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Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 18 2013 01:10 GMT
#501
On May 18 2013 09:55 Dandel Ion wrote:

why did you feel that?


The two of you altered between insults and analyzing play from previous games. I didn't know the meta history between the two so I had nothing to say. I don't find much use for meta that I'm not familiar with so I tend to see it as not important in analysis. I've only had a game with jarjar and vayne so my use of meta is limited. I've already talked about vayne and jarjar hasnt posted enough in this game to really warrant a strong look.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 18 2013 01:21 GMT
#502
I work at a pizza place and its Friday night so this will be brief and I'll pop in when i can(slow/smoke breaks). Figured I'd address this though.

On May 18 2013 06:47 goodkarma wrote:
I feel that Stutters's play so far has been scummy. First, he completely contradicts himself about his thoughts on meta:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.

getting my share on, don't hate


Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta?

Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now?


So he doesn't feel meta's important here.

But:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:19 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:06 s0Lstice wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:04 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:02 s0Lstice wrote:
stutters, you got any scum games you can quickly point me to save me some time?


OOHHH Let me.

As town, He lurks but sometimes says useful things. As scum, He lurks.


Ohhh but not this time, according to him. Stutters you are forbidden to lurk.


Not the first, nor the last time that phrase will be heard in this forum.

Excellent summary of my town play. That fabled scum game is still waiting to happen though.


When it comes to excusing his lurky play, it matters.

Also, I found this to be scummy:

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 06:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Right now I could get behind a Vayne lynch. vayne how many games have you played (on TL and in general if you've played on other sites)?


In other words, he's ready to sheep onto a Vayne lynch bandwaggon if it gains momentum. But he doesn't want to draw atttention to himself by putting down a vote.

#Vote: Stutters

I look forward to Stutters's response. If it is to be believed he's sometimes useful as town, then that's another scumtell as he's been nothing but useless thus far.




First part: Meta is useless early on d1 (especially when there is no scum play to contrast it).
My point was his intention to tie together the "hey check out my meta and I'm town btw so look for this" and how i felt there were devious intentions behind it.

Second part: It was intended for two reasons. A) He had asked for a scum game of mine (which he wouldn't know I don't have and it was a way to correct DPs joke(I'm assuming it was at least).

B) the "fabled" scum game is a direct reference to either lxi or the one before where someone posted something along the lines of "is this finally his fabled scum debut" while also making some banter with DP.

Third part: first, I'd hardly consider bringing up one of the first few discussion points hours into d1 useless. Second I don't throw around my vote lightly. I expressed an interest in lynching Vayne for being unhelpful but because I'm on my phone voting is reserved for serious shit because it's a hassle. Of course I'm not set in my d1 lynch choice hours into d1. The right now part of that quote was based off of his play to that point.

Sorry that took 3 hours to type due to being busy, I'll try to catch up and throw some thoughts, but no promises before like midnight est.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 01:22 GMT
#503
whoa whoa guys, just because I didn't claim starsenses doesn't mean I'm scum. While it will always be true that when I claim starsenses I will be town, I don't want it to be a 100% meta thing so I'm screwed when i get mafia. I am just gonna claim it when necessary or when I need to to survive from now on, so I don't get botched as scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 01:48 GMT
#504
On May 18 2013 10:22 grush57 wrote:
whoa whoa guys, just because I didn't claim starsenses doesn't mean I'm scum. While it will always be true that when I claim starsenses I will be town, I don't want it to be a 100% meta thing so I'm screwed when i get mafia. I am just gonna claim it when necessary or when I need to to survive from now on, so I don't get botched as scum.

do it or we lynch you

you have no option
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:04 GMT
#505
:"(
don't do this to me bro
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 02:08 GMT
#506
On May 18 2013 11:04 grush57 wrote:
:"(
don't do this to me bro

you leave us no choice you basically confirmed in this thread your still going to use it when your town.

I want to know if your town or not your shit meta plans dont intrest me in the slightest because they only help yourself and not me winning.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:10 GMT
#507
I said if I don't claim doesn't make me scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:10 GMT
#508
OR WE COULD ACTUALLY YA KNOW DO STUFF
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 02:11 GMT
#509
On May 18 2013 11:10 grush57 wrote:
I said if I don't claim doesn't make me scum.

We are going to lynch you today if you don't claim it. This isn't a debate.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#510
well maybe I'll get lynched as town to make a point.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#511
Do you require more incentive grush?

Everyone put your vote on grush.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#512
DO IT
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#513
On May 18 2013 11:14 grush57 wrote:
well maybe I'll get lynched as town to make a point.

well that wouldnt be playing to your win cond now would it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#514
last minute I'll claim and then I'll be #1 town play of 2013
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 02:18 GMT
#515
whatever grush i don't have a particular interest in your little games maybe after this game you will hopefully drop this starsense nonsense all together and simply try to play better.

The simple fact is that in this game you are going to get lynched if you dont claim it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:20 GMT
#516
yea that's what I'm trying to do by not claiming it this game.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
May 18 2013 02:21 GMT
#517
Regarding Stutters:

I'm satisfied with your explanation, Stutters, and will look closely at your promised analysis (please don't promise and not deliver like you did in our newbie game ).


Regarding Grush
As for Grush, I was of the opinion lynching someone because they don't say "starsenses" is pretty stupid. But then grush says:

On May 18 2013 10:22 grush57 wrote:
whoa whoa guys, just because I didn't claim starsenses doesn't mean I'm scum. While it will always be true that when I claim starsenses I will be town, I don't want it to be a 100% meta thing so I'm screwed when i get mafia. I am just gonna claim it when necessary or when I need to to survive from now on, so I don't get botched as scum.


So in other words, you will always be town when you say starsenses. And you haven't said starsenses this game. Further, you say you will try to counter you own meta from now on, meaning you weren't starting to as of this game...

All in all, this looks like a scumclaim. Further, his Vayne vote was an easy jump on a bandwagon I'd expect from scum. And the majority of his content after seems to be some kind of worthless trolly defense.

##Unvote: Stutters
##Vote: grush57
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
May 18 2013 02:21 GMT
#518
and as a policy if you dont claim at least an hour before the deadline i think you should be lynched anyways.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:22 GMT
#519
gaiz only scum try to lynch me
STARSENSES
herp derp
##Vote: goodkarma
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 18 2013 02:22 GMT
#520
its funny how if I say STARSENSES i'm town
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
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