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Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 09 2013 11:51 GMT
#841
I don't get why LoneMeow is still quiet.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 13:07 GMT
#842
Tweek mason'd me, of course. I was the only one whose alignment he was 100% sure of.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 14:02 GMT
#843
This place is dead whenever I can be on. And makes 8 new pages while I'm at work.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 09 2013 14:16 GMT
#844
On June 09 2013 23:02 iVLosK! wrote:
This place is dead whenever I can be on. And makes 8 new pages while I'm at work.


Im hear but dont really have much to add at this point. But wanna enlighten us on your conversation?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 09 2013 14:17 GMT
#845
Ebwop

Here not hear
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 09 2013 14:17 GMT
#846
But am here to hear.
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fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 09 2013 14:30 GMT
#847
##Vote LoneMeow

Skanjab1 was a strange choice for NK.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 14:36 GMT
#848
We discussed our thoughts on scum reads, the conversations weren't very thorough because we both were busy for most of the night phase. I'll post any relevant quotes when I get back from work tonight.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 09 2013 14:38 GMT
#849
We also freestyled about boats and hoes, because that's what we do. So there's that.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 09 2013 14:46 GMT
#850
##VOTE: UMASI

Still think he is scum and he hasnt really changed my mind at this point.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 09 2013 14:49 GMT
#851
I am also ok lynching yavanna if she doesnt comeback and isnt modkilled.
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fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 09 2013 15:00 GMT
#852
On June 09 2013 23:49 Onegu wrote:
I am also ok lynching yavanna if she doesnt comeback and isnt modkilled.

What are your thoughts about LoneMeow?
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#853
On June 09 2013 13:05 Xzavier wrote:
well shit. we lynch mafia day1, they kill blue night1?

random question? does this mean that there is no SK? since only 1 person died?

why skanjab1?
He wasnt outspoken or a main discussion generator. Time to go read his filter

What did you learn from his filter?
StiMaDDict
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)313 Posts
June 09 2013 15:15 GMT
#854
I didn't find anything particularly out of place from Skanjab1 filter..
anyway, time to die mafia motherfucker..

##Vote: LoneMeow
동해 물과 백두산이 마르고 닳도록 하느님이 보우하사 우리나라 만세. 무궁화 삼천리 화려강산 대한 사람, 대한으로 길이 보전하세.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 09 2013 15:21 GMT
#855
LoneMeow (1): Umasi, StiMaDDict
Skanjab1s (0): iVLosK!, Gotard
iVLosK! (0): Xzavier, Umasi
Spicydinosaur (0): Skanjab1s
Firere345 (5): Spicydinosaur, Skanjab1s, fferyllt, Gotard, iVLosK!, Skanjab1s, Xzavier
Gotard (4): Skanjab1s, Xzavier, iVLosK!, Umasi, Firere345, LoneMeow, Xzavier
StimmAddict (0): iVLosK!
Umasi (1): Onegu

As we get more flips we should revisit the bandwagons and their composition.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 09 2013 15:27 GMT
#856
On June 10 2013 00:15 StiMaDDict wrote:
I didn't find anything particularly out of place from Skanjab1 filter..
anyway, time to die mafia motherfucker..

##Vote: LoneMeow

What would you expect to find out of place in a townie's filter?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 09 2013 15:51 GMT
#857
On June 10 2013 00:27 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 00:15 StiMaDDict wrote:
I didn't find anything particularly out of place from Skanjab1 filter..
anyway, time to die mafia motherfucker..

##Vote: LoneMeow

What would you expect to find out of place in a townie's filter?


Hopefully the reason he was killed that being said I dont think he posted enough for that. Looking at his votes maybe the only clues but that is a reach.
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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 09 2013 16:05 GMT
#858
Hello, and sorry for being away so much lately, busy times IRL...

Anyway, I want to revisit StiMaDDict's original case on me:

On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 14:59 Umasi wrote:
iVLosK, I think you are scum.


Why? Make a case if you have a good read.

I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:40 Firere345 wrote:
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:

I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.


Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction.


Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!?


First thing that stuck out to me was that in both cases he is eager for someone other than himself to make a case against iVLosK! while holding back himself. He, not exactly encouraged, but led Umasi to go on with his rant on iV (which caused much dilema later on..) but on the very next line said that he disagrees(?) to what Umasi's not existing case.. Also despite the fact his comment on iV's behavior sounds somewhat reasonable, he doesn't make any case or assumption; only going as far as to say that iV's attitude is neither indication of town or scum.


How exactly is asking for someone to explain how reasoning behind a scum claim scummy? At the time I asked for Umasi to present a case he seemed to be playing very emotionally instead of thinking logically and I hoped he would either present a logical case that could help me understand his reasoning for the claim or calm down and realize how weak his claim was.

On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
His second quote asks Firere345 whether he changed his opinion which appears odd as well. Forget the fact that I have no fucking clue what Firere345 is saying or why he is commenting on Umasi, but why is LoneMeow asking Firere345 if he still thinks iVLosK! is scum. I went through Firere345 filter and he never proposed anything like that before. Given it should have been much more reasonable for LoneMeow to ask Umasi or Xzavier such question not Firere345 because they were voting on iVLosK!.


The posts you quoted contain Firere345's scum read on iVLosK! which I was asking about, trying to both get a second opinion on my own read on iVLosK! and to see Firere345's reaction to get a better read on him, seeing how little he had posted at the time.

On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 15:31 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 15:28 Umasi wrote:
I'll operate under the assumption that you're town, because everyone else thinks so, and it seems like more will get done this way.


Do you still think he's scum though? If so, I'd like to see a short case explaining why, perhaps you can convince me?


Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though.


This is just a continuation of the earlier, Umasi still hadn't really presented a logically sound case and seemed to only be prepared to drop his attack on iVLosK! based on the "consensus" at the time, not because he had changed his own opinion.

On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote:
Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL.

On June 07 2013 10:14 fferyllt wrote:
On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 06 2013 14:59 Umasi wrote:
iVLosK, I think you are scum.


Why? Make a case if you have a good read.

I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative.


Tempted.

What is your read on iV?


Leaning slightly on town. Sure, he is somewhat abrasive but he was actively driving discussion. Definitely not a top lynch candidate for me right now.

On June 06 2013 22:40 Yavanna wrote:
In other news, I'm trying to discern atm about LoneMeow. He had some input on the lurker lynch issue but since he's just asked a couple questions without any real opinions of his own. Thoughts?


I was thinking of pushing you a bit after this, because when you posted this you hadn't stated any real opinions of your own besides sucking up to Xzavier, however your later posts are better so I'm okay with it for now.

On June 07 2013 15:14 fferyllt wrote:
There is a player who hasn't looked paranoid at all, though. And that in a newb sets off a few alarms.

I'd like to know if you think someone fits that description or if I'm making mountains from molehills.


This I don't like at all. Looks a lot like trying to fish for an opinion to sheep on when you don't state who you actually suspect, and that I find rather scummy.


I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate.


The question by fferylt isn't a direct question to me if you read the context, and it's just objectively scummy to fish for opinion without even naming the suspect like that. I'm not sure what you meant by "no concrete background to support his claim", as I didn't make a scum claim, I simply pointed out that fishing for opinion is scummy.

On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 19:05 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 07 2013 16:34 Xzavier wrote:
Lonemeow what do you think of gotard and my case against him?


Gotard's posts are extremely weird, jumping in and straight away pushing lynch on you who most seem to find the strongest town read at the moment. Even weirder that he's pushing his second best scum read instead of the best. On the other hand, this is such a suicidal move that it makes me wonder if scum would dare do something like that.

Your case on him seems pretty good, but I still worry that he might be just overeager townie since as said, the move seems too suicidal for scum to dare try. I'm fine with lyching him if he doesn't provide better input, though.

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote:
On June 07 2013 19:19 Onegu wrote:
Lonemeow what is your strongest scum read at this point? I would also ask yavanna the same thing.


It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so.

This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash.


Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all."

Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further make excuse on explain his claim after reading my post saying that Firere345 asked a stupid question about Jester and when he (LoneMeow) asked for his opinion on iVLosK! he never answered, etc.


Essentially you're saying that my case on Firere345 was weak (well, yes, it was, I even said that much myself later) and that my defense of Gotard was scummy - however as it turns out Firere345 was mafia and Gotard seems likely town by the vote distribution, so I'd say this only makes you look slightly suspicious.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
June 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#859
On June 10 2013 00:51 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 00:27 fferyllt wrote:
What would you expect to find out of place in a townie's filter?


Hopefully the reason he was killed that being said I dont think he posted enough for that. Looking at his votes maybe the only clues but that is a reach.


Perhaps the reason he was killed was exactly because there wasn't anything special in his posting history?
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 09 2013 16:16 GMT
#860
On June 10 2013 01:07 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 00:51 Onegu wrote:
On June 10 2013 00:27 fferyllt wrote:
What would you expect to find out of place in a townie's filter?


Hopefully the reason he was killed that being said I dont think he posted enough for that. Looking at his votes maybe the only clues but that is a reach.


Perhaps the reason he was killed was exactly because there wasn't anything special in his posting history?

This posits a subtle scum team.

Have you looked at his filter?
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