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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
May 19 2013 15:54 GMT
#1101
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum


OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN.

I don't get why you are pushing this so hard.

Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too?

It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh?

On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Also you guys use meta way to much


OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.

Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment.

Maybe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 15:58 GMT
#1102
Also has WoS just fucked off now that his wagon has fallen apart?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 19 2013 16:05 GMT
#1103
He's probably off proving he's town to the children of Kenya
A backwards poet writes inverse.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 19 2013 16:09 GMT
#1104
On May 19 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
Looking at JJD's filter, I'm finding it pretty hard to understand why he even voted for Blazing. What's the rationale?

Here's where I point out that BH changed his mind about vayne for basically no reason @ all. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=29#562

He jumped on vayne for his (admittedly terrible) views on how to play day 1. But what made him change his mind? And it wasn't just "Oh hmm, maybe he isn't scum". He totally 180'd and started telling people they should stop voting for vayne.

Go back and read from the time BH voted vayne to when he unvoted:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=14#267

There was nothing vayne said in his later posts that are much different in his earlier posts when BH had him pegged as scum. WHat I think happened is that BH realized how scummy it was to jump on Vayne for his terrible play. Like, check out this post from yamato:
On May 18 2013 06:11 yamato77 wrote:
Now, the rest of you jumping at the chance to vote this guy are worrying me. When have you ever seen a scum make a play like this?
The next post BH made was his unvote.

And rereading his filter, Look @ some of his reasons for his votes. He votes for iamp for flaming. He votes you for calling him out on why that's a terrible reasoning. Even saying: "yeah marv definitely scum". Then he votes for stutters pointing out how stutters said he could jump on Vayne lynch. Uh, isn't that exactly what he did?

Seems pretty clear to me that he just keeps throwing shit around hoping something sticks and he doesn't really care who gets lynched.






DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 16:15 GMT
#1105
On May 20 2013 01:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
Looking at JJD's filter, I'm finding it pretty hard to understand why he even voted for Blazing. What's the rationale?

Here's where I point out that BH changed his mind about vayne for basically no reason @ all. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=29#562

He jumped on vayne for his (admittedly terrible) views on how to play day 1. But what made him change his mind? And it wasn't just "Oh hmm, maybe he isn't scum". He totally 180'd and started telling people they should stop voting for vayne.

Go back and read from the time BH voted vayne to when he unvoted:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&currentpage=14#267

There was nothing vayne said in his later posts that are much different in his earlier posts when BH had him pegged as scum. WHat I think happened is that BH realized how scummy it was to jump on Vayne for his terrible play. Like, check out this post from yamato:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 06:11 yamato77 wrote:
Now, the rest of you jumping at the chance to vote this guy are worrying me. When have you ever seen a scum make a play like this?
The next post BH made was his unvote.

And rereading his filter, Look @ some of his reasons for his votes. He votes for iamp for flaming. He votes you for calling him out on why that's a terrible reasoning. Even saying: "yeah marv definitely scum". Then he votes for stutters pointing out how stutters said he could jump on Vayne lynch. Uh, isn't that exactly what he did?

Seems pretty clear to me that he just keeps throwing shit around hoping something sticks and he doesn't really care who gets lynched.








Seems pretty clear to me that you are scum and as such are far too attached to your wagon.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 19 2013 16:22 GMT
#1106
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.
Stop Lying. I'm KNOWN to lurk on the weekends. The last game I played started on the weekend. I was town and got voted off day 1 because of lurking. My activity is always gonna be alot better during the week once I'm sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 16:25 GMT
#1107
On May 20 2013 01:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.
Stop Lying. I'm KNOWN to lurk on the weekends. The last game I played started on the weekend. I was town and got voted off day 1 because of lurking. My activity is always gonna be alot better during the week once I'm sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours.


I coached your scum game. Marv hosted it. I think we know what we are talking about. any quit with the excuses and make a case on someone that isn't blazinghand.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 19 2013 16:32 GMT
#1108
On May 20 2013 01:25 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 01:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.
Stop Lying. I'm KNOWN to lurk on the weekends. The last game I played started on the weekend. I was town and got voted off day 1 because of lurking. My activity is always gonna be alot better during the week once I'm sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours.


I coached your scum game. Marv hosted it. I think we know what we are talking about. any quit with the excuses and make a case on someone that isn't blazinghand.
I like how you turn it around and say I'm making excuses and not calling you out for lying.

You said that I'm known to not lurk as town. I pointed out how my last game I was voted out as town for lurking. So no, you don't know what you're talking about. Or you're purposefully misrepresenting the facts.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 16:33 GMT
#1109
On May 20 2013 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 01:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 20 2013 01:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.
Stop Lying. I'm KNOWN to lurk on the weekends. The last game I played started on the weekend. I was town and got voted off day 1 because of lurking. My activity is always gonna be alot better during the week once I'm sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours.


I coached your scum game. Marv hosted it. I think we know what we are talking about. any quit with the excuses and make a case on someone that isn't blazinghand.
I like how you turn it around and say I'm making excuses and not calling you out for lying.

You said that I'm known to not lurk as town. I pointed out how my last game I was voted out as town for lurking. So no, you don't know what you're talking about. Or you're purposefully misrepresenting the facts.

marv said you played a town game in which you were active. I believe marv. MY only PERSONAL knowledge of your games is your one scum game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#1110
On May 20 2013 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 01:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 20 2013 01:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.
Stop Lying. I'm KNOWN to lurk on the weekends. The last game I played started on the weekend. I was town and got voted off day 1 because of lurking. My activity is always gonna be alot better during the week once I'm sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours.


I coached your scum game. Marv hosted it. I think we know what we are talking about. any quit with the excuses and make a case on someone that isn't blazinghand.
I like how you turn it around and say I'm making excuses and not calling you out for lying.

You said that I'm known to not lurk as town. I pointed out how my last game I was voted out as town for lurking. So no, you don't know what you're talking about. Or you're purposefully misrepresenting the facts.


So what do you make of BH's claim?

Who do you want to kill today if not BH?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 16:37 GMT
#1111
On May 20 2013 00:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Also has WoS just fucked off now that his wagon has fallen apart?

It's called fucking sleeping. Would you like a breakdown of my sleep schedule?
Go to bed at 9PM EST because I'm fucking exhausted, wake up at 2AM to feed my 5 month old child, fuck around a bit, read threads, post a little, go to bed, wake up now.
Better?
I'm almost done so keep your tits firmly attached.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 16:39 GMT
#1112
On May 20 2013 01:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Also has WoS just fucked off now that his wagon has fallen apart?

It's called fucking sleeping. Would you like a breakdown of my sleep schedule?
Go to bed at 9PM EST because I'm fucking exhausted, wake up at 2AM to feed my 5 month old child, fuck around a bit, read threads, post a little, go to bed, wake up now.
Better?
I'm almost done so keep your tits firmly attached.


LOL its your tits i'm worried about.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 19 2013 16:44 GMT
#1113
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.

In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.

In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.

I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1114
Touché, sir.
Alright so JJD right now, huh? Also I remember thinking something Spicydinosaur yesterday did was dumb but I gotta look back.
DP as far as JJD goes, I watched his newbie games but they kinda mesh together for me. I'm basing his scumminess on his seeming convenient lurking this game, but if you want to meta read him wouldn't it be a good idea to go back and have a look at his other games? My meta reads are usually shit so I'm not going to bother. Again vote staying on GK for now but I can consolidate later on to JJD/sputnik/who the fuck ever if necessary. I'm fine to let BH live another day as well to prove himself as a scum mason does seem pretty unlikely, yeah. (though I suppose possible?)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1115
On May 19 2013 18:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I dont want to lynch him because I hate lynching day one, accidentally bringing out a PR role is literally such a bad start that it can be almost impossible to recover from if its a strong role. Also take into account simple probability, whats the chances of us finding scum based on no real evidence? 25%. I would never take those chances would you?

One thing I thought of just a moment ago:

How does Vayne know the ration of town:scum? We are not told in the OP. Scumslip?


let me address your concern right here.

Carnival cruise mafia = 21 players 5 mafia.

My newbie game 12 players 3 mafia.

25% is the standard amount.
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
May 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1116
HAHA I also just looked at the voting thread and sputnik's 'random vote' was on me without even saying so.
I SO wanna lynch him now.
Can we do it?
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaase?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 16:48 GMT
#1117
On May 20 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.

In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.

In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.

I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect.


it was purely activity based, and he was vig shot in that game not modkilled.

JJD has done nothing also. If JJD does something I am fine with switching.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 19 2013 16:49 GMT
#1118
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 19 2013 16:52 GMT
#1119
On May 20 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything.


OK there are two useless players.

Player 1 I expect nothing from

Player 2 I expect something from

Until player 2 meets my expectations I want to lynch him over player 1.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 19 2013 16:53 GMT
#1120
On May 20 2013 01:34 marvellosity wrote:
So what do you make of BH's claim?

Who do you want to kill today if not BH?
Obviously I think he's lying, otherwise I wouldn't still be voting vor him. He claimed after everyone started voting him to try and save himself. I'd assume that's a standard scum play.

If I had to choose for someone else to be lynched, I'd pick grush. Here's a slight case I posted against him: + Show Spoiler +
On May 18 2013 21:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So, in case I'm missing anything: this STARSENSES thing: I get that it's something grush usually says and didn't this game. Is there more to it than that or is that about it? I'd think that'd be a pretty dumb scum mistake if that's all it is. Though he'd obviously know all that so I don't think I'd read anything into it.

HOWEVER, looking @ his filter, I'm trying to see if there's anything that looks townie about him. First he tells sputnik that he's playing textbook scum but when I ask about it he says he sounds noob town. The only other insight he offered was jumping on vayne.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 04:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On May 18 2013 04:28 grush57 wrote:
damnit sputnik you're playing textbook scum

You're saying that as if you're upset about it. Are you actually reading him as scum right now?

The reason I questioned him here is it just sounds like he knows sputnik is town and playing bad.

Not quite as sure about him as I am BH, but he's my second choice.
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