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On June 24 2013 05:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I will not switch off of zeph to kill solstice. I'd kill WoS but he's not getting any traction so I'll deal with him another day. You'd rather take no-lynch than lynch a player who is 80% scum and whose flip would reveal TONS of information? | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: He's not 80% scum. He's not even 50% at best. Pull your head out, read some filters, and get informed. Also sol's death tells us like nothing lol. Well, if s0Lstice doesn't flip scum, I'll have to rethink everything. But there's 20 mins left and no time to speculate on possibilities at this point. We lynch, he flips, we move on to new things depending on his flip. We don't lynch, we waste one day, we continue with the same arguments as we did today. | ||
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On June 24 2013 05:46 Dandel Ion wrote: austin is also probably scum just based on how impossible it is to get a wagon on him. Very possible. Too little content in his filter to be sure, but he's lynchable based on what little he *has* posted, which doesn't bode well. | ||
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##Vote austinmcc | ||
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Yeah that's correct. Now vote!! | ||
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On June 24 2013 06:08 geript wrote: So we can talk now? You should talk about why you voted for sk8r when nobody else did, practically voting for no-lynch. | ||
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On June 24 2013 06:31 xxSK8rGUy277xx wrote: I was the only one that didn't want to lynch Solstice. He flipped town, and now you still want to continue tunnelling me. Since he's dead I have no reason to reveal any information to you. Why are you trying to figure out my role so much? I didn't vote Solstice and I didn't vote Austin for the same reason, I think scum were directing the lynch. Lol, that's a pretty lackluster reason I must say...... Why would scum want austinmcc dead when he was A) scum or at least B) otherwise harmful to town and a good lynch candidate for D2? It just makes no sense for scum to rush in and vote for austinmcc. And it didn't even go that well, which proves that scum didn't want it. So austinmcc is either scum or scum otherwise want him alive. | ||
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On June 24 2013 14:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: catching up on this clusterfuck of a thread. Also, why did sk8 not get lynched? Guy actively was saying shit about how I must have faked a shot when HE ACTIVATED A POWER to save his ass. The guy has lied enough times now that he should be dead. Anyone saying "well xfire confirmed his role can do that shit" doesn't make sk8 town. Roles do not equal fucking alignment. I do not know how many times I have to say this in every bloody ptp / pyp games. I will be continuing to catch up on the thread now. I think it was because sk8r thought you had claimed to be roleblocked, while in fact you had only claimed to have your bullet refunded? It's just a misunderstanding from what I see. Can you point to where sk8r has been lying? Because if sk8r is scum, then Crossfire99 is most likely scum too, and I'm leaning town on both of them. Not to mention that if they're both scum, I highly doubt they would have pulled a risky move like this. | ||
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On June 24 2013 07:06 Kurumi wrote: Eh, I probably should cool off and rethink everything. Could you please share your thoughts before deadline? Not sure if you're scum/town atm, and it'd be in your own best interest to make me think you're town during this time.. | ||
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On June 24 2013 10:09 austinmcc wrote: BC, are you around? If so, you want a present or want your choice to get? Time is limited before presents go in the mail, but will ship it along if I don't hear from you. NOW ONTO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS JEEBUS STOP LYNCHING ME. If you think you can usually read me and you haven't been able to do so this game, that might be because I'm not normally this absent. As EITHER alignment. Go read my stupid scum games, I'm always trying to plot and direct things and getting shot down when I try to get the scum team to engage in stupid plans, except for CT mafia maybe cuz I replaced in there. To those who actually think I'm scummy, you guys should knock it off as well. I don't bring presents to people who think I'm scummy except maybe I do. Ugh. Also, not scum. Gonna sort through the rest of this tomorrow at work. I agree that I've never seen you this absent before. That's not all though. I associate a heavy townish atmosphere with your name (from earlier memories), and I haven't got such a feeling from any of your posts so far. I don't think you were all that active before either, but you looked townish (analytical/helpful/insightful) with your posts. Where's that in this game? Please start playing like town if you actually ARE town. Otherwise your life expectancy isn't looking too good. | ||
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LOL hahahaha... Good point.. Maybe I should reconsider my townread on BC after all. This heavy bias and inconsistent attitudes towards players sadly doesn't radiate townishness  Being AFK for the pre-lynch hour(s) doesn't make me feel any better either. BC town -> null. | ||
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On June 24 2013 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I am tres sad Solstice wasn't scum. My tryhard pants must have holes in them or something. Hey Kurumi. Since you like bluefishing so much, let's talk about roles. Solstice can come back to the thread anytime he likes, correct? Is there a point in waiting until later in the game to do so? Also I know who wrote my role. :D That's a pretty happy tone in your post after mislynch, isn't it..? Well, however that may be, more importantly could you share your top scumreads sooner rather than later? You jumped on s0Lstice so easily (basically with only a meta-reason which didn't appear until AFTER you had already voted....) so right now you appear scummier than before I switched from you to s0Lstice. There are still few townish posts in your filter that make me reconsider, but it's not too hard for scum to do towny things once in a while. So do you have anything original, genuine that you want to push tomorrow? Or is it going to be filler posts -> join some bandwagon again? | ||
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On June 24 2013 06:45 Zephirdd wrote: Welp. I don't think geript is mafia. I do think the austin lynch had no mafia on it(Dandel,Xatalos,kitaman,xfire,gonzaw all feel townie to me, xfire less than others but not that much). I think that if austin was town, scum would make sure to hammer him 100% as it would not bring in that much suspicion towards the hammer(it was a wtf-wagon) I think M_Z disappearing conveniently is bad I think Kurumi tunneling sk8r is bad I think austin and BC being afk is bad I think that the way the sk8r wagon worked makes him look bad, but a lot of shit I said about sk8r had a basic assumption which was wrong I think WoS is TOO inactive for his own good, and that he was a much better player on roulette @Xatalos killing an extra town player on day 1 is extremely beneficial for scum because it's one less PR to worry about. Ah, that's a good point too.. Something that increases austinmcc's chances of flipping scum for sure. Bit WIFOM, but I don't see any flaws in coming to that conclusion. Scum might prefer a no-lynch overall, but since if austinmcc were town, he would certainly have blue powers, it would make a lot more sense for scum to get him lynched than in a normal game. He might have some super-powerful blue role after all. The failed bandwagon makes so much more sense if austinmcc is scum and scum abstained from voting, although there's the smaller chance that they judged he would be more useful alive than dead even as town. | ||
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On June 24 2013 23:43 Acrofales wrote: Why'd everybody go quiet? Anyway, lets kill Xatalos. Will make a case, but it basically boils down to him not taking a stance on ANYTHING and circumventing every issue with lots of waffle. I had my suspicions of his thread entry, then he lulled me into a false sense of security with his later day posting, and now it just came roaring back with this string of gems: Translation: I want to call you scum, but don't really want to, but you normally look townie but aren't this time, although you did look townie earlier. So you might die. HUH? If Xata is town, I see absolutely no reason to post this "stream of consciousness". Make up your mind, THEN post. This just feels like a non-post from scum where it seems he's actively contributing with his thought process, but really isn't. This verbal diarrhoea makes me feel slightly better about austin, btw. Next: If I use big words nobody will notice that I am waffling nonsense!!! More stream-of-conscience stuff, but this time with a high dose of stupid. BC isn't contradicting himself here, although DI is an amusing troll. BC is angry at people thinking that having some role means something alignment wise. He says that the WAY austin is USING his role is townie. I disagree, but BC isn't contradicting himself, and if Xata was actually thinking at the same level as he is being verbose, he would realize this. Instead, it's a scum grabbing a cheap opportunity to discredit BC (who is probably town). Onwards and upwards! We didn't mislynch. We no lynched, and s0lstice got shot by you or your cohorts. But that aside. LOOK AT THE BOLDED PART! Xata has been pretty damned inconsistent about WoS, but he seems to have a scumread on him from the start of D1 (and never actually bothers to try and push him, but that aside). Now what do you do to potential scum? You pressure them, you push them. You poke them, and you prod them. Unless, of course, you're scum yourself. Then you ask if they would please oblige you by maybe posting their reads? But not in any hurry, mind you. Also, great example of the pot calling the kettle black, with regards to shoddy reasons for jumping on the s0lstice case. In closing: lets kill Xatalos Haha... What the heck? That came out of nowhere. I hadn't really noticed s0Lstice until Gonzaw made a case on him. That really triggered me to look at his actions, and they were scummy. He had piled dirt on me early on and done absolutely nothing about it. It felt like he had just hoped for it to stick and when it didn't, it was conveniently forgotten. He constantly side-stepped pressure and questions, didn't really participate in any meaningful activity in the thread and was overall a vague and unimpactful poster. All this just screams scum. I'd definitely lynch him again (or yeah, it was a Vig-shot, but same end result anyway) if I went back to the end of D1. How has my stance on WOS been "inconsistent"? It went from weakly scummy to quite scummy and hasn't changed from that. I had a moment of doubt when I started pushing s0Lstice, since there were a couple of townish posts in WOS's filter and he joined me so easily to get s0Lstice lynched. I was pretty convinced s0Lstice was scum, so I didn't think WOS would bus so eagerly and before more significant pressure had yet to form on s0Lstice. So yeah, there was one point in time where I thought that maybe, just maybe he was town after all? There's a clear logic to that though, nothing like how you portray my stance in your case. "Damn inconsistent" ROFL. What? And even funnier is this earlier part "not taking a stance on ANYTHING". You can't be serious right? That fits you much better with your wishy-washy suspicions during D1. Look at my post history if you wonder about my public thought process posts. That's a normal part of my town play. Especially in one newbie game (forgot the name) I had like a 20-page filter full of my thoughts. As scum I'm much more careful and prefer to post neat lists of my stances. Ok, maybe that BC thing is taken a bit out of context. But it's pretty weird that he's so lenient towards austinmcc and so unforgiving towards sk8r when, ultimately, it's about the same thing: confirmation through power usage. I fail to see how sk8r's use of his ability isn't townish at all while austinmcc's ability usage is incredibly townish.. Mind you, WOS *is* in a hurry to start posting. I was just going to post that anyway after seeing his lame response. I'm steadily losing any doubts about him being scum, especially considering his really easy jump on s0Lstice (and the meta-reason he used for that didn't appear until AFTER he had already voted!! - so it was just a justification, not the real reason). I don't think he can change my mind before deadline anyway though, especially since he's apparently not going to post until D2, which is too bad.. For him. | ||
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On June 25 2013 01:46 Acrofales wrote: Okay. Homicidal urge is under control again. Lets go back to killing MZ, SnB and austin. Crisis averted. What... That was really fast. Care to explain how I went from clear scum to townish in a matter of 30min or something? Apparently you read through my previous games. Why did you do that AFTER making your case, not before you met resistance in the form of DI and myself? Sadly it looks like justification to abandon the failed bandwagon... Meaning you appear in a more scummy light based on these recent posts. Also, what exactly about my defense "averted the crisis" (excluding you checking up my posting history)? This is just a very strange chain of events and I want to hear your reasoning. Ugh, I hope I don't have to drop you as well from my townreads.. | ||
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On June 25 2013 02:44 Dandel Ion wrote: I can be very persuasive. Lol, apparently. Is your role perhaps "case destroyer"?  | ||
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