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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
So we don't have to waste a lynch on him. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
We should rather kill scum than a survivor. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote: Also, just got word that roleblocks give notifications and the hosts got my action last night, so that means xata is lying which means he's scum trying to frame me. For fucks sake, this means Xfire and Xata can't be town so I have to take away one of the options. Possible Scumteams, V3.0: Option 1: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is scum Xatalos is scum Option 2: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is town Xatalos is scum Option 3: kita is scum Xfire is scum Austin is town Xatalos is town ONLY USE THESE (Ignore the previous ones) | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:36 Crossfire99 wrote: We should rather kill scum than a survivor. He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:36 gonzaw wrote: For fucks sake, this means Xfire and Xata can't be town so I have to take away one of the options. Possible Scumteams, V3.0: Option 1: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is scum Xatalos is scum Option 2: kita is 3rd party Xfire is town Austin is town Xatalos is scum Option 3: kita is scum Xfire is scum Austin is town Xatalos is town ONLY USE THESE (Ignore the previous ones) Option 2 looks like BS, 3 scum is too little. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:15 Crossfire99 wrote: Ugh. I don't know what i can do to convince you guys i'm not scum. How about this? Whatever happened to the role Zeph created, the mason dayvig role that has to have been used day 1 to kill solstice. We have all our dayvigs accounted for day 2. We know that I and austin can't be the mason dayvig role, so who has it? xata or kita? One of them is going to kill us again today, because they will have been recharged. P.S austin either lied or mistakenly said that zeph created meapak's role. I'm thinking lied because i believe kita's third party claim because i don't see him knowing about the TARDIS unless he's third party because I know I'm town. I went back to look because of this. Crossfire is right here, I think. I'm either mistaken or we've got some similar roles running around: Meapak's role involved masons and a vig shot + Show Spoiler + You are Rose Tyler! You are a capable and resourceful companion to the Doctor. Throughout your journeys together, you have proven capable of taking the initiative and defusing difficult situations on your own. As such, your own influence is considerable, and you are bound and determined to get people talking. During the day phase, you may PM the host with the names of two players. These two players will then be masoned for the following night phase. Rose Tyler will have read only access to the mason QT, and the masoned players will not be directly told that there is someone observing. At any point in the game, you may permanently give up this power and assume the form of 'the Bad Wolf' by typing ##gaze into the Heart of the TARDIS in thread. The Bad Wolf means business. In the form of 'the Bad Wolf,' you become a dealer of death, and gain one vigilante bullet. This bullet can be used at any time. If used during the day, the Bad Wolf must type ##divide atoms (target) in thread to perform the shot. If used at night, the shot functions as a typical vigilante shot. If the shot is targeted at the Doctor, 'the Bad Wolf' instead deals 1KP to herself. Note to hosts: This is my first PTP so I'm not sure if this is broken as hell. I wanted to include the Bad Wolf storyline for Rose, but it's hard to make this anything other than a KP dealing role. So I ended up with what is essentially a vigilante with flair...a gun with a little bit of extra investigative/manipulative power. You win with The Alliance On June 24 2013 08:06 Zephirdd wrote: The wording of my role is I made an addendum that it's a normal dayvig that needs a day to recharge. so yeah, it's instant(or as soon as the host sees it). I might be wrong however. It is possible that there is another dayvig role. The role is Madam Vastra. also, anonymous dayvigs are fun, what's the issue? :D On June 25 2013 06:04 Zephirdd wrote: I'm pretty sure he is responsible for solstice's death. When I mention that I created a mason role, he mentions that he knows who created his role => I created his role => he the anonymous dayvig On June 25 2013 06:23 Zephirdd wrote: I was fishing for the mason-dayvig because it seems nobody else made a role that could have shot solstice. Also anyone masoned with this guy is in serious danger today. Simply put, I made the role in a way that you don't want to keep your mason alive, hence it being a dayvig as well. Meapak didn't have the language Zephirdd used, so it's possible we had TWO people create mason + vigi roles? Either the hosts nerfed Zephir's role, changed it slightly (maybe because MZ was scum and so the name/powers didn't quite line up?), or ... two masons/vigis. Has anyone been masoned and not spoken up? Besides...whatever it was N1, gonzaw and someone? We DO know, however, that whether there's only one mason/vigi or two (MZ + Zephir's role recipient), MZ did not kill solstice on D1, as his dayvigi needs to be activated in thread. So we're still short the identity of whoever shot solstice D1, and what they used to do so. ALL THE REST OF THIS CRAP IS CONFUSING. DOES THE MAGICAL EWOK WHISTLE NOT SOLVE THE GAME AND WORLD HUNGER SIMULTANEOUSLY? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:37 Dandel Ion wrote: He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter. If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:39 gonzaw wrote: If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit We could win faster, but risk a lot of shit relying on kita not playing anti-town as fuck, which we can't rely on. He needs to die. We can slow-roll this game, no problem. I see no need to rush it. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On June 29 2013 01:34 gonzaw wrote: You are 3P survivor, why do you give a shit what we think of Xfire if you win either way? Why would you get nervous just because some townie is speculating about some random players you SHOULDNT care about? You havent' posted ANY interesting thing at all until right now, yet a random townie accuses some other random townie/scum and suddenly you come out of nowhere to defend him? Huh kita? Mind explaining that to me? lol I'm defending myself, not xfire. We aren't scum buddies. On June 29 2013 01:44 gonzaw wrote: You are indeed getting too nervous for being the "cool 3P survivor that doesn't give a shit about the game" Who said I don't care about the game? I certainly do care whether or not I win. On June 29 2013 02:37 Dandel Ion wrote: He's scum-aligned survivor even if he is that, so it doesn't matter. lol go away. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:39 gonzaw wrote: If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit Plus, you should be happy about us flipping kita, because even if he flips 3p, it'll apparantly confirm Xata scum for some reason. Then we just let BC DTcheck into the rest. I really see no downside. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:38 austinmcc wrote: I went back to look because of this. Crossfire is right here, I think. I'm either mistaken or we've got some similar roles running around: Meapak's role involved masons and a vig shot + Show Spoiler + You are Rose Tyler! You are a capable and resourceful companion to the Doctor. Throughout your journeys together, you have proven capable of taking the initiative and defusing difficult situations on your own. As such, your own influence is considerable, and you are bound and determined to get people talking. During the day phase, you may PM the host with the names of two players. These two players will then be masoned for the following night phase. Rose Tyler will have read only access to the mason QT, and the masoned players will not be directly told that there is someone observing. At any point in the game, you may permanently give up this power and assume the form of 'the Bad Wolf' by typing ##gaze into the Heart of the TARDIS in thread. The Bad Wolf means business. In the form of 'the Bad Wolf,' you become a dealer of death, and gain one vigilante bullet. This bullet can be used at any time. If used during the day, the Bad Wolf must type ##divide atoms (target) in thread to perform the shot. If used at night, the shot functions as a typical vigilante shot. If the shot is targeted at the Doctor, 'the Bad Wolf' instead deals 1KP to herself. Note to hosts: This is my first PTP so I'm not sure if this is broken as hell. I wanted to include the Bad Wolf storyline for Rose, but it's hard to make this anything other than a KP dealing role. So I ended up with what is essentially a vigilante with flair...a gun with a little bit of extra investigative/manipulative power. You win with The Alliance On June 24 2013 08:06 Zephirdd wrote: The wording of my role is I made an addendum that it's a normal dayvig that needs a day to recharge. so yeah, it's instant(or as soon as the host sees it). I might be wrong however. It is possible that there is another dayvig role. The role is Madam Vastra. also, anonymous dayvigs are fun, what's the issue? :D On June 25 2013 06:04 Zephirdd wrote: I'm pretty sure he is responsible for solstice's death. When I mention that I created a mason role, he mentions that he knows who created his role => I created his role => he the anonymous dayvig On June 25 2013 06:23 Zephirdd wrote: I was fishing for the mason-dayvig because it seems nobody else made a role that could have shot solstice. Also anyone masoned with this guy is in serious danger today. Simply put, I made the role in a way that you don't want to keep your mason alive, hence it being a dayvig as well. Meapak didn't have the language Zephirdd used, so it's possible we had TWO people create mason + vigi roles? Either the hosts nerfed Zephir's role, changed it slightly (maybe because MZ was scum and so the name/powers didn't quite line up?), or ... two masons/vigis. Has anyone been masoned and not spoken up? Besides...whatever it was N1, gonzaw and someone? We DO know, however, that whether there's only one mason/vigi or two (MZ + Zephir's role recipient), MZ did not kill solstice on D1, as his dayvigi needs to be activated in thread. So we're still short the identity of whoever shot solstice D1, and what they used to do so. ALL THE REST OF THIS CRAP IS CONFUSING. DOES THE MAGICAL EWOK WHISTLE NOT SOLVE THE GAME AND WORLD HUNGER SIMULTANEOUSLY? Hmm, therefore either Xata or kita have that role most likely Kita never really did anything, so it's possible We never got confirmation about Xata's "votethief" either. I mean, conveniently he used it on WOS on N1 and it conveniently "didn't work". He got RBed last night so he couldn't have shown us it either (although unless he's scumbuddies with Xfire he wouldn't have known Xfire would claim to RB him, so what would he have done if Xfire didn't RB him?) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:39 gonzaw wrote: If we kill kita but not all scum, then the game still goes on If we kill all scum but not kita, then we already win the game If we figure out kita is indeed 3P, then we HAVE to shoot Xatalos instead (check the options above), we could win the game faster. Unless you believe scum-aligned-survivor kita has an ability that can wreck town shit He's already BEEN wrecking town shit. What you guys don't seem to understand is that he contradicted himself with his claim about 3P survivor. He claimed to want to play with town to win, and he could have done so, but instead he kills one of us, then claiming he was worried that if we were in a good position we'd have room to lynch him so he was trying to force LYLO. IF HE WAS PLAYING WITH/FOR US WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE LYNCH HIM FOR NO REASON? Just to fuck him over and win solely as town? Makes no sense. Kita is scum, and that's all there is to it. There is enough hidden role bullshit flying around that his knowledge of the TARDIS can be explained through other means, ie masoning. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:41 Dandel Ion wrote: We could win faster, but risk a lot of shit relying on kita not playing anti-town as fuck, which we can't rely on. He needs to die. We can slow-roll this game, no problem. I see no need to rush it. You seem to have forgotten scum have TARDIS, and apparently this super Day-vig thing from Zepphirds role, and have a night KP, and may have bus drivers all over the place. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:45 gonzaw wrote: You seem to have forgotten scum have TARDIS, and apparently this super Day-vig thing from Zepphirds role, and have a night KP, and may have bus drivers all over the place. It's fine. Have a little faith. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:45 gonzaw wrote: You seem to have forgotten scum have TARDIS, and apparently this super Day-vig thing from Zepphirds role, and have a night KP, and may have bus drivers all over the place. This is why I say we need my bus drive tonight to prevent scum from easily planning tonight | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
In conjunction with the medic we can protect both BC and gonzo. Problem is coordinating it is impossible, so it's not all that useful in practice. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 29 2013 02:45 WaveofShadow wrote: He's already BEEN wrecking town shit. What you guys don't seem to understand is that he contradicted himself with his claim about 3P survivor. He claimed to want to play with town to win, and he could have done so, but instead he kills one of us, then claiming he was worried that if we were in a good position we'd have room to lynch him so he was trying to force LYLO. IF HE WAS PLAYING WITH/FOR US WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE LYNCH HIM FOR NO REASON? Just to fuck him over and win solely as town? Makes no sense. Kita is scum, and that's all there is to it. There is enough hidden role bullshit flying around that his knowledge of the TARDIS can be explained through other means, ie masoning. If so then Xfire confirmed scum to you, right? The only way a mason thing could have anything to do with this is if kita was masoned with either sk8 or Xfire. Nobody claimed shit, so it's obvious it doesn't really matter (also I think Zepphird said his role would get masoned with his target, not that his role could choose 2 players to mason; that was MZ's role) Hmm..I may have missed something, if you want re-check those "options for scumteam" thing above. Because of Xfire's claim, At the very least 1 of Xfire or Xata is scum. Because of the above, if kita is scum then Xfire is scum, if Xfire is town kita is 3P survivor. Everything else is concluded using those 2. | ||
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