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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 18:51 GMT
#236
well, it looks like he actually stepped out. what's new with you grush?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#238
not bad! I'm playing some dota doing the usual stuff. is it saturday in korea
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 19:14 GMT
#241
oh, just no school? righteous
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:07 GMT
#252
just to be totally clear, Marv's so-called scum read on me is crap. Hus substantiating evidence is non evidence and he would never try to pull something like this as town. I am a generally abrasive player and his choice to vote me because of a few highly typical posts is based mostly on the fact that he knows I am in three n games and hosting one. he thinks u won't be able to defend myself or see through him.

he is wrong.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:33 GMT
#257
vayne u r wrong son wrong itnia rididickkuois
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:35 GMT
#258
info comes from town taking stances on things that matter ie voting and scum trying and failing to imitate
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:50 GMT
#267
On May 18 2013 05:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 05:35 Blazinghand wrote:
info comes from town taking stances on things that matter ie voting and scum trying and failing to imitate


What info do we get based on gut feelings? oh thats right astrology readings. I will be sticking to my game of logic and not letting emotions get the best of me. If somebody scumslips day 1 I will be watching intently, but besides that im not gonna bandwagon some poor sap just because a "vet" deems him scum


##unvote
##vote VayneAuthority
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:52 GMT
#269
he's certainly found a very creative way of opting out of the discourse, but I don't buy it at all. VA scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:57 GMT
#272
If 1 is "barely lynchworthy" and 10 is "mod has stated he is scum in thread" I'd put him at about a 6. I'm highly willing to lynch Vayne because he's trying really hard not to do anything, to opt out of the town discourse. It's not that his suggestion to no-lynch is bad per se (though it is) it's his idea that this is a cart blanche to give no reads and to play like he is.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 20:59 GMT
#275
On May 18 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On May 18 2013 05:57 Blazinghand wrote:
If 1 is "barely lynchworthy" and 10 is "mod has stated he is scum in thread" I'd put him at about a 6. I'm highly willing to lynch Vayne because he's trying really hard not to do anything, to opt out of the town discourse. It's not that his suggestion to no-lynch is bad per se (though it is) it's his idea that this is a cart blanche to give no reads and to play like he is.


what do you suggest I do then oh great and mighty vet l0l? There's no fucking information to go off of.


yeah lynch this guy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 21:01 GMT
#277
if the number is anything other than 0 lynch him. if it's 0 he's lying lynch him anyways
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#328
On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here.


I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious.


whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap?


I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts.

this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo)

hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so.


I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched.


god is that really your idea of how town plays optimally

:|

##unvote
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 21:57 GMT
#330
So, new rule: Vayne is a VI. Ignore him, check him if you are a DT or vig him if you are a vigi, policy lynch him before lylo if he's still alive. There's a possibility he also rolled scum but judging by his last game and this one there's no real way to tell. Not a worthwhile D1 lynch.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:16 GMT
#339
On May 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I dont want to lynch him because I hate lynching day one, accidentally bringing out a PR role is literally such a bad start that it can be almost impossible to recover from if its a strong role. Also take into account simple probability, whats the chances of us finding scum based on no real evidence? 25%. I would never take those chances would you?


see how could you possibly lynch a guy who legitimately thinks this is an ok post to make? There's no heuristic that could possibly distinguish scum VA from town VA. everyone should unvote this guy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:20 GMT
#341
On May 18 2013 07:19 marvellosity wrote:
My thoughts on what you've written;

points 1 and 2 don't hold up. especially because lurking is a bad thing for maifa, and encouraging anyone to post can be pretty town motivated.

point 3 could be valid though. the vote on stutters looks pretty weak. I can't see any good reason for s0lstice to want to kill stutters, it all looks a little contrived.

Not sure what to make of it all, I don't get massively strong feelings about any of it either way.


Yeah point 1 and 2 are grbage

fwiw a bad vote isn't the same as a scum vote, it's about motivation, reasning, thought process
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:23 GMT
#345
On May 18 2013 07:22 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 18 2013 07:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On May 18 2013 07:20 marvellosity wrote:
On May 18 2013 07:16 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I dont want to lynch him because I hate lynching day one, accidentally bringing out a PR role is literally such a bad start that it can be almost impossible to recover from if its a strong role. Also take into account simple probability, whats the chances of us finding scum based on no real evidence? 25%. I would never take those chances would you?


see how could you possibly lynch a guy who legitimately thinks this is an ok post to make? There's no heuristic that could possibly distinguish scum VA from town VA. everyone should unvote this guy


it's not really worth talking about, but he doesn't realise that on TL we're skilled enough to find mafia day 1 fairly regularly :p


its more the fact that I come from playing on a site where EVERY DAY is mylo until its lylo.


then you play on a stupid site. because that means one mislynch means town loses, which is extraordinarily dumb.


just like VA!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#347
ok VA I get that if we're at MYLO you would want to no-lynch, but bear with me for a moment here and maybe I can bring us all together to agree on something. Currently, we are not at MYLO. This is a true statement. We are not at MYLO. Right now is not MYLO. Therefore, no-lynching is not the optimal move. Does that make sense?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:25 GMT
#348
EBWOP: We are not at MYLO
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:29 GMT
#351
On May 18 2013 07:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 07:25 Blazinghand wrote:
ok VA I get that if we're at MYLO you would want to no-lynch, but bear with me for a moment here and maybe I can bring us all together to agree on something. Currently, we are not at MYLO. This is a true statement. We are not at MYLO. Right now is not MYLO. Therefore, no-lynching is not the optimal move. Does that make sense?


Yes but my counterpoint is why get to mylo/lylo faster when we can always afford extra information? unless you are aware that prome usually shorthands the town of strong PR roles or likes to use 3rd parties or something.


I see waht you're saying, but still disagree. Perhaps an example would suffice: Let's say that there's 4 VTs and 1 scum, who has 1 KP. Instead of lynching once and then being at LYLO (A), we could no-lynch twice and be at LYLO (B). In scenario A, all the VTs, and also the scum player, argue about who to lynch and the scum player is forced to make reads and take positions. He has to fake townreads and scumreads. He has to get involved. Even if a town player is lynched, you go into LYLO with a lot of staked out positions, reads, players, etc based on how the flip happened. In scenario B, both of the flips are determined by scum rather than town, so first off there's no chance of hitting scum with the first flip, and secondly, with no town-controlled flip to argue about, scum is not forced to stake out meaningful positions about scumreads and townreads. When there are multiple scum alive this is even more of a difference, since scum will be able to give up associative tells.

That's why it's generlaly considered to be a successful strat to lynch every day except specifically at MYLO in TL games.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
May 17 2013 22:30 GMT
#352
On May 18 2013 07:27 marvellosity wrote:
Ok. btw people can semi-ignore me until tomorrow when I'm more sober, but my current thought is this:

vayne is probably town because he's constantly answered me in a pretty consistent manner. this isn't a certain read, but meh, maybe we should be looking somewhere else today. he seems to be saying some really weird shit that he genuinely believes in without being scared of it. yes?


I am ashamed to say I now have a townread on VA. I want ot lynch him so bad though.
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