EPT[N] Sicilian Mafia Style - Page 5
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On July 23 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote: Alright I'll try to go through this. I know you think it's silly but you can't pretend like you couldn't pull this off. It's not that pretentious. 1. The bussing thing is irrelevant since if I am scum like you say I am, then what is the difference between us there? 2. You don't need the claim from gumshoe, the fact that he wanted to claim to you is enough to let you know its something fairly important. Also note that he died the first night...doesn't exactly help your case since you were masoned with him. I thought the silencing thing didn't make sense at first but lets be real it's not that great of a role. Why risk confirming some one as town when you can just silence a teammate? It reduces the effort they have to put in and makes them more townie. Its a win/win. 3. If you are a scum-sided pardoner then your best bet is to immediately claim and use your pardon without admitting it so that you can fuck with the town. If you don't claim then you are a lot less immune proof and you definitely don't get masoned by so many people. It allows you to be behind the scenes and manipulate people as a result of your claim. 4. just a repeat of 2 5. just a repeat of 1 The one thing you have going for you here that you didn't mention for whatever reason is that I don't think you are dumb enough to do the fake claim and then @ late game obviously everyone will wonder wtf you are still alive. That fact alone is making me re-think that you are scum, but the rest of the stuff you just said? Doesn't really change anything about the theory. Being alive does not make me mafia, and you didn't comment on the "bussing Sloosh" part at all. But yeah, i can see your thought process behind the other stuff. I just don't think i need to use mafia powers in order to "confirm" me, i can handle shit otherwise as scum. In rebuttal What is the difference between us when it comes to sloosh that you are trying to misrepresent/pounce on me for? Why are you letting up now that its apparent that only MZ shares your interests (who I believe is scum for sure btw) And as an aside, why do you think marv is so happy go lucky in this game? If we compare this game to the new game that just started where he's hydra'ed with VE, he is getting into some crazy arguments and being pretty confrontational. Here he's settling fights and just doing some basic analyzation but not really pushing for anything. If we cross analyze that with his "I don't get into fights as scum" thing I find it hard to believe he is town this game, but he doesn't feel like scum either. 3rd party marv? - I am not trying to misrepresent you. I was just saying D2 votes on Sloosh do not mean much. I actually think you are town as yu are trying to figure out stuff and i don't think mafia would call me out for the pardoning. I just got mad at you because i didn't understand how someone could think what you thought. - What do you mean by letting up? You mean giving up? It's all emotional and i dealt with it already. I am gonna play the game, and yes, i could see MZ as scum too. - The thing that bothers me about marv is that he was masoned with Vivax for a long time and they didn't get anything done besides votes on kholly. ´We know Vivax flipped town, so i dunno. marv could go either way but i have some serious doubts on him. He had a good post in analyzing the voting patterns but that's pretty much it. All in all i would kill at least Sloosh / SnB before either one of marv/MZ. | ||
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@marv what do you mean it doesn't make sense for town to shoot ace. He was actively refusing to engage in any way that could either help find scum or show us he's town. And he was actively disrupting and confusing the thread and advancing the scum agenda. I know how hard it is to get ace lunched, and I had a bullet, so I shot him. Plus I got to shoot ace. Right in the face. The bolded parts interestingly fit into your play perfectly SnB. Plus you shot Ace, who was not scummy as you claim. | ||
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I have information about a parity cop check that is Meapak - marv "different". Given what Sloosh said this gonna be something to discuss. | ||
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On July 24 2013 07:34 kushm4sta wrote: wait rayne you have 2 blue roles wtf Having information does not mean i am a cop. | ||
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This includes a lot of people. I am protecting their identity and you need to tell me who is scum and why: There is a person X who is masoned with a Z. Z claims parity cop to X (this is not confirmed), and claims they have a "different" check on marv-meapak. X is masoned with Y. They tell Y this (not confirmed) and tell them to share that information with someone to tell that in thread. Y is masoned with me, tells me about this and asks if it's wise to say that in thread. Here is my response to them: There is no reason to out the check before the deadline. It'll only cause possible chaos and people can be dumb enough to do something stupid instead of lynching Sloosh. I don't know if it's wise to out the info even on the night phase, as if the cop is alive they can just out the check results in D4. If not, we can tell that info in thread, as me & you know about that. After this i share that information i have about X, Y and Z with W. I give them all the names too. After this happens the Sloosh - marv chat (i think? - marv, when did you talk with Sloosh?). Now who is most likely to be scum? | ||
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On July 24 2013 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Do see sk on the role list? I sure don't. That's where my whole "check" on ace came from. I see it as much more likely scum are trying to get marv "confirmed" as sloosh goes down. You are right. Also Oats is probably scum. | ||
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2. Kushm4sta - mostly because of voting patterns 4. layabout (possibly) - hasn't done anything but fishy stuff 5. Mr Wiggles (no idea) - what are you doing? 6. strongandbig - obviously 7. raynpelikoneet - pardon me! 8. Meapak_Ziphh (slight possibility of him being scum/SK over marv but i doubt it) 11. VayneAuthority - voting patterns 12. kholly - inclined to think so 13. Korynne - is making sense 17. Adam4167 - agreed, silent...too silent lately... 18. Koshi - inclined to think so 19. Oatsmaster - hasn't done anything to help finding mafia, also completely absent in PM's lately 21. Marvellosity (or meapak) - what you doing? inclined to think he is SK/scum over Meapak because of responses to the parity cop thing. | ||
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The person who told me about the cop check was not supposed to reveal their identity. They however did. When i told the other person about the check, the cop went "RAYN TOLD THEM ABOUT IT?????". They had no intention to question the person who told me about the check and was supposed to hide their identity. That's fucking fishy. They also wanted me to out the check in thread. I have no fucking idea why. Why not the first person who they did tell about it? What's the point in passing the information over and over again in case it comes to scum hands if you want to out it in thread? Note that the "cop" i am talking about might not be the actual cop but a proxy to them. | ||
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On July 25 2013 11:21 kushm4sta wrote: @rayne who did you tell about layabout being parity cop? I didn't tell anyone because i did not know he was the cop (although i assumed so). But i told Oats. Also Korynne and Koshi knew. | ||
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On July 25 2013 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Im guessing the layabout was a blue snipe or there is scum in the chain of PM people. yeah, you. | ||
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Also MZ looks way better than marv and we are not lynching him. Vivax was suspicious of marv. Wtf has SK been doing since N1, shooting same targets than mafia? marv has been very bad, hell he didn't want to lynch sloosh on D2 when it was obvious he was scum (i don't mean the end of the day, he should have figured it out earlier). MZ on the other hand was the first to call yamato out, was one of the first people to vote for sloosh in D1, and his reaction to the check was WAY more townie than marv's. marv is either SK or mafia, and we need to kill him asap. ##Vote: marvellosity | ||
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On July 25 2013 18:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok guys, 1 job. Read MZ's and Marv's filter. Vote for the scummiest one. Thats an interesting theory Korynne. Rayn has also stopped talking to me, less than 1 pm a day so its not like Im not responding to him and I dont understand how his read on me changed. Yeah, i have tried to contact you in irc many times. I also have not had anything useful to say, and when i have, i have PM'd you. Is it only my job to start discussions between us? Okay, go ahead and read marv/MZ filters. Especially marv's. Tell me what he has done besides pushed for kholly lynch "because Chezinu"? | ||
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Riggghhhhht. You want people to find the mole when you should be convincing us that MZ is scum/SK, AS YOU CAN BE SURE OF IT IF YOU ARE TOWN. But no.. | ||
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