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On June 25 2013 06:20 WaveofShadow wrote: I knew it when I saw you fishing early, hence why I asked the thread if its more likely to be from a town or scum perspective. My role is dorium maldovar, some headless monk thing. I die but ILL NEVER STOP TALKING Geript care to confirm? What? So you died but you can still tank..? | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:21 austinmcc wrote: ugh. gg acro. Xata, part of my role involves making sure people don't have bears. That PM is related to me. Shame on you for having a bear. That's a bomb or something? Nice.. | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Meapak is mafia Wait a minute. Are you Vig + Detective?? | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:27 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd lynch MZ sure. Dem scums always try and mislynch me every game and every game they fail. Are you alive or dead now? What did that daypost even mean? | ||
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That sounds really overpowered. Hmm. Well, we have to lynch A) you or B) Meapak now. I liked Meapak's case on WOS but he's been lurking otherwise. Brb rereading filters. | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:30 geript wrote: He's somewhere in between ......Okay. He can still post despite losing his head. I guess he can't vote anymore? | ||
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On June 25 2013 06:33 austinmcc wrote: BC claims he got his bullet back. He shoots Meapak. Meapak red, BC as town as you can get. Meapak not red, BC probably about as lynched as you can get. Just the fact that it easily plays out like that means he's almost certainly not lying. This doesn't actually make me feel good. You're dead, but not dead, can scumhunt, but sticking with "Oh also, I'm not a threat to anyone"? Actually... Why didn't I think of that? BC, please shoot Meapak. That'll spare a lot of work. | ||
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 Damn it, Vig+DT.... That's so good. | ||
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On June 25 2013 07:00 deconduo wrote: Rose Tyler had been acting increasingly suspicious, and eventually someone acted on it. A sword ripped through her stomach and she dissolved into a heap of fleshy goo. Colonel Manton laughed far away in his control room, "Looks like they figured out about our Doppelgängers." A voice responded from the shadows, "Looks like you forgot to watch your back" Meapak_Ziphh as Rose Tyler as Colonel Manton has been eviscerated. + Show Spoiler + You are Colonel Manton In order to trick the doctor you and your allies have kidnapped and disguised as some of his allies. In addition you have taken their powers. [Redacted] Your allies are: [Redacted] You have a [Redacted] You win with The Church Your disguise is as follows: --------- You are Rose Tyler! You are a capable and resourceful companion to the Doctor. Throughout your journeys together, you have proven capable of taking the initiative and defusing difficult situations on your own. As such, your own influence is considerable, and you are bound and determined to get people talking. During the day phase, you may PM the host with the names of two players. These two players will then be masoned for the following night phase. Rose Tyler will have read only access to the mason QT, and the masoned players will not be directly told that there is someone observing. At any point in the game, you may permanently give up this power and assume the form of 'the Bad Wolf' by typing ##gaze into the Heart of the TARDIS in thread. The Bad Wolf means business. In the form of 'the Bad Wolf,' you become a dealer of death, and gain one vigilante bullet. This bullet can be used at any time. If used during the day, the Bad Wolf must type ##divide atoms (target) in thread to perform the shot. If used at night, the shot functions as a typical vigilante shot. If the shot is targeted at the Doctor, 'the Bad Wolf' instead deals 1KP to herself. Note to hosts: This is my first PTP so I'm not sure if this is broken as hell. I wanted to include the Bad Wolf storyline for Rose, but it's hard to make this anything other than a KP dealing role. So I ended up with what is essentially a vigilante with flair...a gun with a little bit of extra investigative/manipulative power. You win with The Alliance That was really epic by BC. Basically it also confirms BC (and WOS probably, although he's practically dead now anyway). Meapak's red flip should reveal a lot basically, since I highly doubt they expected this turn of events at all. I'm out of time now so I'll just park my vote at austinmcc given his strangely weak/useless play all game and Meapak not wanting to lynch him either. It's hard to think of a better lynch in any case. Thanks BC. ##Vote austinmcc | ||
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On June 25 2013 11:10 gonzaw wrote: Okay, D1 analysis time, I think Zepphird is town after all, based on D1: Almost ONE HOUR before deadline, this was the voting count. But it's "worse" than that, in the sense that I voted Zepphird by that time as well, so Zeph had 5 votes, while sk8 had 6. At this point there were NO OTHER COUNTERWAGONs, Then this happens: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18985299 Zepphird UNVOTES SK8. This puts Zepphird at 5 votes tied with sk8. It is some time later (with no other votes changing), that Dandel initiates the snb counterwagon. Not Meapak, not Zepphird, not any other shifty character (i.e shody scum), but Dandel. Dandel's push of snb was mostly about not killing sk8, not really about Zepphird. So, if Zepphird is scum....wtf are scum doing? Zepph unvotes the main lynch candidate to put him in even more peril? Unless ALL scum were on sk8, no other scum could do anything? Not even Meapak? Zepphird just casually goes along, posting about sk8, then about solstice. Doesn't look like a nervous scum that knows could get wagoned and die in any minute. There is one "weird" thing though, Meapak votes Zepphird when Zeph had 3 votes, then disappears, but comes back exactly 1 hour later after the snb push (not before). If they were scumbuddies, and they were confident Zepphird would NOT get lynched (if they analyzed town sentiment correctly), maybe they just let MZ bus him, but one he gathered votes wait until he loses votes to come again and "push" him. But...are they that "smart" to do that? This is something else that makes me think he may be town. Would scum Zepphird do that "mistake", regarding the guy he's pushing RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE? This seems like a mistake of just not reading correctly things that have happened, but still wanting to post your thoughts on the matter because you are keeping up with the thread. It doesn't seem like a deliberate "plan" from scum to....do something about it (maybe appear more townie by appearing to make dumb mistakes?), specially if he ends that with "this makes me less wanting to lynch sols". I doubt a scum would make such "let's fake some town trait and rush to appear townie" saying he thinks his scum target is less scummy. There are 2 options if he's scum: 1)He thought it was genuine (he really thought sol didn't vote snb): In which case...then what? He, as scum, would honestly believe sol didn't vote snb, and he said out loud, in the thread, he thinks sol is less scum because of it. Half an hour before deadline. If he's scum.....what would he do next? Why would he "flip-flop" like that, which (in his scum eyes') would at best do nothing and at worst put more attention to him (for flip flopping on sol, his scumread), to then end up with a null read on his target? He'd have to push someone else in 30 minutes? Why? Why go through that unnecessary effort to expose himself even more? Doesn't make sense 2)He already knew sol voted snb: This is what I was stating before. If this was a "plan" by scum Zepphird...for what purpose? For nothing basically, since it was done in the rush of a lynch and nobody paid notice to it (until I did just now). If it was in the middle of the day, or with a "blunder" (like actually voting someone and "fucking up", to make us WIFOM, etc), then it'd be a different thing, but here, if it was planned, it makes no sense at all. Look at, for instance, confirmed scum Meapak. He had a clear agenda the whole time before deadline: Push Zepphird and complain to other people in sporadic posts. You can see that agenda every time he posts. There's no such agenda with Zepphird's posts....he's just there...he's just existing in the thread keeping up with it, and making rushed comments like those, which end up being mistakes. So yeah, Zepphird is most likely town, unless someone would like to refute all this and go the "MZ super bussed him knowing he wouldn't get lynched and Zepphird is just cool as hell as scum" route or something. So...one less suspect, that leaves Kurumi, austin, snb, Xfire and maybe geript/kita to me Should be easy finding 3 scum there, right? (although I kind of want to wait for sk8 to see wtf he's going to do) Hmm, I also kind of want to reread Xatalos...just in case (the "anti-Xatalos" guys, solstice and Acro to an extent, are dead, so I want to be sure before he keeps living and he's either scum or we get paranoid as hell later. I invite people to do that as well.) Xatalos, do you have links to previous games of yours please? I already asked before. Yeah, Zephirdd being Meapak's go-to target D1 makes me feel better about Zephirdd. Also, he shot WOS at the start of D2. WOS is most likely town based on Meapak. I guess you could say it was a "plan to shoot a bad-looking guy and get away with it" by Zephirdd, but ask yourself this: WHY WOULD SCUM SHOOT AN EASY MISLYNCH / ANTI-TOWN / NOT DANGEROUS player now and not save the bullet for an actually dangerous player later? I just don't see it. Both of these points make me to heavily lean town on Zephirdd. Actually you're right.. Everyone who ever called me scum is dead now. I guess it makes a certain amount of sense if I was a scum day-Vigi and shot them both (s0Lstice at day, Acro at night). Self-preservation to the max?  Haha.... I'm still not exactly sure why s0Lstice was shot. At least it makes sk8r and Zephirdd less likely scum, I guess. Not sure if that applies to austinmcc as well (considering he didn't get into great danger before s0Lstice was shot, but several people were willing to lynch him anyway). Of course this is all useless speculation and it might have been a 3rd party, some weird special role or something. Very hard to say with all these powers.I'm on my phone now and it's a real pain to edit links etc. Can't you just go to my profile, post history, browse? It shouldn't take longer than like 1-2min to open all my previous games, I don't have that many after all. | ||
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On June 25 2013 20:09 Dandel Ion wrote: btw this where I'm at atm: Process of Elimination yay town: Dandel Ion (derp) Zephirdd xxSK8rGUy277xx Xatalos gonzaw BloodyC0bbler WaveofShadow Kurumi not really town: Crossfire99 geript kitaman27 mafia scum: austinmcc strongandbig Not in any particular order really. How did you arrive at town for Kurumi btw? And why is Crossfire99 not really town while Kurumi is...... Considering that Crossfire99 being scum and sk8r being town doesn't really make sense. Could use some reasoning as well with those reads.. Otherwise basically agreed. | ||
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When it comes to WOS and Zephirdd, the situation is much clearer. Meapak is consistently very willing to kill them both during D1 and N1. I seriously doubt he would be bussing this hard right from the start, so I'll put WOS and Zephirdd as probably town. I'm still troubled about WOS for other reasons, but it's pointless to worry about him anymore, since he's "dead" in any case. I'll just assume that he was probably town after all and that Zephirdd is probably town now. Meapak makes a couple of strange remarks about strongandbig. His "lack of activity is disturbing", but "we shouldn't kill him if he hasn't even shown up". Hmm... This makes strongandbig feel more scummy IMO, although it's definitely nothing major. austinmcc is a different story. When you look at Meapak's actions close to the deadline, it becomes clear that Meapak didn't want to kill austinmcc at any point, although he was happy to kill many other players (WOS/s0Lstice/Zephirdd). This is certainly the most incriminating part about another player coming from Meapak's filter. But if austinmcc and strongandbig are both scum... It really looks like the scumteam isn't doing much of anything so far, with Meapak, austinmcc and strongandbig all lurking to some degree. The likely fourth (or 2 more if one of austinmcc/strongandbig is town) would have to come from geript/Kitaman27/Kurumi most likely. Other than that, everyone else feels reasonably townish atm. | ||
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On June 25 2013 22:12 kitaman27 wrote: Guys, Guys. Maybe you all just misunderstand me. When I said "Great performance", I really meant "lol Meapak so obviously scum". Gimme confirmed town status. 100% proof here. Stop grouping me with creeps like Crossfire, geript, and Kurumi. It makes my skin crawl. Maybe you should use that confirmation ability you talked about now Or you know... Scumhunt? Either way works. | ||
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On June 25 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote: Cause crossfire didn't make anyone inventor (even if the invention sucks, he couldn't know that). And.... Didn't do much of anything at all. Since I had krummi in nullzone before that, eh. good enough. Huh... This post went beyond my comprehension. | ||
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On June 25 2013 22:23 Dandel Ion wrote: Krummi made BC inventor Crossfire didn't Crossfire didn't do anything in fact. But I'll make the remaining scumteam kita, austin and snb now. What about Crossfire99 stopping the sk8r bandwagon in its tracks? That felt like a townish thing to do, unless sk8r is scum of course. I agree that he hasn't done much else though..... If anything. Inventor.. You mean that weird picking power? Well, I guess... Hmm. | ||
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On June 25 2013 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote: Beyond Wave -> town, Zeph -> town and austin -> mafia scum I don't think there's too much to take away from MZ's filter. His other interactions are too small and weak. Haha, that was simplified. But maybe it's safer to not analyze it *too* closely for details. | ||
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