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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 09:49 GMT
#1401
It's a really fucking good reason.

And you have zero good reason for me to actually be the SK.

Toddle along child.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 09:55 GMT
#1402
Here are 4 reasons
1) Scum thinks you are the SK
2) Scum tries to lynch into the marv/MZ to kill the SK (see kyronne logs with me)
3) You are keeping everybody in the dark, pretending to have 0 reads while you are the most (?) experienced player here.
4) Your defense towards all this evidence you give for not being the sk is "it's unlikely guis, you are fucking retarded for not seeing that is it unlikely"

Now give me 4 reasons on your SK read? Oh wait. You don't have one. You don't search for one.


Is it time to ignore each other from now on marv?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 10:03 GMT
#1403
I ignore anyone being dumb on principle

1) Scum fingering someone as SK? Gosh, must be reliable!
2) ditto!
3) I haven't pretended anything. I've been pretty open about where I'm at. See earlier long post I made about how easy it is to appear to care for town when you don't care. Guess you missed that in your reading too
4) I HAVE A GREEN CHECK, this automatically makes me *significantly* less likely to be SK than anyone else, because to assume I'm SK assumes SK is given green-check, when I've never seen this as the SK's 'ability' when it wasn't part of a choice.

You are also sarcastically using the MZ miller example against me, when the primary reason your 1 and 2 have/had any relevance is that MZ and I checked opposite.

Anyone else is more like SK, such as you, for example. I can speculate too - SK shot Korynne for towncred, and who were the people who were pushing Korynne mafia the most? Koshi and kush! Now he's dead so the person shooting him can grub for towncred.... like you just did funnily enough with Korynne! Funny isn't it?

Probably should ignore you for grievous crimes against logic...

...or maybe we should be lynching you next, eh?

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 10:10 GMT
#1404
Scum was 90% sure to win this game if they killed the SK and kept SnB alive. So it is fucking superreliable to use this info.

w.e
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 10:13 GMT
#1405
not my fault you're using unfounded speculation on SK being given check-immunity when it's totally unprecedented. no, that's fine. you carry on dear.

if scum are worried about the SK and apparently the SK magically has green-check status (lol), then they could just shoot the SK at night if they so chose. Funny they don't though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 10:15 GMT
#1406
They didn't want to shoot the SK because their entire tactic was based upon lynching into marv/mz the next day and if they didn't hit the SK they would lynch the other guy the day after that.

How many times do I have to say this?

I am done with you. You are clearly done with me.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#1407
So having missed lynching into the 'SK' yesterday, they decided not to shoot at the SK, who according to you doesn't have bulletproof immunity (still lol). Guess they're happy for the SK to keep on shooting mafia right?

And again, green check. I'll keep reiterating that you're using totally unfounded setup speculation against all rational evidence, because it's fun to do so and it's correct to do so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#1408
Like the guy who you are voting for.

He said:
before night:
"I am playing with my thumbs because this will be an important night."
after night
"OMG guys LETS LYNCH INTO MZ/MARV"

Like every excuse you give is proof you don't read this thread. While you already admitted that you compulsively read this thread. And you call me bad?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 10:22 GMT
#1409
I assume you mean Wiggles? (who I'm not voting for yet)

Scum HAD to try to lynch into MZ/me based on the check business, because they needed *a* mislynch, ANY mislynch.

Unless you're seriously suggesting that strongandbig could be saved by just casually shunting suspicion on some random townie?

No, s&b was pretty fucked and they needed to play on something like a parity check to make something happen.

All your logic is bad.

And lol green check/unfounded speculation etc. trololololol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 10:24 GMT
#1410
On July 29 2013 19:18 marvellosity wrote:
So having missed lynching into the 'SK' yesterday, they decided not to shoot at the SK, who according to you doesn't have bulletproof immunity (still lol). Guess they're happy for the SK to keep on shooting mafia right?

And again, green check. I'll keep reiterating that you're using totally unfounded setup speculation against all rational evidence, because it's fun to do so and it's correct to do so.

I don't know why they decided it was better to kill a cop. Maybe they forgot that SK could shoot scum. Or they were so focussed on what happened what would happen in a 4/3/1 situation (remember kyronne)

I don't fucking know. But keep piling up the bad arguments.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 10:25 GMT
#1411
You're a qtie patootie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 10:26 GMT
#1412
Arffff. w.e you are the vetaran here.

We had a good argument and I will see what the rest of the thread thinks of it.

At least we gave them something to think about.
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 16:23 GMT
#1413
On July 29 2013 12:42 Mocsta wrote:
(11/25)
Freudian slip.

Read the quote. Substitute Marv for vayne.

I have done a detailed filter read on both kush and vayne.

I personally don't like kush, but COULD see him as town.
Vayne on the other hand has some characteristics that are sounding large bells.
Specifically he loves to debate semantics that have no major bearing on scum hunting, and then glosses over game changers.
E.g. his reaction the snb firing a vig shot was to pass it off as not alignment indicative.

Where I get stuck with vayne is stuff like pointing out the korynne role pm. I found that really useful because as soon. As a I saw red pardoner I just assumed it was the logic puzzle that solved rayn so never actually read the pm... I guess the converse is that if he was scum, he was already award of korynne deficiency so it was natural to be able to point this out?

I still want a wiggles lynch. Don't get me wrong, he is my focus for lynch.
I'm just trying to stimulate more Convo.



I really need posts btw, so if i could get some donations that would be great.

if you did read my filter then you saw that I explained in pretty large depth why I saw SnB as not scummy once I put the pieces together. That was obviously wrong. You're pulling a koshi here and not moving on to the present, being static in your reads which is weird since you replaced in.

I pointed out the role PM because I thought it showed that rayn had not been being truthful with us but it seems he is upholding that he never pardoned. So I guess there's a 3rd pardoner or he's still lying. Still not sure there but as you said we can take care of the weird shit the following cycle.

The fact the vote is so close right now confirms my suspicion that wiggles is just going to lurk and hope for the best since he knows opening his mouth will fuck him like it did SnB. He's gonna try and drop a vote on meapak last second and see if it works. There's no doubt in my mind he's scum at this point. We gave him plenty of time.

I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 16:26 GMT
#1414
On July 29 2013 17:11 Koshi wrote:
VA. You would agree that you look insanely scummy right now? After the SnB flip you were advoacting that we had to look at the people voting SnB without reason, now after the Kyronne flip you are currently voting for Wiggles.
You do realise that you are the 4th guy that was off the SnB wagon?


Can we get some SK hunting in here or are we going to ignore that problem? If we would get the SK this lynch that would be perfect for town. So why are we ignoring it?
My list is still the same. With marv being on top, this was his defense on my previous accusation:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
I'm clearly not the SK. I have a greencheck on me. What's wrong with you people?

1) there's no reason to believe SK gets to "choose" between alignment/one-shotbulletproof

even given 1),

2) I WOULD NEVER CHOOSE TO APPEAR GREEN OVER BULLETPROOF. I've been shot more times playing mafia than almost all of you have played games of mafia.

There's approximately a 0% chance I'm SK at this stage, just on basic logic and deduction.

Anyone pushing that line of thinking is highly suspicious or very stupid.

I love Mocsta for pointing out that hapa was able to choose green or bulletproof. That makes marv his second point perfect. Because he doesn't lie and he hides the fact he is the SK because of that.
Also, why would the SK be able to choose between bulletproof and greencheck? Where did that come from? Maybe it was just being green in the setup? It looks like scum has only 1 KP this game or SK was able to always overlap with scum. So bulletproof looks pretty unlikely.

Can we please discuss the SK issue? I am pretty sure that we found them scummies.


No, I don't think I look scummy at all. I've been trying to solve this game the entire time, just as much as anybody else. You try to use static information to incriminate me but fail to incorporate time into the equation.

Look at people for bussing SnB = before night killings

voting wiggles = after korynne flip

Yea I realize I am the 4th and I explained that a bit back ago as my change of heart. I did not think korynne was mafia so the fact that he was made me think differently about the whole situation. I realized that scum may have tried to use my vote to get the lynch on marv through.
I come in for the scraps
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 29 2013 16:56 GMT
#1415
On July 30 2013 01:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2013 12:42 Mocsta wrote:
(11/25)
Freudian slip.

Read the quote. Substitute Marv for vayne.

I have done a detailed filter read on both kush and vayne.

I personally don't like kush, but COULD see him as town..
Vayne on the other hand has some characteristics that are sounding large bells.
Specifically he loves to debate semantics that have no major bearing on scum hunting, and then glosses over game changers.
E.g. his reaction the snb firing a vig shot was to pass it off as not alignment indicative.

Where I get stuck with vayne is stuff like pointing out the korynne role pm. I found that really useful because as soon. As a I saw red pardoner I just assumed it was the logic puzzle that solved rayn so never actually read the pm... I guess the converse is that if he was scum, he was already award of korynne deficiency so it was natural to be able to point this out?

I still want a wiggles lynch. Don't get me wrong, he is my focus for lynch.
I'm just trying to stimulate more Convo.



I really need posts btw, so if i could get some donations that would be great.

if you did read my filter then you saw that I explained in pretty large depth why I saw SnB as not scummy once I put the pieces together. That was obviously wrong. You're pulling a koshi here and not moving on to the present, being static in your reads which is weird since you replaced in.

I pointed out the role PM because I thought it showed that rayn had not been being truthful with us but it seems he is upholding that he never pardoned. So I guess there's a 3rd pardoner or he's still lying. Still not sure there but as you said we can take care of the weird shit the following cycle.

The fact the vote is so close right now confirms my suspicion that wiggles is just going to lurk and hope for the best since he knows opening his mouth will fuck him like it did SnB. He's gonna try and drop a vote on meapak last second and see if it works. There's no doubt in my mind he's scum at this point. We gave him plenty of time.



(12/25)+1 donation to VA
As I said before. I'm lynching wiggles.
Unfortunately u voted him before me, but I can live with that.

AS for the rest of this response, it's a wrong on many fronts.
1. Instead of addressing the problems, you are going ad hom. This is then continued in discourse with koshi.

2. You still didn't address why you knew the content of the korynne role pm.
I explained why I didn't read it, and I think many town would have treated the situation the same as me.
You could argue that you read everything in detail, word for word.. but if that was the case. You would have known that my read on you was far from static.

3. Yes the vote is close and I'm concerned about consolidating.

Its why I will only donate to you 1 post. Us debating will do no good to consolidate on wiggles, as both our votes are already there.

##give:VA 1 post
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 29 2013 17:09 GMT
#1416
I wasn't trying to discredit you so ad hom is incorrect. Just weird that you brought that up again when it is one of the things I've had to address the most in this game and I've written plenty of posts on it.

The difference being that the night post is a few words and many posts in mafia are, forgive me for my bluntness, not concise and tedious to read. I end up skimming a lot of the long winded ones. I disagree that your read wasn't static as the SnB thing basically happened ages ago in game time but whatever.

a few questions for you

What do you make of the many strange posts that have happened lately (rayn randomly flipping out, koshi/marv argument, etc)

Do you have any evidence that would contradict that you and Meapak are the last two scum?

and finally, koshi = annoying self reightous town or bussing scum mastermind?
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 17:15 GMT
#1417
Mastermind sounds correct.
I had a good night of sleep.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
July 29 2013 17:17 GMT
#1418
Fuck I've been busy. Who are we lynching?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 29 2013 17:21 GMT
#1419
For lunch we will have sheep.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 29 2013 17:26 GMT
#1420
We're lynching Wiggles, kush. Hoppity hop <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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