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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 06 2013 19:27 GMT
#501
Why wouldn't newbie scum read the rules equally carefully? A newbie town and a newbie scum have equal interest in the setup of the game, so using it to try to indicate if someone is mafia or town seems irrelevant.
Unless there is a reason I don't see that town would pay more attention to the OP than a scum!

I think commenting on how it seems too easy, and telling us to wait, is more interesting, because it feels like he's trying to be inclusive here, when really it was me talking to myself, getting jabbed by iV, and xzav being logical...
And I don't know why he felt like part of that group?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 06 2013 19:29 GMT
#502
Hell, I don't know why it's a group he'd want to be a part of.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 19:35 GMT
#503
On June 07 2013 04:27 Umasi wrote:
Why wouldn't newbie scum read the rules equally carefully? A newbie town and a newbie scum have equal interest in the setup of the game, so using it to try to indicate if someone is mafia or town seems irrelevant.
Unless there is a reason I don't see that town would pay more attention to the OP than a scum!

I think commenting on how it seems too easy, and telling us to wait, is more interesting, because it feels like he's trying to be inclusive here, when really it was me talking to myself, getting jabbed by iV, and xzav being logical...
And I don't know why he felt like part of that group?


They would, but as scum it could have been said to make it seem as though he is contributing to the discussion.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 06 2013 19:36 GMT
#504
I think that the jester question is null, I think that his telling us to be more careful is scummy.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#505
Just had a decent look at the filters. That filter link is nice as f#%! I wish we had one where I come from.

Anyways, there are 2 people who haven't even posted since the game started. tE (or whatever) and StimmAddict. Now, T has just one post in the whole thread, his "/in" post and that's it. Pretty clearly someone who just signed up and fucked off. Probably going to be modkilled. Pay no mind.

But the other one, StimmAddict is a little more interesting. Go read his filter. Super interested, super involved prior to the game starting. Posts about how excited he is in the day leading up to the game. Even adds a "Gl Hf" post mere hours before the game starts. But is completely silent now that roles have been sent out.

Just something interesting I found during my lunch break.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 06 2013 19:47 GMT
#506
I noticed the same thing and also noticed his location. I've played mafia with people from similar time zones and it's a challenge. Slack for that won't last much more than 12 more hours.
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 06 2013 20:24 GMT
#507
Maybe he's too excited to use his keyboard or hiding from the light like a scum?
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
June 06 2013 20:26 GMT
#508
Vote SlaveCount

LoneMeow (0): Umasi
Skanjab1s (1): iVLosK!
iVLosK! (0): Xzavier, Umasi
Spicydinosaur (0): Skanjab1s
Firere345 (2): Spicydinosaur, Skanjab1s

Firere345 is currently set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory. This is a plurality lynch.
The deadline is at [unparsable timestamp format], in [unparsable timestamp format]

If there's a mistake, let me know!
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 06 2013 20:30 GMT
#509
Gotard, what's the difference in contributions between you and those two? All I really understand from your first post is that you're new and feel inferior.
I'm new and feel inferior, but have tried to do what I can, even if it's bad!
So say what's on your mind!
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 06 2013 20:34 GMT
#510
Math dosn't lie I have like infinity times more posts.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 06 2013 20:37 GMT
#511
interesting
Yavanna
Profile Joined May 2013
United States36 Posts
June 06 2013 20:39 GMT
#512
Fferllyt

I read what you wrote on Umasi. There’s a few things I’d add after taking a closer look at his filter

On June 07 2013 02:13 fferyllt wrote:
His first several posts have an enthusiastic and confused newb feel. As iL mentioned (I'm not writing your name out any more because I'm lazy) his trajectory on and off his first vote was confusing. It looked like a random vote, and I don't understand why he decided to remove it so quickly unless maybe it was because nobody else was voting randomly...in which case, hmm. Maybe natural town herd movement. Maybe trying to fit in.

The early vote stuck in my mind too. It looked really self-conscious. If you are voting to raise discussion, why does it get removed as soon as someone mentions it? It looks like he had no goal at all with the early vote, as pretty much no positive discussion has been generated by it. The guides said look for both town and scum motivation behind postings, and I am having trouble seeing the town motivation behind a 5 second vote.

The rest of his votes too seem like he is playing to some agenda, not earnestly trying to lynch scummy people.

This quote too raised my eyebrows:
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:13 iVLosK! wrote:
Lynching lurkers isn't a strategy that I really like in a noobie game. What we'll find is that some people just signed up and fucked off, regardless of alignment. Or people who vastly underestimated the amount of time/effort they'd need to put in.

Having said that, I won't be nailed down and if I feel a lurker is scum I'll vote them in a second and you all will be like "Aww Vlosk said he doesn't like lynching lurkers in noob games!"


I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.

Pointing out the possibility of being blue doesn’t sit right with me. We are not blue-hunting. I’m worried that it’s on his mind and so easily popped out because he actually IS blue-hunting in the scum QT. What does everyone make of this?

There’s also a lot to be said for the benefit of the scum team in regards to getting into a shitfest. From the games I’ve read, it causes town to lose focus, and can be a tactic to misdirect town. It makes me nervous that he was so willing to dive in. He has since addressed it, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it cluttered the thread up at the time of the argument. Combined with the stuff you spoke about fferyl, and the stuff I pointed out, I’m very suspicious of Umasi.

If the day ended now, I’d be down with lynching him or Firere. I want to hear what both of them have to say to the accusations against them though, specifically the blue thing (Umasi)
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 06 2013 20:40 GMT
#513
If i had to vote now i would lynch you or Xzavier but a the same time it's way too risky to kill the most active (potential) allies.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 20:40 GMT
#514
Your math is really bad.
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 06 2013 20:40 GMT
#515
you = Umasi
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 06 2013 20:41 GMT
#516
How my math is bad?
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
June 06 2013 20:43 GMT
#517
Why Xzavier, Gotard?
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 06 2013 20:48 GMT
#518
On June 07 2013 05:39 Yavanna wrote:
Fferllyt

I read what you wrote on Umasi. There’s a few things I’d add after taking a closer look at his filter

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 02:13 fferyllt wrote:
His first several posts have an enthusiastic and confused newb feel. As iL mentioned (I'm not writing your name out any more because I'm lazy) his trajectory on and off his first vote was confusing. It looked like a random vote, and I don't understand why he decided to remove it so quickly unless maybe it was because nobody else was voting randomly...in which case, hmm. Maybe natural town herd movement. Maybe trying to fit in.

The early vote stuck in my mind too. It looked really self-conscious. If you are voting to raise discussion, why does it get removed as soon as someone mentions it? It looks like he had no goal at all with the early vote, as pretty much no positive discussion has been generated by it. The guides said look for both town and scum motivation behind postings, and I am having trouble seeing the town motivation behind a 5 second vote.

The rest of his votes too seem like he is playing to some agenda, not earnestly trying to lynch scummy people.

This quote too raised my eyebrows:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 12:33 Umasi wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:13 iVLosK! wrote:
Lynching lurkers isn't a strategy that I really like in a noobie game. What we'll find is that some people just signed up and fucked off, regardless of alignment. Or people who vastly underestimated the amount of time/effort they'd need to put in.

Having said that, I won't be nailed down and if I feel a lurker is scum I'll vote them in a second and you all will be like "Aww Vlosk said he doesn't like lynching lurkers in noob games!"


I don't like how you try to deflect any pressure that could come onto you, before it even comes onto you. There's no reason to feel that you're under suspicion at this point, and I think it points towards blue or scum. Or I'm reading into it to much.
At this point I'm leaning towards scum.

Pointing out the possibility of being blue doesn’t sit right with me. We are not blue-hunting. I’m worried that it’s on his mind and so easily popped out because he actually IS blue-hunting in the scum QT. What does everyone make of this?

There’s also a lot to be said for the benefit of the scum team in regards to getting into a shitfest. From the games I’ve read, it causes town to lose focus, and can be a tactic to misdirect town. It makes me nervous that he was so willing to dive in. He has since addressed it, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it cluttered the thread up at the time of the argument. Combined with the stuff you spoke about fferyl, and the stuff I pointed out, I’m very suspicious of Umasi.

If the day ended now, I’d be down with lynching him or Firere. I want to hear what both of them have to say to the accusations against them though, specifically the blue thing (Umasi)


I will address the blue part at the end.
I agree with you, that scum would benefit from a shitfest, which is what annoyed me the entire time. It felt like he was taking a standoffish /come at me stance, and I felt this could be scum motivated, to start a shitfest, and he was confident he would come out of it on top, so I pursued the avenue of "this guy probably is scum", because he wants me to start a shitfest.
Which I unfortunately did, but i don't think it actually messed up the thread too much, I think it made it possible for the thread to get GOING, since before that, it was just talk about lynching lurkers, which I didn't see the point in.
The entire blue thing was me addressing all possibilities, and I was led to think he was scummy based on his responses, but I wouldn't have discounted the possibility of him being blue from that line, because it's equally telling either way. But I'm not going to straight up say "you are blue, PUNK" because that's STUPID, that doesn't generate discussion, that just turns people around to say ".....so?" and then he doesn't claim because that'd be an awful idea and we're nowhere.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
June 06 2013 20:49 GMT
#519
I will quote myself
On June 07 2013 02:25 Gotard wrote:
Xzavier seemed to be a scum (after following Umasi's accusations) but then he had some awesome pro-town posts.

I am more confused than sure of anything (and I think I should be in game like this). This is like someone calls a random guy scum and then you have other guy saying "YEAH! BURN HIM!" for no good reason.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 06 2013 20:50 GMT
#520
also, his math doesn't matter.
Why xzav? You said you liked his logic, didn't you? And he's not particularly scummy, at least not in my opinion
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
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