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iamperfection
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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On May 19 2013 23:37 iamperfection wrote: Want to kill Sputnik Marv? well, my vote *is* currently on him dear. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On May 19 2013 20:18 goodkarma wrote: Spicydinosaur: What stands out most to me about spicy is that he has had a bit to say but he's had literally ZERO scumreads most of the game. He's pretty wishy-washy in general. One post that demonstrated this well he literally started (in discussing Solstice) by saying “I think this guy is very scummy.” And ends the post saying “I don’t think he’s scum.” Further, in his vote post he somehow manages to mix up the name of who he’s voting for. For sure this could be an honest mistake, but it definitely doesn’t demonstrate he’s very invested in the game. When you think someone’s scum, it’s generally burning in your mind as you’re writing up your post. That he could just mix things up, say “oops sorry” to the thread, and then get away with it is disturbing to me. This is the kind of guy you shouldn't let fly under the radar. In the newbie game that just finished that I observed, he had opinions on other players he thought were scummy. That just isn’t the case here. He’s like “this guy looks kinda bad,” or “this guy is a shitty townie,” but when it comes to who’s actually scum he kinda doesn’t have much to say until his botched up vote post. I'm wondering if this is an attempted scum vote redirect on me at the last minute to save someone else. Your entire post is hinged on me have 0 scum reads that you are so happy to point out a number of times. This is a complete flat out lie, and given my small filter, a deliberate misreading of me. On May 19 2013 11:19 Spicydinosaur wrote: I agree that Sputnik has posted absolutely nothing but garbage but I feel he should be shot by a vig and not lynched d1. I highly doubt his play is some grand scum plan that his scum buddies are comfortable with. Everyone could get behind a sputnik lynch because he's a shitty player. So if everyone agrees to lynch sputnik, what does that get us? More likely than not he'll show up as town, but everyone will have a solid defense for voting him. This is a scum read on sputnik that you completely ignore. Then in the same post I vote for jarjar because of his excuses. On May 19 2013 11:19 Spicydinosaur wrote: Jarjar on the other hand has posted some content, though very little. He's been the subject of attack a number of times but he has yet defended himself properly. Whether his in-activeness is due to RL or deliberate scum, I don't like it. I get the feeling he tried coasting D1 and got caught and really doesn't know what to do. His posts contain a lot of excuses which is scummy. I'm putting my vote on him. GK's reading of me is completely false and his deliberate avoidance of my scum reads points to him being scum. | ||
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marvellosity
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iamperfection
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On May 19 2013 23:41 marvellosity wrote: Is that a "I want to kill him today" scumread, or an "I think he's scum, but i'm not certain yet" scumread? assuming this was directed towards me. I'm more certain of jarjar at this point. My gut feeling was that his post just felt scummy. going to go through his filter now. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 19 2013 23:41 iamperfection wrote: You don't think scum mason is likely? What do you think would be the likely amount of blues in a 16 man and do you think there could be two town masons? I don't think I've ever seen a scum mason in a game classed as a normal mini? Granted this is a closed setup, so it's certainly possible, but I don't think I've ever seen it. If I'm understanding BH's role, he's a mason recruiter... so having 2 mason recruiters would seem pretty odd. Further, mason recruiter isn't actually that common of a role either in normal minis... so, mm. Number of blues in a 16 man? I'm assuming a 12-4 or an 11-4-1 distribution, and it kinda depends on the strength of the mafia roles, but I'd guess at 4 blues perhaps, depending on their strength. You want to kill BH, don't you? | ||
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iamperfection
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marvellosity
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On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote: We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. what makes you favour sputnik over JJD so much? Just the fact he's been even more useless? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote: We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass. Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
If so then I'm in favor of a jjd lynch. | ||
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iamperfection
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iamperfection
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On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote: Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum | ||
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iamperfection
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote: Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote: OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN. I don't get why you are pushing this so hard. Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too? It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh? On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote: Also you guys use meta way to much | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
GK first votes for stutters then unvotes because of explanation. He then votes for grush, then unvotes him because of 'consolidation'. On May 19 2013 02:15 goodkarma wrote: Since it looks like no one here is going to vote for Grush now that he said Starsenses several more times, I'll be changing my vote. I still feel he's scummy and would like to lynch him, but consolidation is important. Also, there's always the chance he will be vigi shot. Among scummy Grush and lurkers Sputnik and JarJar, one should likely be vigi shot. ##Unvote ##Vote: WaveofShadow On May 19 2013 02:58 goodkarma wrote: As for consolidation, yes it's a bit early. But given the last few games I've obs'ed / been in have had profound problems with this, I figured I'd rather push for it sooner than later. I feel Wave is a good lynch for today, so I have no issue switching my vote to him. He then switches votes to jarjar for his lurkiness. He then writes a whole big post on how BH is scum but unvotes when BH claims. Finally he switches to me. In his opinions of everyone post, he wrote how I was wishy washy and yet he did the exact same thing when he wrote about WoS. On May 19 2013 20:18 goodkarma wrote: WaveofShadow: I feel less good about lynching him right now. Looking through his filter, I see that he has an active involvement in the game. I'm not a fan of his playstyle, and the certainty of his statements about Grush and Sputnik were definitely scummy, but the way his reads evolve and the way he seems to actually care about what's going on in the thread indicates to me he's town (slight townread). He also said in that post that he still thought jarjar was scummy. So why change to me? I already deconstructed his argument in my previous post on the matter but I feel I should a few thoughts. GK put a good emphasis on consolidation and it feels odd to throw a vote on me as I had a town read from a few players. What I think is more striking is the hypocrisy in his post about wishy washy behavior which he himself did with Wos above. I wonder if he will stick with his vote on me or will he fold like he did on grush when he realized no one would support him on that vote. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote: Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too? It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh? OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum. Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment. | ||
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