing a hard-to-lynch townie 2) gaining towncred for geript if/when Kitaman27 flipped red 3) making an easy bus bandwagon on Kitaman27 for scum team to gain towncred with. In this case I can see austinmcc being scum as well. Doesn't this seem like a plausible scenario? At least I don't see any obvious flaws in it.
Good thing we'll flip kita tomorrow and will be able to find out.
On June 28 2013 05:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Tomorrows lynch now that I think of it barring extreme shenanigans should be on crossfire. Geript if he is town should use his power to kill xat.
On June 28 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote: No we lynch geript. No one should dayvig until we figure out who has the TARDIS. Since kurumi died and probably didn't use it, that means one of us has it. Claim it if you have it. If you don't claim, I'll take that as a scum claim.
On June 28 2013 06:29 Crossfire99 wrote: No we lynch geript. No one should dayvig until we figure out who has the TARDIS. Since kurumi died and probably didn't use it, that means one of us has it. Claim it if you have it. If you don't claim, I'll take that as a scum claim.
Are you scum?
Shoot Kita, we figure out what to do from there.
You're not think, if Kita has the TARDIS again, do you think that will work!?
On June 28 2013 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Honestly I think Geript is/was lying about stuff. Who wrote his role again? Do we know what it is? Just shoot kita and let's move on.
ACTUALLY...that gun of slots. What is the timing on it? If we use it do we have a high chance of hitting scum?
On June 22 2013 05:10 deconduo wrote: We're balancing the roles right now, roles will go out and day will start once we're done.
By which he means:
We're busy randomly assigning a Batman and Joker role which can't possible be real to mess with you guys
My role was based on the TARDIS, which nobody else could have possibly known about. The fact that kurumi received a message that I had drained the TARDIS once I reached part of my win condition essentially confirms that I'm third party, unless you think the town flip is lying or something.
On June 04 2013 06:37 deconduo wrote: ????? You win if you are alive at the end of the game and have fulfilled your victory condition.
The OP even confirms that the third party role in this game is a survivor, but continue spewing your nonsense about me being mafia, even though Meapak, geript, and likely the remaining mafia members all were trying to get my lynched the first two cycles of the game.
Well good thing you decided to play for scum after they allegedly tried to kill you. makes sense.
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.
Why?
So we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
We should rather kill scum than a survivor.
He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter.
On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote: Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me.
For fucks sake, this means Xfire and Xata can't be town so I have to take away one of the options. Possible Scumteams, V3.0:
Option 1: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is scum Xatalos is scum
Option 2: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is town Xatalos is scum
Option 3: kita is scum Xfire is scum Austin is town Xatalos is town
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.
Why?
So we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
We should rather kill scum than a survivor.
He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter.
If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game
If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit
We could win faster, but risk a lot of shit relying on kita not playing anti-town as fuck, which we can't rely on.
He needs to die. We can slow-roll this game, no problem. I see no need to rush it.
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.
Why?
So we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
We should rather kill scum than a survivor.
He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter.
If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game
If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit
Plus, you should be happy about us flipping kita, because even if he flips 3p, it'll apparantly confirm Xata scum for some reason. Then we just let BC DTcheck into the rest.
On June 29 2013 02:26 gonzaw wrote: This is important, because if we figure out Option 1 is real, then BC shouldn't shoot kita tonight, but rather Austin/Xata
No, the shot needs to be on kita either way.
Why?
So we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
We should rather kill scum than a survivor.
He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter.
If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game
If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit
We could win faster, but risk a lot of shit relying on kita not playing anti-town as fuck, which we can't rely on.
He needs to die. We can slow-roll this game, no problem. I see no need to rush it.
You seem to have forgotten scum have TARDIS, and apparently this super Day-vig thing from Zepphirds role, and have a night KP, and may have bus drivers all over the place.
A busdriver could be good. In conjunction with the medic we can protect both BC and gonzo. Problem is coordinating it is impossible, so it's not all that useful in practice.
On June 29 2013 03:18 gonzaw wrote: So nobody makes any cases or even looks at people's filters?
If Xata were the most pro-town motherfucker around for instance then Xfire attempting to make a case on him would make him fuck up.
If you want YOU make the case instead
I just want to be convinced which one of them is scum and which one town, either from themselves or someone else (I could read their filters I guess...but I'm not in the mood to do that since I've done so already). Mostly I want them to do some shit, if everybody is lazy as fuck and nobody does shit then we are getting nowhere
Also maybe BC could just shoot kita right now. Meh I just don't want it to fail, but whatever.
Everyone trying to look town by not making cases after they've been told to make cases since clearly only scum would just sheep what they are told to do to look town.
On July 03 2013 09:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Austins power was so fucking pro town that he blended in so well with terrible townies -_-
Wait wasn't there somebody ranting about people equating role = town?
I think I remember somebody like that. Do you know who it was? Cause you should totally talk to him.
His role wasn't what made him town in my head, it was how he used it. HE never was using it on my scum reads. Always giving shit ot me and gonza
Except that really doesn't matter, because he knows who gets what. That's why I raged at him for giving vet instead of medic n1, because it's suuuuuper easy for him as scum to play around it. Like, openly claiming it and shit is not a problem if you are fully able to dodge it anyways.
EPT
Your troll->serious argument feels aimed at Dandel Ion.. But I'm not sure if I agree, since Dandel Ion did start trollish and got more serious later on, but I don't feel like it's any actual scumtell. More like fishing for reactions and conjuring discussion before there's much to talk about, although it'd be better to focus from the beginning IMO. In any case, I don't think that's a really good argument. (You didn't respond to my suspicion of you btw.)![[image loading]](http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/files/2012/12/tardis2.jpg)
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