• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:54
CEST 12:54
KST 19:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing CN community: Firefly accused of suspicious activities How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 35268 users

Roulette Mini Mafia

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Normal
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 27 2013 16:12 GMT
#27
/in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 31 2013 04:18 GMT
#93
/out (personal issues, sorry)
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 01 2013 04:43 GMT
#109
If it's Monday, I'll tentatively come back /in.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 04 2013 23:45 GMT
#291
Hallo hallo everyone.

I'm going to reread the thread and then say some stuff.

Stay tuned
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 04 2013 23:55 GMT
#292
Aaaaand apparently it's dinner time ... do not hold your bowels for me. I'll be back tonight to say stuff.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 05:07 GMT
#319
Ok, time for updates of thoughts before going to sleep.


Who I want to lynch: [UoN]Sentinel

I think his approach to Ace's claim post was skewed. Why bother pointing out that the plan is not as gamebreaking as it initially seemed? He questions the plan, but doesn't offer up why it is detrimental to agree to it, nor does he offer a better plan as an alternative. Seems more likely an approach scum would take rather than town.

He voting for WoS is weak.
1) WoS wants to lynch a lurker. Sentinel is a lurker so he doesn't like this. Nothing here that indicates WoS is scum.
2) WoS doesn't ask people if he is scummy, he asks a couple of players who recently played scum with him what their opinion of his play is.
3) It is a very uninvested vote. He doesn't express a desire to get WoS lynched (only provides explanation for the sake of himself, not to convince others to vote him), and neglects to talk about any other suspects.

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel



jaybrundage

With regards to jay, I don't see the issue.
On June 04 2013 09:29 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
On June 04 2013 09:14 jaybrundage wrote:
On June 04 2013 08:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
im all in on 31, spin the wheel m'boy.

I have drank heavily on the past night so I am taking a nap this day. Wake me up when the sun sets.

I have been drinking so i will not post for a while

+ Show Spoiler +
*pokes with stick*

pointless pressure



I'm just trollin' around with the theme, I didn't actually drink today nor yesterday. What is your concern jaybrundage?

If you say that you arent going to post, pressuring you for a contribution serves no purpose for a townie

And yet because of his post Vayne posted.
Given that layabout, the origin of the push, has been so detached about it is another reason why I'm not interested in this lynch.



s0lstice

I think solstice's case on jay was good effort, and understandable where he is coming from, even though I don't agree with it.
Probably because I've played with jay (Nomination I believe), and am more inclined to give him slack for self degradation (I treat it as a null). I've liked his activity and general thoughts so far, not sure why he is being discussed as lynch.



Vote Count Error
On June 05 2013 07:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
WaveOfShadow (3): Ace, WaveofShadow, [UoN]Sentinel

WoS is voted by Zephirdd not himself.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#351
Oats, Ace is around null level right now.

He voted WoS and sort of soft defended mkfuba, which town Ace could have done. There's stuff he hasn't done, but from what I know of Ace's recent play (I think he explains in Ego mafia), he takes backseat regardless of alignment. I think there are a couple other players who have red flags, which would make them better lynches for today. Here are what I think are red flags from the past two pages:

On June 05 2013 18:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 15:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 05 2013 15:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHY NOT FUCKING ACE GUYS.

SERIOUSLY.


because hes useful if he decides to try later, no point mislynching him when there's a good chance mafia will kill him for us if he's not scum.

Mafia wouldn't kill him just because he's a vet. There's actual townies to shoot. What the hell kind of reasoning is this.

This doesn't even make sense. Scum won't shoot Ace because there are townies to be shot?
Vayne's reasoning is pretty clear. Scum shoot good players -> Ace is good player -> if Ace is town -> scum shoots Ace.
Shutting vayne down but with no other purpose than to shut him down.

On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.

Scum could equally have a 100% correct assessment of playstyle. Poor reason to call someone town.


People please comment on [UoN]Sentinel.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 13:28 GMT
#352
Also agree with Zeph that the votes currently on WoS suck. I like Oats though, as he is surprisingly easy to understand.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 13:32 GMT
#353
prplhz when you can read into raynpelikoneet & [UoN]Sentinel and your thoughts.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#359
Hey JJD (if it's ok to call you that), could you look into [UoN]Sentinel and rayn?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 13:50 GMT
#360
Zeph to be fair that sentence was ambiguous for me (I guessed what you just explained).

The only thing you could call a problem with Oats' play is his preference to lynch Ace, which I would argue isn't an issue at all. Both town and scum can make bad cases, omgus etc.

Can we center votes and discussion around [UoN]Sentinel and raynpelikoneet?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 14:59 GMT
#380
On June 05 2013 22:32 slOosh wrote:
prplhz when you can read into raynpelikoneet & [UoN]Sentinel and your thoughts.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 15:45 GMT
#387
On June 06 2013 00:15 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 23:59 slOosh wrote:
On June 05 2013 22:32 slOosh wrote:
prplhz when you can read into raynpelikoneet & [UoN]Sentinel and your thoughts.


I don't think [UoN]Sentinel is overly scummy. I don't really think your case on him is strong. He does seem rather uninvested in the game but he did explain his WaveofShadow vote and he's prodding here and there. I don't think he's overly town but I don't think he's overly scum either. Would not lynch as it is.

raynpelikoneet is being little scummier.

+ Show Spoiler +

highlighted with bold
On June 05 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:10 Zephirdd wrote:
Phone posting. For the record i was town on mexican standoff. It was a game with only town and a survivor and many death millers

That's one of my points against stutters. He himself obviously did not even check the mexican standoff fully. And SK is more likely to play as town because they do not have teammates.

Other than, why the fuck would you make a meta case on someone who just said he is trying to change his "meta" because in last games of his he has been up for D1 lynch regardless of alignment?

Nothing prplhz has done this game is particularly scummy imo. If there is something i have missed, let me know Stutters.

I don't think this is valid at all, seems like a really weird defense of me.
On June 05 2013 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Prpl; you asked me about jay and wos. I need to hear more from him. I know from some games ive read that he is a possible lynchbait if town, but i don't like him using that as defence. Would lynch if he is not willing to do shit. About wos. I don't like his stance on lurkerlynches early on in the game. Why bring that up? I also don't like his stance on jay. How on earth does what Vivax says about jay being a lynchbait affect wos' opinion? Why does wos just take vivax at face value if he thinks jay is scummy? that is scummy.

##Unvote
##Vote: WoS


btw i think vayne is town. He has a weird playstyle but his defence on me is 100% correct. My activity is not alignment indicative.

I dont want to lynch stutters any more. I misread some stuff in his prpl case, and his response to my vote was a townie one. He did not get overly defensive.

I also think prpl is town.

Im gonna look more into other people tonigh. Ace, who do you want to lynch and why? Time to start doing stuff if you are town.

As you said, why didn't this make raynpelikoneet suspicious instead of just accepting it as "Holy fuck that's surprisingly good so he's probably town!".

His vote is also on WaveofShadow who is a bad lynch. Very lacklustre performance from raynpelikoneet so far.


How do you feel about VayneAuthority?

I don't feel like moving on prplhz, your answers are waffly. I never said Sentinel was overly scum, I just think out of the pool we have right now, he is one of the better choices, and I think your evaluation of him is too gracious. The fact that you find rayn a little scummier but choose to spoiler it is disconcerting.

Like, who the heck are you suspicious of? Clearly I find a problem with Sentinel but you want to bring up new suspects. Do you think vayne is scum?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 15:57 GMT
#392
Meh, it depends on how much you think diction matters. "I was wrong" vs "I change my mind" etc.
Don't think we should read too much into it.

Anyways, people start putting votes down. Early votes = clearer stances.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 22:54 GMT
#504
...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 22:55 GMT
#505
deadline is in like 6 minutes right?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 05 2013 22:58 GMT
#508
Oh we are so screwed ...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 06 2013 15:18 GMT
#596
On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.

On June 06 2013 20:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 19:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 06 2013 18:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
No.
Sent.
The point is, in both of your scenarios, rayn flips red.
There is no scenario where rayn flips green in your head.
Thats where you scumslipped.

I was certain by that point that he was red. Just a matter of voting for him or not.

um.
why do you care that you look bad when you 'know' he is red?

Oats 2 pro, plz accept wool!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 06 2013 15:20 GMT
#597
[UoN]Sentinel, could you start stating your case against Oats tonight before the NKs?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 14:58 GMT
#1919
Could we get that scum QT? It seems like you guys got lazy or something and just let rayn get lynched. Like, you just watched it happened without a fight. I'm so confused.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 22 2013 14:59 GMT
#1920
Oh yea, big thank you to Dandel Ion (and Artanis[Xp]?) for hosting this game, and playing around in the ObsQT! I look forward to the sequel!
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
10:00
StarCraft Evolution League #13
CranKy Ducklings119
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 267
Lowko228
ProTech76
Rex 37
EnDerr 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34910
Sea 6781
Jaedong 2736
Bisu 1439
Pusan 602
actioN 411
EffOrt 279
BeSt 273
Stork 255
Mini 249
[ Show more ]
Larva 201
ZerO 121
Light 111
Dewaltoss 104
Mong 103
Hyun 91
GoRush 53
ToSsGirL 50
Mind 45
Sharp 28
Movie 26
Backho 24
sSak 21
Sacsri 14
Dota 2
XcaliburYe592
BananaSlamJamma446
League of Legends
JimRising 455
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss905
x6flipin434
allub254
Other Games
singsing1368
crisheroes313
XaKoH 225
Mew2King224
Pyrionflax208
DeMusliM192
ZerO(Twitch)17
B2W.Neo1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream3935
Other Games
gamesdonequick615
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Rasowy 14
• Airneanach6
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2104
League of Legends
• Stunt531
Other Games
• WagamamaTV153
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
6m
WardiTV39
Rex37
PiGosaur Monday
13h 6m
GSL Code S
22h 36m
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
GSL Code S
1d 22h
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Cheesadelphia
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.