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Pewpewpew, pewpew! *kaboom* | ||
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On July 25 2013 05:59 Korynne wrote: What kind of excuse is that? Wanna shoot MZ then to clear you two up? Or you just gunna make up some new excuse? How about you just give me a list of people you won't kill so we don't have to waste posts going back and forth. It's a fine excuse. You'll have to read the spoiler to find out more. + Show Spoiler + not srs. jeez. Anyway I'm going to stop posting as I'm sure I must be around my limit. I'm sure I'll be around tomorrow, because mafia have no reason to kill an SK who could shoot into them, amirite? | ||
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On July 25 2013 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Don't talk about a rolecop rofl. Right after the check information is out marv comes up with the sloosh chat. This implies scum know about the check. I am inclined to believe this person is Oats because i think Korynne is town. Also MZ looks way better than marv and we are not lynching him. Vivax was suspicious of marv. Wtf has SK been doing since N1, shooting same targets than mafia? marv has been very bad, hell he didn't want to lynch sloosh on D2 when it was obvious he was scum (i don't mean the end of the day, he should have figured it out earlier). MZ on the other hand was the first to call yamato out, was one of the first people to vote for sloosh in D1, and his reaction to the check was WAY more townie than marv's. marv is either SK or mafia, and we need to kill him asap. ##Vote: marvellosity This post made me vomit. Are you scum rayn? | ||
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Don't want to limp through the game just to be lynched later on really. I'd much rather be lynched today so I can stop clicking on this thread if that's the way it's gonna be. | ||
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On July 25 2013 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also look at marv's recent posts. "kush is right, find the mole and you'll find mafia".... Riggghhhhht. You want people to find the mole when you should be convincing us that MZ is scum/SK, AS YOU CAN BE SURE OF IT IF YOU ARE TOWN. But no.. Are you really that dumb and superficial? You don't think *I* would know what I "should" be ranting and raving about "if" I were town? Seriously? | ||
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On July 25 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is my thought process regarding marv and his actions today: [14:32] <Oatsmaster> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414884¤tpage=58#1160 [14:32] <Oatsmaster> so marv scum or town [14:33] <raynpelikoneet> i don't understand [14:33] <raynpelikoneet> why is he not trying to convince us MZ is not town? [14:33] <raynpelikoneet> why the fuck would you not do that if you are town? [14:36] <Oatsmaster> why the fuck would you not do that if you are scum? [14:41] <raynpelikoneet> to buy time [14:41] <raynpelikoneet> he is trying to get us to find the mole [14:41] <Oatsmaster> buy what time? [14:41] <raynpelikoneet> which we don't even know exists for sure [14:41] <Oatsmaster> oh [14:41] <Oatsmaster> like not lynch MZ [14:41] <raynpelikoneet> yeah [14:41] <raynpelikoneet> so that there is uncertainty [14:41] <raynpelikoneet> if we are looking for non-existent mole [14:42] <raynpelikoneet> it is possible laya was masoned with scum, say wiggles [14:42] <Oatsmaster> yeah [14:42] <raynpelikoneet> and people are trying to find the mole in you/me/Koshi/Korynne [14:42] <Oatsmaster> go and post that  The bolded is right. Buying time? Are you serious? Why does nothing anyone says make any sense anymore? The thing is, I don't think there is necessarily an SK. I guess I could see MZ being an SK, I'm still not getting the scumvibes off him, so I'm unsure about that. There exists the possibility that slOosh was actually telling the truth in a roundabout way and I was framed (also by scum), giving scum their check and layabout his check. It's also very possible from my perspective that some mafioso knew of layabout's plans and framed me for precisely that reason, knowing the cop would get a check, and setting up slOosh masoning me and telling me that scum "knew" that I'm SK. | ||
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On July 25 2013 23:59 strongandbig wrote: So here's my conclusion. I think it seems improbable that either of mz or Marv is actually scum. So I think we should lynch Marv for a couple reasons. (1) his play this game doesn't match either his scum or town play. Unless he's been way more active and involved in pms than he has here, it doesn't match his town play (which sometimes looks scummy but always looks leadery) or his scum play (which is quite active as well, and very ego-driven). Therefore, I think he is neither. (2) there's a possibility the scum do have a rolecop and that's why they contacted Marv, in which case they're giving us free information and it would be a shame not to use it. What is this crap? We're in a 20-post game and you expect my play to look the same as every other game when I post 100+ times per cycle? And I typed like a billion lines in irc with Vivax, how did you miss that? I've clearly been active and involved in PMs. Your whole post reeks of bullshit. | ||
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On July 26 2013 01:30 Koshi wrote: You 2 are so annoying. @SnB Every time you come here to defend yourself. Your shot vs Ace was pure bullshit, imagine you having your shot now and we could shoot MZ and lynch marv, that would have been epic. But fuck that shit, you shot Ace. I am not even going to react on the marv case... marv can better prove he is town by doing towny things or he is next if you flip red. marvellosity Are you ignoring my case against you? Or Vivax his case I must say. How come you were so wrong about FT? How come you were so wrong about Kholly? Why does Vivax respect your scum hunting so much? Why do you post 100 times per cycle in a no restriction game but can't you be bothered to put pressure on anybody this game? Why are you not dead? Why does it feel like you are confident to go with anybody in a lylo situation? Why can't you make a simple list like rayn did? Put suspects in red, town reads in green? You don't give a shit about this game, however, you are always reading this thread. Don't denie it because you are quick to reply on a lot of posts. Vivax didn't have a case on me, he just said to keep an eye on me. Which is a big step up from how he normally treats me - ref: Basterd where he tunnelled me all game, ref: LIX where he voted for me when I was mayor who just lynched mafia, ref: Personality 2 where he tunnelled me all game. "wary" is as townie as Vivax has ever been on me. Wasn't so wrong about FT, thought he was mafia for quite some time, never confident enough to vote him. Got Kholly wrong because all his reads were weird as shit and I'm not used to that. Because I've caught billions of mafia in my time Because it's no restriction, and I've semi-checked out of this game Not dead because I'm pretty lynchable this game apparently I'm an arrogant asshole (not had a single thought about lylo though) Lists are for shopping (I lie, actually I don't mind lists at all, just haven't made one) I did give a shit about this game, namely when Vivax was alive and I had someone to shoot the shit with. If you can genuinely read all the logs he posted and you think I didn't give a shit about this game, I can only assume you had your eyes closed. And yes, I compulsively follow threads. | ||
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On July 26 2013 03:55 Korynne wrote: I don't understand what you and Rayn are up to. I agree that SnB looks scummy! But you seem to have read the conversation wrong. We have a message from a flipped TOWN COP that Marv/MZ is different (the flipped scum just called Marv an SK). THAT IS TOTALLY 100% GUARANTEED UNLESS TOWN COP IS TROLLING US. You can't just stick to Vivax. He's dead. New things have happened. Everyone needs to adapt to new information. Yes SnB looks scummy but one of Marv/MZ is confirmed anti-town. AND if one of them is the SK that reduces night KP by 1!!! Pros of killing Marv/MZ: - One of them is CONFIRMED anti-town, you guys know what confirmed means right? >_< - The anti-town member could have a scum role, or be an SK (SnB is vanilla scum at best after the shot at Ace) There's such a thing as a framer you know. Jeez Louise. I had someone tell me they're a parity cop checked me and Firm on n1 and n3 and we returned same. How does that sound to ya? | ||
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I've framed a target correctly in a game larger than this on N2. Just sayin' like  | ||
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Killing me today would be utterly stupid so I'm not even contemplating it. How is that 'resigned'? It's 'assuming town aren't a complete bunch of fuckwits' - easy mistake to make, I know | ||
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In any case, s&b is a better lynch than MZ I think. | ||
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Why would I show remorse about being wrong? What's the point? "Sorry guys, I thought kholly was mafia, but he wasn't" - happy? I only look worse for Oats defending me if you're blinded by confirmation bias, which you are. Call my play horrible all you like, you're the one repeatedly attacking a townie at this stage. I can fabricate scumreads and reasoning if you like. I'm terribly good at that. How hard do you think it would have been for me to conclude in that vote-analysis post that Wiggles looked terrible and was mafia? Would that have made me look better? Want me to waffle on about how Wiggles has stayed aloof from the game, has failed to comment on thread goings-on? This is all true, but I find Wiggles pretty hard to read because he never seems particularly involved. I'd *love* to tell you that I was totally convinced though. Or how about MZ - the obvious conclusion from what I looked at and much of his early play is that he's mafia. A case on MZ is fucking easy to make but I haven't god-damn made it because I don't think I believe in it. Could I be wrong and MZ is mafia? Yes of course I could, but I'm not going to push a case I'm not totally sure I believe in. Cold logic suggests from the parity cop check that MZ must be mafia. So fucking simple for me to jump all over his ass, pull up posts where he's actively trolling town during the start of the game, so easy to bring up posts where he actively isn't giving a single fuck about the Day 1 lynch, so easy for me to point out how MZ didn't even MENTION slOosh on Day 1, but on Day 2 was suddenly very happy with a slOosh lynch. I'm just desperately crossing my fingers that MZ wouldn't call town a bunch of idiots repeatedly on Day 1 as mafia, because that seems icky. Maybe I'm wrong and he did, I don't know. Want me to go make faux cases so I look all active and caring? Would you be jumping all over my ass now if I'd shown fake-conviction on say Wiggles and MZ? This bears repeating - mafia *KNEW* they had a pardon handy, jumping on to slOosh on Day 2 was a very easy way to "look good" because it ends up being pardoned anyway. If you're looking at an uncertain marvellosity, you're looking at a town marvellosity, because non-town marvellosity has no problem saying anything about anyone and making it look good. I've played 11 (I think) games as mafia/3rd party and won 10 of them - it's really easy to look like you care when you don't care, you know. Or maybe I want to lynch the guy who randomly took a terrible shot on a townie, and then accuses a usually very-high-volume poster of "not playing like usual" as his only point of interest since shooting Ace in the whole game. | ||
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Oats could have claimed he checked me n2 if he wanted, the fact he said n3 only makes him look worse, not better. Stop flapping. | ||
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